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George Washington
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12%
Benjamin Franklin
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17%
Thomas Jefferson
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22%
John Adams
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3%
Samuel Adams
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2%
James Madison
6
3%
Alexander Hamilton
17
9%
Benedict Arnold :P
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16%
Abigail Adams
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4%
Your favorite has not been mentioned. Stupid North California!
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Postby Meryuma » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:47 pm

Thomas Paine because he was a deist and a geoist and he didn't destroy any Iroquois villages or anything like that.
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Postby Socialdemokraterne » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:50 pm

Oh, alright. Alexander Hamilton.
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Postby Jinos » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:00 pm

It keeps telling me that I've voted too many times :/

Anyways, I voted for Benedict Arnold because he was a decent person who was doing fairly well for the American Rebellion but kept getting shafted by his superiors.

In his mind, he apparently betrayed the revolution because he had always considered that the rebellion was about securing equal rights for the colonies within Britain, not independence. It might have just been a total bs excuse, but I do think the man is rather disproportionately slighted.
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Postby Albicia » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:06 pm

Jefferson Davis

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Postby The Romulan Republic » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:26 am

Albicia wrote:Jefferson Davis


He was not a founding father. He was a piece of Confederate trash.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:30 am

Socialdemokraterne wrote:Oh, alright. Alexander Hamilton.

Why?
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Postby Slenisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:25 am

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Postby Socialist States Owen » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:28 am

Benedict Arnold for teh lulz.

Washington wasn't as badass as you think he was; he has had a myth/personality cult built around him to rival that of Stalin.
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:32 am

Thomas Paine, for the things he rallied against, and the fact that he wasn't hypocritical and did not own slaves unlike the other founding fathers.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:34 am

Traitors and terrorists the lot of them.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:37 am

Doctor Franklin, of course, and James Madison (I corresponded with him a little after Franklin introduced us). And Mrs. Adams, though I never knew her.
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Postby Romanitea » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:50 am

As some have already said, I'd go Thomas Paine, but he's not an option, so Jefferson.

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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:50 am

Farnhamia wrote:Doctor Franklin


I remember we had a nice food fight about what "electric fluid" should have been labelled as positive at Café Procope. Things got a bit excited after the tenth bottle of Jurançon... He won by knocking me out with a silver tray full of oysters - just because I tripped over a VERY drunk Danton who was dozing on the floor.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:52 am

Risottia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Doctor Franklin


I remember we had a nice food fight about what "electric fluid" should have been labelled as positive at Café Procope. Things got a bit excited after the tenth bottle of Jurançon... He won by knocking me out with a silver tray full of oysters - just because I tripped over a VERY drunk Danton who was dozing on the floor.

I remember him telling me about that. Good times. But how could you not see Danton lying there? He was huge.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:15 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Risottia wrote:
I remember we had a nice food fight about what "electric fluid" should have been labelled as positive at Café Procope. Things got a bit excited after the tenth bottle of Jurançon... He won by knocking me out with a silver tray full of oysters - just because I tripped over a VERY drunk Danton who was dozing on the floor.

I remember him telling me about that. Good times. But how could you not see Danton lying there? He was huge.

I never was thin, either... nor was I exactly sober. :oops:
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Postby Dyakovo » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:19 am

North California wrote:What the title says. Of all of the revolutionaries who founded America, who is your favorite and why?

Me? I'm stuck between Jefferson and Washington. Jefferson did write our Declaration of Independence, and he was a fantastic philosophers. It can be argued that many of my beliefs and the beliefs of many others are influenced by Jefferson. However, Jefferson owned slaves, and when he became he president, he be had to compromise on a few things.


Washington on the other hand, kept our nation together. He lead the colonists (with Lafayette's help) to freedom and independence. He was opposed to slavery and let his slaves go when he died. His reason for not going public with his opposition to slavery was because it would rip America apart, as it would in 1860. Basically, Washington sort of prevented the Civil War from happening in the 1780's instead of the 1860's. Washington also had good character. He stuck to his guns, and really believed in the Revolution. When given the option to become the "King of America", he declined, saying that he "Didn't fight George III to become George I". Washington also advised us against non-interventionism, and instead told us to pursue a foreign policy based on trade.

I guess, in the end, I'm going with Washington. He was a bad ass. And no, he never chopped down a cherry tree...

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Postby Ngelmish » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:58 am

Madison was easily the most accomplished of them, and rather more visionary than most of his compatriots though he was nearly inhuman. Competence is hard to argue against.

Hamilton was thoroughly amusing and well grounded in reality by and large, but he was also somewhat insubstantial.

Of course, the real champ is Aaron Burr.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:00 am

Risottia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I remember him telling me about that. Good times. But how could you not see Danton lying there? He was huge.

I never was thin, either... nor was I exactly sober. :oops:

Good point.

@Dya: You just like saying von Steuben's whole name.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:39 pm

Thomas Jefferson, on education.

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Postby Kvatchdom » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:46 pm

Thomas Jefferson, for showing the middle finger to private banks.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:48 pm

Kvatchdom wrote:Thomas Jefferson, for showing the middle finger to private banks.

You mean that quote about the money supply falling into the hands of banks? He never said it. It first turns up in an entry in the Congressional Record (or something, I haven't looked it up) in 1937.
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Postby Perrytopia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:51 pm

Mushet wrote:Hiawatha

Was he one of the creators of the Iroquois constitution?
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Postby Inoroth » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:52 pm

What about Patrick Henry?

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Postby Saurisisia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:52 pm

Definitely Thomas Jefferson.

If only the Democratic Party continued to follow his image and teachings...
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