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Postby Hesse » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:08 pm

Good for the parents in dealing with the situation.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:09 pm

That seems like a valid tactic to use to me. If he's a communist then he shouldn't mind following the ideology if he truly believes in it. Communism advocates for the elimination of private property, so whichever possessions he had should be shared in common if he were to live a communist lifestyle.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:10 pm

Avenio wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Give that man a medal.


Good idea. "Douchbag Parent of the Year", plated in 5-carat pyrite.

I assume you'll be footing the bill?


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Postby East Ormania » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:10 pm

I can't believe it.
Just because the guy is communist, does not mean that his parents need to be jerks with him.
Oh dear!
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Postby The USOT » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:11 pm

Saiwania wrote:That seems like a valid tactic to use to me. If he's a communist then he shouldn't mind following the ideology if he truly believes in it. Communism advocates for the elimination of private property, so whichever possessions he had should be shared in common if he were to live a communist lifestyle.

To quote myself
"Even if you agree with the warped idea of communism that the parent follows, do you honestly beleive that the child deserved his money to be taken, his personal property to be taken, his privacy to be entirely removed, then to use him to do all the houses chores because of THOUGHT?"
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:12 pm

Hesse wrote:Good for the parents in dealing with the situation.


"Dealing" with something isn't necessarily positive. In this case, it most definitely isn't.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:12 pm

The USOT wrote:
Saiwania wrote:That seems like a valid tactic to use to me. If he's a communist then he shouldn't mind following the ideology if he truly believes in it. Communism advocates for the elimination of private property, so whichever possessions he had should be shared in common if he were to live a communist lifestyle.

To quote myself
"Even if you agree with the warped idea of communism that the parent follows, do you honestly beleive that the child deserved his money to be taken, his personal property to be taken, his privacy to be entirely removed, then to use him to do all the houses chores because of THOUGHT?"


So, more or less the USSR-ish?
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Postby The USOT » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:13 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
The USOT wrote:To quote myself
"Even if you agree with the warped idea of communism that the parent follows, do you honestly beleive that the child deserved his money to be taken, his personal property to be taken, his privacy to be entirely removed, then to use him to do all the houses chores because of THOUGHT?"


So, more or less the USSR-ish?

In certain parts of it yes.
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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:14 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
The USOT wrote:To quote myself
"Even if you agree with the warped idea of communism that the parent follows, do you honestly beleive that the child deserved his money to be taken, his personal property to be taken, his privacy to be entirely removed, then to use him to do all the houses chores because of THOUGHT?"


So, more or less the USSR-ish?


Yep. USSR communism, also known as non-communism.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:14 pm

The USOT wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Give that man a medal.

Even if you agree with the warped idea of communism that the parent follows, do you honestly beleive that the child deserved his money to be taken, his personal property to be taken, his privacy to be entirely removed, then to use him to do all the houses chores because of THOUGHT?

It seems like a perfectly legitimate way to demonstrate the flaws in his chosen political ideology to me. And at least they're not sending him to Siberia. Perhaps the stepfather has taken it a little too far, though. He's made his point, he should probably have dropped the whole charade after a day or so. I feel kind of sorry for the kid even though I appreciate his stepfather's point.
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Postby Anarkadia » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:14 pm

Saiwania wrote:That seems like a valid tactic to use to me. If he's a communist then he shouldn't mind following the ideology if he truly believes in it. Communism advocates for the elimination of private property, so whichever possessions he had should be shared in common if he were to live a communist lifestyle.


No. Just, no. You're equating private ownership of the means of production with personal property just like that dad, which is why it is obvious neither one of you know what the hell you are talking about.
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Postby East Ormania » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:14 pm

Saiwania wrote:That seems like a valid tactic to use to me. If he's a communist then he shouldn't mind following the ideology if he truly believes in it. Communism advocates for the elimination of private property, so whichever possessions he had should be shared in common if he were to live a communist lifestyle.

So the other capitalist members of the house receive what they earned PLUS the commie guy's shared goods?
Oh dear!
This is wrong.
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Postby The USOT » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:19 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The USOT wrote:Even if you agree with the warped idea of communism that the parent follows, do you honestly beleive that the child deserved his money to be taken, his personal property to be taken, his privacy to be entirely removed, then to use him to do all the houses chores because of THOUGHT?

It seems like a perfectly legitimate way to demonstrate the flaws in his chosen political ideology to me. And at least they're not sending him to Siberia. Perhaps the stepfather has taken it a little too far, though. He's made his point, he should probably have dropped the whole charade after a day or so. I feel kind of sorry for the kid even though I appreciate his stepfather's point.

Ultimately the only point which can be taken from this is that it is ok to punish your children for thought.
But lets ignore how bad parenting this is, and look at the method itself.
Good parenting does NOT involve cruel punishment because you beleive a child said something stupid.
This is the equivelant of the parent who`s five year old says that he wishes that he could eat "candy" all day, resulting in the parent feeding them nothing but candy untill the child throws up for an extended period.
Then when the child says "I dont want to live at home" (something my own sister once said in response to us asking her to tidy her room) pushing them out the house and locking the door, then letting them live homeless for a week.

IF the parent honestly beleived that communism is such a bad idea to the point where action must be taken, the first thing that they should have done is to talk about it, and not rush to such a punishment.
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Postby Sovietta » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:21 pm

Wow.... That is not very nice to treat their child that way. Again, oppression by capitalists. This is one of the reasons why I hate capitalism.
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Postby Tarea » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:22 pm

Well, if the Step Son is a true communist, then he needs to perform phase 1 in my opinion: Revolution.

(Ironically, I am an Authoritarian. But taking personal property? Too far.)
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Postby Felix Terra » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm

What a (your favorite curse word here). Does this count as, you know, anything illegal?
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Postby Capitalist America » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm

Huh. I actually laughed when I read this.


Oh well, whatever. This reminds me of the dad who uses his .45 to shoot his daughter's laptop.



However, it's not like the dad really "exploited" his son. I have do the brunt of the chores at my house too, and I don't think I'm being exploited. The mom and dad should exempt themselves not because they are capitalist, but because they are his parents. Chores are good, because if I didn't have them, I'd be on NationStates all day long. :p
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Postby The USOT » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:23 pm

Tarea wrote:Well, if the Step Son is a true communists, then he needs to perform phase 1 in my opinion: Revolution.

(Ironically, I am an Authoritarian. But taking personal property? Too far.)
That would have been a hilarious result XD
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:24 pm

Wow. Talk about bad parenting.
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Postby Delvoir » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:24 pm

I hate this smug, 'haha, we're so clever' way of parenting. It's such an American thing to make such a big deal out of the relatively small matter of political preference!
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Postby Felix Terra » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:24 pm

Capitalist America wrote:Huh. I actually laughed when I read this.


Oh well, whatever. This reminds me of the dad who uses his .45 to shoot his daughter's laptop.



However, it's not like the dad really "exploited" his son. I have do the brunt of the chores at my house too, and I don't think I'm being exploited. The mom and dad should exempt themselves not because they are capitalist, but because they are his parents. Chores are good, because if I didn't have them, I'd be on NationStates all day long. :p

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Postby Nationstatelandsville » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:24 pm

The wonders a healthy dose of paranoia and ignorance, coupled with some likely ego issues, can create.
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Postby Oterro » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:24 pm

the social battle asks for no martyrs. no leftist consents to the system he finds himself tied to and it is wholly unreasonable and unfair to expect him to exact destruction on himself merely on principals unfit for his current situation.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Hesse wrote:Good for the parents in dealing with the situation.

How very McCarthyist of you.

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Postby Norstal » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:26 pm

Wait, no, in communism, even capitalists have to share the work.

This is...this is showing him capitalism.
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