Repost of the Ukrainian Volunteer Corps in Syria Thread

[Blekksprutia]

Cool. I guess?

No, not cool at all. Seriously, Ukraine? Lord.

[Dilange]

Cool. I guess?

No, not cool at all. Seriously, Ukraine? Lord.

Ukraine is basically Russia in the modern IR world.

[Blekksprutia]

No, not cool at all. Seriously, Ukraine? Lord.

Ukraine is basically Russia in the modern IR world.

Yeah, but my family in Ukraine would be detained in Syria for being Jewish. That's why I was so scandalized/ashamed at this. I know that it must be mercenary.

[Disserbia]

Ukraine is basically Russia in the modern IR world.

Yeah, but my family in Ukraine would be detained in Syria for being Jewish. That's why I was so scandalized/ashamed at this. I know that it must be mercenary.

What the fuck has that got to do with anything, I mean...what?

[Shofercia]

Considering how Russia was born as a half-Slavic, half-Viking country, well...

And half mongol too Eurasian... as they say. .

Did you miss Ris' reference to the timeline? Don't get me wrong, I'm proud to be part Mongol, but let's not pretend here that Mongols had any influence on Russia prior to the thirteenth century.

Soldier of Fortune, mercenary, contract killer, whatever man, all comes down to the same thing, a warrior for hire. And of course they come from everywhere, Arabs like the Eastern European ones though.

And I know how WW1 started, but the reason Russia allied itself with Serbia, was because it was another Eastern Orthodox nation.

The Russo-Austrian Relationship was declining since the 1850s. Russia wasn't going to side with Austria, simple as that. On the other hand, Serbia was generally on the side of Russia, and Russia's Foreign Policy is usually based on reciprocity. Being Orthodox certainly helped, but it wasn't the only reason.

[Brocwika]

No, not cool at all. Seriously, Ukraine? Lord.

Ukraine is basically Russia in the modern IR world.

Nah, it's a just a more eastern, radioactive Poland, with less catholics.

[Rio Cana]

Ukraine is basically Russia in the modern IR world.

Nah, it's a just a more eastern, radioactive Poland, with less catholics.

It turns out that Belarus to the North got more contamination then Ukraine. Around 23% of Belarus is contaminated. The Ukrainian based nuclear power plant was near there southern border. Could explain why Belarus is building there own nuclear plant near there Northern border with Lithuania. Found out Kaliningrad is doing the same but on there eastern border with Lithuania.

[Shofercia]

Nah, it's a just a more eastern, radioactive Poland, with less catholics.

It turns out that Belarus to the North got more contamination then Ukraine. Around 23% of Belarus is contaminated. The Ukrainian based nuclear power plant was near there southern border. Could explain why Belarus is building there own nuclear plant near there Northern border with Lithuania. Found out Kaliningrad is doing the same but on there eastern border with Lithuania.

Was contaminated. It's not contaminated anymore. Fuck those idiots who decided to try out running nuclear reactors at 110% of capacity, and then try to cover it up.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Why does the ukranians care about syria exactly?

[Mike the Progressive]

I posted on the other thread. But it just shows how fucked up the whole Syrian situation is.

Anyone advocating intervention in that vortex needs psychiatric help.

But Western imperialism... and... and... Russia supporting the people loving Assad regime!

[Mike the Progressive]

Why does the ukranians care about syria exactly?

They, like the Russians, are just great humanitarians.

[Shofercia]

Why does the ukranians care about syria exactly?

From the OP:

Referring to poor living conditions of veterans in the country, namely “the lack of housing”, the former officer says that due to this situation, veterans can offer their skills to Syria in it’s efforts to restore constitutional order.

Recognising the fact that Syrian law does not allow foreigners to join the national armed forces, Razumovsky said Syria could give citizenship status to the volunteers, provide insurance to the volunteer’s families to help with the purchase of property after the war.

[Byzantium Imperial]

Why does the ukranians care about syria exactly?

They, like the Russians, are just great humanitarians.

But of coarse! And hezbollah too!

[Shofercia]

I posted on the other thread. But it just shows how fucked up the whole Syrian situation is.

Anyone advocating intervention in that vortex needs psychiatric help.

But Western imperialism... and... and... Russia supporting the people loving Assad regime!

Still doesn't justify interventionism. These are volunteers going. The Russian Taxpayers, and/or Ukrainian Taxpayers, aren't paying for the intervention. It won't mean that Russia will get bogged down in the Middle East. Etc, etc, etc.

[Shofercia]

They, like the Russians, are just great humanitarians.

But of coarse! And hezbollah too!

And the strawmen are also great humanitarians!

[Mike the Progressive]

But Western imperialism... and... and... Russia supporting the people loving Assad regime!

Still doesn't justify interventionism. These are volunteers going. The Russian Taxpayers, and/or Ukrainian Taxpayers, aren't paying for the intervention. It won't mean that Russia will get bogged down in the Middle East. Etc, etc, etc.

I don't disagree, I think it's rather pitiful though that people are critiquing the US and Europe for daring to think about intervention, whether it be troops on the ground or sending weapons, as the Russians are sending arms to Assad and only worsening the situation even more.

[Mike the Progressive]

But of coarse! And hezbollah too!

And the strawmen are also great humanitarians!

Sweet Lady Truth is quite the bitch.

[Volnotova]

Russian and Ukranian volunteers.

AKA "mercenaries"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18321748

Middle Eastern dictators have a habit of calling on the help of Eastern European contracted killers.

Libya is in the Middle East now?

[Shofercia]

Still doesn't justify interventionism. These are volunteers going. The Russian Taxpayers, and/or Ukrainian Taxpayers, aren't paying for the intervention. It won't mean that Russia will get bogged down in the Middle East. Etc, etc, etc.

I don't disagree, I think it's rather pitiful though that people are critiquing the US and Europe for daring to think about intervention, whether it be troops on the ground or sending weapons, as the Russians are sending arms to Assad and only worsening the situation even more.

You can think whatever you want. But when thoughts turn into posts, I get to criticize them. Additionally, the Russian Taxpayers aren't paying for the weapons. Whereas, I'm still waiting for the Iraqi War to pay for itself, as was promised, and I doubt that I'll ever get that taxpayer money back.

[Shofercia]

And the strawmen are also great humanitarians!

Sweet Lady Truth is quite the bitch.

I'm sorry, was anyone actually arguing that Russians or Ukrainians are Great Humanitarians, or that Hezbollah is in the fight for Civil and Social Rights?

[New Octopucta]

It's a shame that Ukraine takes such shameful care of its veterans that they are willing to offer their services to a dictator in order to get a decent life, but I can't really fault the vets for trying to feed their families.

[Prizea]

Still doesn't justify interventionism. These are volunteers going. The Russian Taxpayers, and/or Ukrainian Taxpayers, aren't paying for the intervention. It won't mean that Russia will get bogged down in the Middle East. Etc, etc, etc.

I don't disagree, I think it's rather pitiful though that people are critiquing the US and Europe for daring to think about intervention, whether it be troops on the ground or sending weapons, as the Russians are sending arms to Assad and only worsening the situation even more.

The trouble with the US intervening is that they often mess it up. It could very easily end up as a new Afghanistan, with US weapons being provided as a counter to the Russians and later being used to fight the US as well.

I think the EU countries should intervene though, in particular France.

[Mike the Progressive]

I don't disagree, I think it's rather pitiful though that people are critiquing the US and Europe for daring to think about intervention, whether it be troops on the ground or sending weapons, as the Russians are sending arms to Assad and only worsening the situation even more.

You can think whatever you want. But when thoughts turn into posts, I get to criticize them. Additionally, the Russian Taxpayers aren't paying for the weapons. Whereas, I'm still waiting for the Iraqi War to pay for itself, as was promised, and I doubt that I'll ever get that taxpayer money back.

Hmm. Interesting, I didn't realize by critiquing Russia's selling of weapons to Assad, thereby worsening the situation, that I've suddenly embraced western interventionism and the Iraq War. One mistake doesn't justify another. It has nothing to do with money, it's about doing the decent and right thing. Profitting from a bunch of Syrians brutally butchering each other can hardly be justified.

[Mike the Progressive]

I don't disagree, I think it's rather pitiful though that people are critiquing the US and Europe for daring to think about intervention, whether it be troops on the ground or sending weapons, as the Russians are sending arms to Assad and only worsening the situation even more.

The trouble with the US intervening is that they often mess it up. It could very easily end up as a new Afghanistan, with US weapons being provided as a counter to the Russians and later being used to fight the US as well.

I think the EU countries should intervene though, in particular France.

I don't recall saying the US or the EU should intervene...I just don't think the Russians should be selling Assad weapons.

[Prizea]

Russian and Ukranian volunteers.

AKA "mercenaries"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18321748

Middle Eastern dictators have a habit of calling on the help of Eastern European contracted killers.

Libya is in the Middle East now?

He is having a rant. You can't let simple facts such as geography get in the way of a good rant.