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Legalization of Same-Sex Marriage in Illinois

Definitely A Good Thing
367
73%
Probably A Good Thing
18
4%
Neither A Good Nor Bad Thing
16
3%
Probably A Bad Thing
9
2%
Definitely A Bad Thing
84
17%
Other
9
2%
 
Total votes : 503

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Postby Duvniask » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:13 pm

FlorinGuilder wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I am personally disgusted by the thought of same-sex marriage opponents being allowed in any states, especially one that is so close to mine (any). As a human, I strongly oppose this, and hope that we eject them into space.


That is clearly a liberal position. No morals.


Not being a bigot =/= no morals.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:13 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:This is why it is superior. Those who cannot engage in vaginal intercourse should not be recognized as married.


Source?

His personal preference.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:14 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:If marriage is about the benefits, why are domestic partnerships with the same benefits not acceptable?

Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.
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GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
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GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:14 pm

Johto and Kanto wrote:It bothers me that instead of respecting each others opinions, we would prefer to be rude to those who don't support gay marriage in Illinois. What was this thread called? Surely not 'be rude to people with other opinions. I just want to say that I am a heterosexual and believe that everyone deserves their own opinion.


Opinions are not inherently worthy of respect.
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Postby Neo Art » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:14 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.


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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 pm

FlorinGuilder wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I am personally disgusted by the thought of same-sex marriage opponents being allowed in any states, especially one that is so close to mine (any). As a human, I strongly oppose this, and hope that we eject them into space.


That is clearly a liberal position. No morals.

That is clearly a retarded position. No sense.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.

Right, so you're a supremacist? You're like, the Grand Wizard of the VVV?

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Postby Duvniask » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.


:rofl:

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Postby Old Sarthal » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.


Aha! I see. You believe if we legalize same-sex marriage, humans will die out, because no one will have children. Am I correct?
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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Christian Democrats wrote: They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

Let me try this.

Vaginal intercourse is inferior because it continues the human species, the greatest threat to biodiversity today. Therefore, in the grand scheme of things, vaginal intercourse is undesirable. Prove me wrong.
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Postby Johto and Kanto » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Johto and Kanto wrote:It bothers me that instead of respecting each others opinions, we would prefer to be rude to those who don't support gay marriage in Illinois. What was this thread called? Surely not 'be rude to people with other opinions. I just want to say that I am a heterosexual and believe that everyone deserves their own opinion.


Opinions are not inherently worthy of respect.

Why are they not? I notice that although Christian Democrats IS a bit annoying, you should accept the people who simply state their opinion
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Postby Manahakatouki » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Neo Art wrote:
Aren't we all hoity toity with our big fancy words from books.

I was gonna go with fuckin'

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Yes, people marry so that they can express their deep romantic love for one another through the marital act. People marry to engage in sexual intercourse and to live the remainder of their lives with that partner. Sexual intercourse leads to procreation.

"By its very nature the institution of marriage and married love is ordered to the procreation and education of the offspring and it is in them that it finds its crowning glory."

People who cannot engage in these procreative acts cannot be married. Sexual intercourse -- that is, vaginal intercourse -- exceeds all other forms of sexual activity because it is the only sort of sexual act that can result in children.

This is why same-sex partners cannot be married. They engage in inferior forms of sexual activity, acts that never result in procreation. Vaginal intercourse, the only form of procreative sexual activity, deserves special recognition in our society; and this is why only a man and a woman should be recognized as married. Only they have vaginal intercourse; only their sex can produce children.


Throughout reading your argument, I knew you were just hoping for this...

But that's just silly, as "vaginal intercourse exceeds all other forms of sexual activity"? Pardon my french, but bullshit, honestly...
And so it was, that I had never changed.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Saruhan wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:YOU FUCKING PIG. GOD YOU DISGUST ME.

HOW CAN YOU MENTION THIS HORRIBLE ACT?!

OH GOD I'M PUKING.

Damnit



I forgot to capitalise that one "of"

God man, how can you fail the team like that? Seriously? We ask you to bump it up, and you just LAUNCH it into the fourth row.

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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:Without vaginal intercourse, the human species would not exist.

This is why it is superior. Those who cannot engage in vaginal intercourse should not be recognized as married.

You're right, we would have ceased to exist long ago if it weren't for vaginal intercourse. Except now that there are other ways of impregnating women and reproducing, there's no need to keep it.

Children deserve to be the products of acts of love. No child should be produced in a petri dish.
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:16 pm

Johto and Kanto wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Opinions are not inherently worthy of respect.

Why are they not? I notice that although Christian Democrats IS a bit annoying, you should accept the people who simply state their opinion

Why are they? Why should someone's views on something be automatically respected?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:17 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.

You are basing your "argument" entirely on your opinion. You then assume that we respect or fear you enough to adopt your opinion as our own. You have not backed up this argument with anything except sound bytes that wouldn't be out of place in Germany during the late 30s.
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Postby Frisivisia » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:17 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.

Two words:

In vitro.
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Postby Saruhan » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:17 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Because separate but equal got ruled unconstitutional.

They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.

Ah yeah. Perhaps with should also encourage these sorts things, if they're so "pure"
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:18 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:You're right, we would have ceased to exist long ago if it weren't for vaginal intercourse. Except now that there are other ways of impregnating women and reproducing, there's no need to keep it.

Children deserve to be the products of acts of love. No child should be produced in a petri dish.

Children don't deserve to be born to a mother who's sperm-donor left because she was an easy lay.

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Postby Duvniask » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:18 pm

Johto and Kanto wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Opinions are not inherently worthy of respect.

Why are they not? I notice that although Christian Democrats IS a bit annoying, you should accept the people who simply state their opinion


Respect should be earned, not just given for no reason.

Many nazis "just" state their opinion.
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Postby Johto and Kanto » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:18 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:They are not equal. Opposite-sex relationships are superior. They alone involve vaginal intercourse, which is the only kind of sexual activity that can lead to the creation of children, something that is necessary if our society is going to continue into the future.

One relationship is superior; one relationship is inferior.

All individuals are equal, but not all relationships are equal.

You are basing your "argument" entirely on your opinion. You then assume that we respect or fear you enough to adopt your opinion as our own. You have not backed up this argument with anything except sound bytes that wouldn't be out of place in Germany during the late 30s.

Ah, genius, comparing not allowing same-sex marriage to nazis.
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Postby Saruhan » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:19 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:You're right, we would have ceased to exist long ago if it weren't for vaginal intercourse. Except now that there are other ways of impregnating women and reproducing, there's no need to keep it.

Children deserve to be the products of acts of love. No child should be produced in a petri dish.

The fact that WE FUCKING BECAME GOD AND FLIPPED THE BIRD OFF TO NATURE IN THE PROCESS isn't loving at all?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:19 pm

Johto and Kanto wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:You are basing your "argument" entirely on your opinion. You then assume that we respect or fear you enough to adopt your opinion as our own. You have not backed up this argument with anything except sound bytes that wouldn't be out of place in Germany during the late 30s.

Ah, genius, comparing not allowing same-sex marriage to nazis.

Can you think of another regime famous for attempts at eugenics that was implemented on a global scale?

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Postby Sdaeriji » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:19 pm

Johto and Kanto wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Opinions are not inherently worthy of respect.

Why are they not? I notice that although Christian Democrats IS a bit annoying, you should accept the people who simply state their opinion


Why should I accept the people who simply state their opinion?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:19 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:You're right, we would have ceased to exist long ago if it weren't for vaginal intercourse. Except now that there are other ways of impregnating women and reproducing, there's no need to keep it.

Children deserve to be the products of acts of love. No child should be produced in a petri dish.

So you're now saying that homosexuals are incapable of love.
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