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Japanese PM Ozawa: Christianity is 'self-righteous'

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:45 pm
by Daistallia 2104
DPJ's Ozawa calls Christianity 'self-righteous'

Wednesday 11th November, 06:17 AM JST

TOKYO —

Democratic Party of Japan Secretary General Ichiro Ozawa said Tuesday that Christianity is an ‘‘exclusive and self-righteous religion’’ after meeting with a Buddhist group leader. ‘‘European and U.S. societies with a historical background of Christianity are bogged down,’’ the ruling party’s No. 2 leader told reporters after meeting Yukei Matsunaga, president of the Japan Buddhist Federation, in Wakayama Prefecture.

On Islam, Ozawa said, ‘‘It is better than Christianity but it is also exclusive.’’ But Ozawa praised Buddhism, saying, ‘‘It teaches us a state of mind and way of life from the start about how human beings should be.’’ He added that the cause of the current social turmoil in Japan is that Japanese people are losing their original spiritual values.

‘‘Politicians cannot conduct politics if they are not prepared to work as both a human being and Japanese,’’ Ozawa said.

On the Liberal Democratic Party which became an opposition party following a general election in August, Ozawa said, ‘‘It is originally a typically Japanese party, but it lost that virtue. That is the biggest reason why it lost people’s support.’’

http://www.japantoday.com/category/poli ... -righteous

The last PM was famous for foot in mouth disease. This is just :palm:.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:46 pm
by The Norse Hordes
:eyebrow:


Oh I like this.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:48 pm
by Hydesland
If he insists on quantifying religions, I find it a bit bizarre that he would consider Islam better than Christianity.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:49 pm
by Tunizcha
Well, they are primarily Shinto and Zen Buddhists.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:49 pm
by Non Aligned States
Daistallia 2104 wrote:The last PM was famous for foot in mouth disease. This is just :palm:.


Sounds like the Japanese nationalist version of "The evil *insert foreign influence here* are stealing our jobs and eroding our culture" rant.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:50 pm
by Lunatic Goofballs
Hydesland wrote:If he insists on quantifying religions, I find it a bit bizarre that he would consider Islam better than Christianity.


That's what you find bizarre? :blink:

I find it a bit bizarre to quantify religions. :p

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:53 pm
by The Norse Hordes
Im just hoping the West just ignores him.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:58 pm
by Daistallia 2104
Tunizcha wrote:Well, they are primarily Shinto and Zen Buddhists.


Zen is not the primary Buddhist school in Japan, but rather Jodo/Jodo Shinshu, sub-schools of Pure Land Buddhism.

Non Aligned States wrote:Sounds like the Japanese nationalist version of "The evil *insert foreign influence here* are stealing our jobs and eroding our culture" rant.


It's a bit more of the "We Japanese..." Nihonjinron.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:02 pm
by Gauthier
And while it doesn't excuse his comments one bit, keep in mind he is Prime Minister of a country that had been overrun by Portuguese Jesuits a looong time ago.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:07 pm
by Arumdaum
I like buddhism better

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:47 pm
by Maurepas
Arumdaum wrote:I like buddhism better

eh, I think they're all nuts...

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:53 pm
by Allbeama
Arumdaum wrote:I like buddhism better

Then why do you have the yin yang symbol in your flag? That is taoist.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:53 pm
by Katganistan
I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:55 pm
by Goath
This fellow isn't the PM of Japan- Yukio Hatoyama is the PM.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:01 pm
by Maurepas
Katganistan wrote:I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

Depends on what part of the World youre in...Im pretty sure its the 14th in Iran, for example...

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:04 pm
by Tunizcha
Maurepas wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

Depends on what part of the World youre in...Im pretty sure its the 14th in Iran, for example...


And in Antarctica, I'm pretty sure it's some weird fusion of 21st century measuring technology, 20th century radio technology, and land, all covered in ice.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:06 pm
by Maurepas
Tunizcha wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

Depends on what part of the World youre in...Im pretty sure its the 14th in Iran, for example...


And in Antarctica, I'm pretty sure it's some weird fusion of 21st century measuring technology, 20th century radio technology, and land, all covered in ice.

I blame the Communists, :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:09 pm
by Daistallia 2104
Goath wrote:This fellow isn't the PM of Japan- Yukio Hatoyama is the PM.


I know, I know. I just realised what I said and am kicking myself. :palm:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:09 pm
by Medicus-Corp
Maurepas wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

Depends on what part of the World youre in...Im pretty sure its the 14th in Iran, for example...


And in Antarctica, I'm pretty sure it's some weird fusion of 21st century measuring technology, 20th century radio technology, and land, all covered in ice.

I blame the Communists, :lol:


The Communists are to blame for EVERYTHING!

That cook put onions on your burger when you didn't want any? Communists!
That picture fall off the wall? Communists!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:13 pm
by Daistallia 2104
Gauthier wrote:And while it doesn't excuse his comments one bit, keep in mind he is Prime Minister of a country that had been overrun by Portuguese Jesuits a looong time ago.


Not hardly. Tokugawa made sure that never happened.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:17 pm
by Katganistan
Medicus-Corp wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

Depends on what part of the World youre in...Im pretty sure its the 14th in Iran, for example...


And in Antarctica, I'm pretty sure it's some weird fusion of 21st century measuring technology, 20th century radio technology, and land, all covered in ice.

I blame the Communists, :lol:


The Communists are to blame for EVERYTHING!

That cook put onions on your burger when you didn't want any? Communists!
That picture fall off the wall? Communists!

Communists? No way.
BLAME CANADA!

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:19 pm
by Muravyets
Well, if his main experience of Christianity is with missionaries looking for converts, I can understand his opinion. I don't like missionaries, either.

But that said, I can't help wondering:

Who the fuck asked him?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:34 pm
by NERVUN
Daistallia 2104 wrote:
Goath wrote:This fellow isn't the PM of Japan- Yukio Hatoyama is the PM.


I know, I know. I just realised what I said and am kicking myself. :palm:

Dai... I'm sorry, but... all I can really say to this is... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:36 pm
by NERVUN
Katganistan wrote:I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

I tend to feel very sorry for the missionaries in Japan. They run smack into Japan's famous hospitality, inability to be rude to guests, obession with free English lessons, and casual indifference to religion, which usually results in said missionary getting invited in, a cup of tea, politly listened to for an hour or so, and then turned down flat. :p

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:37 pm
by NERVUN
Katganistan wrote:
Medicus-Corp wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Tunizcha wrote:
Maurepas wrote:
Katganistan wrote:I know of people who have gone on missionary work to Japan, and all I can usually say is, "Really?" I mean, really? a society and culture with strong values and you want to go there and impose an alien culture?

What century is this again?

Depends on what part of the World youre in...Im pretty sure its the 14th in Iran, for example...


And in Antarctica, I'm pretty sure it's some weird fusion of 21st century measuring technology, 20th century radio technology, and land, all covered in ice.

I blame the Communists, :lol:


The Communists are to blame for EVERYTHING!

That cook put onions on your burger when you didn't want any? Communists!
That picture fall off the wall? Communists!

Communists? No way.
BLAME CANADA!

I thought we were blaming you right now. ;)