Question about White Supremacists

[Myrensis]

But that accomplishes nothing. It is irrational to think that being relatively better off than another makes you better off in absolute terms. In addition, it's counter-productive. These people would actually be better off if they worked with marginalized groups instead of fighting against them. Why be so needlessly self-destructive? It doesn't make any rational sense.

You're telling me, that there are people out there, human beings, who think and behave irrationally? I am both shocked and intrigued by this concept, and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Srboslavija]

Did you really take that from my comment? Really?

I'm terribly sorry. Some of your previous statements on this forum honestly did make me question whether that comment was meant to describe the rational statement that racism still exists in disturbingly influential places, or the rather absurd notion that these successful individuals indicate that these views are ones that rational, intelligent individuals can hold. I am terribly sorry for having developed such a low opinion of you through inaccurate beliefs. I should not have presumed something that wasn't clearly stated and should have never posted such a comment in return.

I accept your apology and hope that you will no longer profile other forumites based on a small number of posts. My point indeed was that a person does not need a klan's hat or face tatts to be a racial bigot, and the ones that we can't easily identify are the ones that do real harm.

[Forsher]

The clever ones are so cleverly. That is, they don't tell anyone and just get on with white supremacism. The reason being that openly being a white supremacist isn't good for white supremacy.

[Risottia]

Stupid people usually argue for stupid things.

/thread.

[Cabra West]

The clever ones are so cleverly. That is, they don't tell anyone and just get on with white supremacism. The reason being that openly being a white supremacist isn't good for white supremacy.

I suspect the above actually plays a very large role.
Think about it for a moment - no matter what the topic or the issue, you always hear those people the loudest who seem to be the least educated/clever/smart/whatever.
People with brains might hold the same ideas, but they know better than to shout about them on the street or to let dubious TV stations use them as flamebait in sensationalistic broadcasts.

[Ashmoria]

Perhaps this is simply anecdotal evidence, but why is it that most white supremacists, Neo-Nazis, and advocates of aggressive eugenics tend to be rather pitiful specimens? Why are the advocates of white superiority usually the least educated, least fit, dumbest examples of white people one can find? How come I never see actual examples of really excellent and superior people advocating for white supremacy? Why is it always people who really have absolutely no reason to be proud of themselves whatsoever who tend to advocate for racist ideologies? It would seem that their own inferiority would be a reductio ad absurdum against their own claims.

i have some theories for you to think over:

1) where do you see these white supremacists? the only place *I* see them is on tv. tv trends towards freaks. seeing only freakish losers on tv doesnt mean that the group as a whole is made up of freakish losers.

2) full time public white supremacists dont have better things to do, eh? that means they have to come from a certain strata of society.

3) well-to-do people who care about their position in society or in business dont advertise their unpopular poltical positions. they may well be as racist as one of those guys from rural idaho living in white supremacist enclaves but they arent going to make themselves pariahs by acting out.

4) the big boys pay the little boys to be the activists who place bombs in MLKjr day parades. you will never learn about the big boys. they are rich enough to cover their tracks

5) people take pride in what they can take pride in. if you dont have a good job, if you dont have any talents, if you dont think you have prospects to ever have anything else to be proud of, you can always be proud of your race.

[CTALNH]

Stupid people usually argue for stupid things.

Shit my country is full of stupid people.....

[L Ron Cupboard]

I used to go to anti-BNP protest and for most part they were hideously ugly and not particularly bright, definitely from the shallow end of the gene pool. I am cynical that the smarter ones, who tend to be in charge, necessarily believe what the claim to believe - I suspect some of them might just like having a group of followers.

[Ifreann]

Stupid people usually argue for stupid things.

Coincidence? Or elaborate NWO conspiracy?

[The Joseon Dynasty]

I used to go to anti-BNP protest and for most part they were hideously ugly and not particularly bright, definitely from the shallow end of the gene pool. I am cynical that the smarter ones, who tend to be in charge, necessarily believe what the claim to believe - I suspect some of them might just like having a group of followers.

Pretty sure BNP protests are just an excuse to get pissed, though.

[Cetacea]

I used to go to anti-BNP protest and for most part they were hideously ugly and not particularly bright, definitely from the shallow end of the gene pool. I am cynical that the smarter ones, who tend to be in charge, necessarily believe what the claim to believe - I suspect some of them might just like having a group of followers.

Pretty sure BNP protests are just an excuse to get pissed, though.

Everything the British do is an excuse to get pissed

[Mushet]

Well since many of them think their greatest accomplishment was being born white it follows that they don't have any real accomplishments to speak of

[Ralkovia]

Perhaps this is simply anecdotal evidence, but why is it that most white supremacists, Neo-Nazis, and advocates of aggressive eugenics tend to be rather pitiful specimens? Why are the advocates of white superiority usually the least educated, least fit, dumbest examples of white people one can find? How come I never see actual examples of really excellent and superior people advocating for white supremacy? Why is it always people who really have absolutely no reason to be proud of themselves whatsoever who tend to advocate for racist ideologies? It would seem that their own inferiority would be a reductio ad absurdum against their own claims.

White supremacism based on skin color is a retarded idea, relegated to the trash bin of history. First of all, it makes little if any sense. By any standard, the 'white supremacist' would be outclassed by the Jewish Ashkenazi, who has on average a higher IQ than a regular white person. Meaning that even if white supremacy had some merit, it would still be second class to another ethnic group.

So then, what is 'right' white supremacy. Well, white culture is very much the 'best culture.' If one could put a label on it. White culture, or rather Western Culture, is by far the most advanced and willingly accepts and tolerates everyone else. White culture is a culture that places heavy emphasis on education and on human right's, and is very much relatable to far eastern ideologies of confucianism, etc.

White culture has produced the very best conditions of humanity. Along with Far Eastern ideologies, which are prized on adaptability and honor, Western Culture is something that one can claim is superior to it's African, Latin American, Middle Eastern, and Northern Asian neighbors.

However, Western Culture =/= White Culture.

In fact, Western Culture is distinctively a mix of the best of other cultures and throws away regressive elements like intolerance or makes effort to subdue it. White culture on the other hand has it's own set of distinct problems as white culture is a cover term for Australian, North American, and European cultures.

White culture only makes a distinction between Western Cultures such as the "Ghetto Culture" predominantly black and hispanic, and "Suburban Culture, predominantly white.

Funny enough, the Suburbanite, the distinctively 'best white culture', isn't where the Neo-Nazis and KKK come from. Most of the KKK defend the rural culture and Neo-Nazi's defend a germanic culture that based genetic perfection as coming from ancient nords, however Germanic culture is indeed rift with slavic and non-aryan pieces.

If anything, White Supremacism, isn't so much believing your skin color is best, but hating everyone else's skin color and genetics. If there was actually any science involved, you would find yourself confronted with Ashkenazi Jews and a few other ethnic groups as having the best intelligence.

[4years]

Perhaps this is simply anecdotal evidence, but why is it that most white supremacists, Neo-Nazis, and advocates of aggressive eugenics tend to be rather pitiful specimens? Why are the advocates of white superiority usually the least educated, least fit, dumbest examples of white people one can find? How come I never see actual examples of really excellent and superior people advocating for white supremacy? Why is it always people who really have absolutely no reason to be proud of themselves whatsoever who tend to advocate for racist ideologies? It would seem that their own inferiority would be a reductio ad absurdum against their own claims.

Underlined is what allows someone to become a racist.