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Do you believe in the Theory of Evolution?

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Postby Multiflow » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:39 pm

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Postby Tlaceceyaya » Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:42 pm

Okhotsk wrote:Although there is much evidence pointing to the Theory of Evolution, the overall theory has many illogical gaps. I am not just another idiot ranting, I have been researching the theory for over a year. Very few people know more than little about the theory, and there are still many who believe the theory states humans evolved from Apes. In general, there are two people who rant about the theory of evolution:

A. Atheist, "scientific" morons who insist Evolution is real, despite knowing next to nothing about the theory, and only are pro-evolution because deep-down, (or maybe not so deep) they just despise religion.

B. Idiot, Rick Santorum-like, anti-everything that isn't white protestant and male Fundamentalists, (yea, that's what Jesus would have wanted) who... well, I think you know what I am talking about.

C. The very few logical people who believe or don't believe in the theory, and bring logical evidence.

Whether or whether evolution if for real is a long continuous argument that will never be resolved until in a couple hundred years or so the theory dies, and a new theory arises. Personally, Evolutionary theory is one of the few things that if one part is true, all of it is not necessarily true, and vice versa. Don't start a flame war over this comment, I don't care what anyones say about me anyway.

Oh my walrus! You've been researching evolution for more than a year! You're clearly the foremost expert regarding evolution. Richard Dawkins? Nah, he's just some guy who wrote a bunch of books on it and did research. Richard Lenski? His E. Coli experiments were... uhh... fabricated. Yeah. That's it.
Oh, and the thousands (Tens of thousands?) of other scientists, they're also just nobodies and phonies. We'll trust you.

Actually, you should probably show your 'evidence' that evolution is illogical. You know, rather than just assert it and insult people who accept the fact of evolution.
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Postby The USOT » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:00 pm

Tlaceceyaya wrote:
Okhotsk wrote:Although there is much evidence pointing to the Theory of Evolution, the overall theory has many illogical gaps. I am not just another idiot ranting, I have been researching the theory for over a year. Very few people know more than little about the theory, and there are still many who believe the theory states humans evolved from Apes. In general, there are two people who rant about the theory of evolution:

A. Atheist, "scientific" morons who insist Evolution is real, despite knowing next to nothing about the theory, and only are pro-evolution because deep-down, (or maybe not so deep) they just despise religion.

B. Idiot, Rick Santorum-like, anti-everything that isn't white protestant and male Fundamentalists, (yea, that's what Jesus would have wanted) who... well, I think you know what I am talking about.

C. The very few logical people who believe or don't believe in the theory, and bring logical evidence.

Whether or whether evolution if for real is a long continuous argument that will never be resolved until in a couple hundred years or so the theory dies, and a new theory arises. Personally, Evolutionary theory is one of the few things that if one part is true, all of it is not necessarily true, and vice versa. Don't start a flame war over this comment, I don't care what anyones say about me anyway.

Oh my walrus! You've been researching evolution for more than a year! You're clearly the foremost expert regarding evolution. Richard Dawkins? Nah, he's just some guy who wrote a bunch of books on it and did research. Richard Lenski? His E. Coli experiments were... uhh... fabricated. Yeah. That's it.
Oh, and the thousands (Tens of thousands?) of other scientists, they're also just nobodies and phonies. We'll trust you.

Actually, you should probably show your 'evidence' that evolution is illogical. You know, rather than just assert it and insult people who accept the fact of evolution.

Its always funny when somebody has been researching something for a year and then think they understand it enough to claim it is stupid to argue in favour of it. By his own standards I am far more qualified than himself to comment on it having been researching evolution for 8-9 years now and I am by no means a scientist :p
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Postby Fintanland » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:14 pm

Okhotsk wrote: Whether or whether evolution if for real is a long continuous argument that will never be resolved until in a couple hundred years or so the theory dies, and a new theory arises. Personally, Evolutionary theory is one of the few things that if one part is true, all of it is not necessarily true, and vice versa. Don't start a flame war over this comment, I don't care what anyones say about me anyway.

Over a year? Wow, you are clearly the foremost expert on the topic, to declare one of the best-supported theories in the biological sciences "controversial".
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:19 pm

Although there is much evidence pointing to the Theory of Evolution, the overall theory has many illogical gaps.


No it doesn't.

I am not just another idiot ranting, I have been researching the theory for over a year.


I find myself unable to answer the first part of this setence whilst remaining within the rules. Feel free to use your imagination. I would also cast significant doubt on the quality of your research.

ery few people know more than little about the theory, and there are still many who believe the theory states humans evolved from Apes.


If by "apes, you mean "modern apes", then I know of very few people (all of them creationist) who think that. If you mean "members of the order primates", then that is exactly correct.

C. The very few logical people who believe or don't believe in the theory, and bring logical evidence.


Welcome to NSG. We have the third category in the vast majority. The people with standout knowledge of evolution around here are actual biologists, which tends to drag the averages up a bit.

Whether or whether evolution if for real is a long continuous argument that will never be resolved until in a couple hundred years or so the theory dies, and a new theory arises.


No it isn't. It's an argument that was settled years ago, when we observed it.

Personally, Evolutionary theory is one of the few things that if one part is true, all of it is not necessarily true, and vice versa. Don't start a flame war over this comment, I don't care what anyones say about me anyway.


No, it's all true. Kindly provide evidence to the contrary.
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Postby Seriong » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:43 pm

The De Danann Nation wrote:Do you believe in the theory of evolution?I personally feel it's become more than a theory and is solid scientific fact



You are as bad as the people who say it is "Just a theory", you have no idea what a theory is in science.
In science, a theory is a "fact" (In the colloquial sense) with a lot of evidence for it, about how the world works.
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Postby Frisivisia » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:44 pm

I don't believe it, I know it. To believe something is to accept it without evidence.
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Postby Sociobiology » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:14 pm

Okhotsk wrote:Although there is much evidence pointing to the Theory of Evolution, the overall theory has many illogical gaps. I am not just another idiot ranting, I have been researching the theory for over a year. Very few people know more than little about the theory, and there are still many who believe the theory states humans evolved from Apes. In general, there are two people who rant about the theory of evolution:

A. Atheist, "scientific" morons who insist Evolution is real, despite knowing next to nothing about the theory, and only are pro-evolution because deep-down, (or maybe not so deep) they just despise religion.

B. Idiot, Rick Santorum-like, anti-everything that isn't white protestant and male Fundamentalists, (yea, that's what Jesus would have wanted) who... well, I think you know what I am talking about.

C. The very few logical people who believe or don't believe in the theory, and bring logical evidence.

Whether or whether evolution if for real is a long continuous argument that will never be resolved until in a couple hundred years or so the theory dies, and a new theory arises. Personally, Evolutionary theory is one of the few things that if one part is true, all of it is not necessarily true, and vice versa. Don't start a flame war over this comment, I don't care what anyones say about me anyway.


I suggest you look up the Dunning–Kruger effect before you assert your proposed expertise.
some of use have been studying it for decades, formally in many cases.

also humans did evolve form Apes, and Hominids, and Mammals, and Eukaryotes, and ect.
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Postby Sociobiology » Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:18 pm

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Illestia wrote:Not sure if i missed something or if its irony but alright, lets go for something else: How about heredity? Gregor Mendel ring any bells (for example)

no it doesn't. does this differ from evolution in some significant way?

mendel's work on heredity was the first proof of the mechanism. A mechanism having to exist, based on the evidence, was demonstrated by Darwin and those before him. If anything Mendel added more evidence to evolution.
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Postby Tsuntion » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:52 am

Okhotsk wrote:Although there is much evidence pointing to the Theory of Evolution, the overall theory has many illogical gaps.


Name them. Just three will do. In fact, going out on a limb here, I challenge you to find a single illogical gap in the theory of evolution by natural selection.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:06 pm

Creationists, have you ever eaten a banana?
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:08 pm

Tsuntion wrote:
Okhotsk wrote:Although there is much evidence pointing to the Theory of Evolution, the overall theory has many illogical gaps.


Name them. Just three will do. In fact, going out on a limb here, I challenge you to find a single illogical gap in the theory of evolution by natural selection.

Of course there are billions of illogical gaps, with factual errors. It is logical gaps that we are short of. :p
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Postby The UEG-Space Command » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:18 pm

This kid at my school keeps saying that he didn't evolve from monkeys, he makes me sad sometimes.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:33 pm

The UEG-Space Command wrote:This kid at my school keeps saying that he didn't evolve from monkeys, he makes me sad sometimes.

Maybe because he hasn't, he still. is :lol:
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Postby Herhangi bir » Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:35 pm

Overwhelming evidence for evolution is overwhelming.

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Postby New Zreuche » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:40 pm

It never ceases to amaze me that however much evidence we throw around, and how many times the theory is revised (and in these revisions flaws are generally resolved) there are still a minority of creationists and other groups who firmly oppose the theory. I've seen countless arguments about evolution, and the ignorance of the opposition can be astounding. A widely used argument is "Why don't we evolve?". They fail to realise it happens over millions of years, in the case of creationists due to the belief the earth is 6000 or so years old.

I could rant about this for hours.

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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:42 pm

New Zreuche wrote:It never ceases to amaze me that however much evidence we throw around, and how many times the theory is revised (and in these revisions flaws are generally resolved) there are still a minority of creationists and other groups who firmly oppose the theory. I've seen countless arguments about evolution, and the ignorance of the opposition can be astounding. A widely used argument is "Why don't we evolve?". They fail to realise it happens over millions of years, in the case of creationists due to the belief the earth is 6000 or so years old.

I could rant about this for hours.

You might want to find a more recent thread in which to rant about it. Usually when you see that a thread hasn't had a post in more than four weeks, you should consider it dead.
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