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Postby Czechanada » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:50 am

No. They should be distibuting hijabs.
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Postby Necrophilopolis » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:50 am

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Necrophilopolis wrote:Since it's taxpayer money the taxpayers should vote on it.
*You're also overlooking the economic-right argument as well


If taxpayers voted on every single use of their money, all their money would go into referenda and the government would have nothing left over to actually accomplish anything.

In regards to the original question, yes. In fact, my old high school did hand out free condoms courtesy of a local safe-sex group.


The argument is too long because I think at least 99.999% of all taxes are theft.

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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:50 am

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Postby Smartass alcoholics » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:51 am

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I don't support encouraging students to have sex, and that is exactly what putting condoms in the schools would do. If they want condoms, they should buy them at a store.



and what if they are to embarased to? if they have easy acsess from people they know and trust then it would save everyone alot of hassle and regret

If they are embarassed to have safe sex, why are they not embarassed to risk STDs? I mean, cmon, there's an easy way to get past the embarassment, and i'm gonna refer to what i did for this.
"Ask a trusted friend/adult". They will understand, since they've gone through it.
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:51 am

Czechanada wrote:No. They should be distibuting hijabs.

condoms are a lot like hijabs, covering the head

well, more like burqas actually, now that i think about it
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Postby Galloism » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:52 am

Raeyh wrote:High school students are underage and can not have sex legally. Providing condoms to people who are under the age of consent would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Umm...

In most states, high school students can have sex legally. Most states have an age of consent of 16-18, and close in age exemptions before that down to 13-14.

So, high school students, in most states, can have sex legally.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:52 am

Necrophilopolis wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
If taxpayers voted on every single use of their money, all their money would go into referenda and the government would have nothing left over to actually accomplish anything.

In regards to the original question, yes. In fact, my old high school did hand out free condoms courtesy of a local safe-sex group.


The argument is too long because I think at least 99.999% of all taxes are theft.



The money belongs to the government. It's letting you borrow it to show a value of wealth.
Taxes are payment for this service.
You do not have to pay taxes (most of the time) on non-money.
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Postby Zack Mattox » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:53 am

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Samuraikoku wrote:
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As to those who say that schools shouldn't "promote sexual activity" I'm going to go ahead and assume your households don't have:
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yummy apple pie... makes me want to have sex.........?

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Postby Khadgar » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:53 am

Galloism wrote:
Raeyh wrote:High school students are underage and can not have sex legally. Providing condoms to people who are under the age of consent would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Umm...

In most states, high school students can have sex legally. Most states have an age of consent of 16-18, and close in age exemptions before that down to 13-14.

So, high school students, in most states, can have sex legally.


Don't bother, Raeyh really really hates sex and won't listen to anything you say that impinges on his world view.

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Postby Raeyh » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:53 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Raeyh wrote:High school students are underage and can not have sex legally. Providing condoms to people who are under the age of consent would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor.


16 is the age of consent here.
And there are R+J laws allowing consent between people under the age of consent provided there isn't much difference between the ages. (Same in a lot of US states.)


Even if we consider a 16 age of consent, freshmen and sophomores are both under 16 and both have access to the same medical facilities. Romeo and Juliet laws aren't that common.

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Postby Aggicificicerous » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:54 am

Necrophilopolis wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
If taxpayers voted on every single use of their money, all their money would go into referenda and the government would have nothing left over to actually accomplish anything.

In regards to the original question, yes. In fact, my old high school did hand out free condoms courtesy of a local safe-sex group.


The argument is too long because I think at least 99.999% of all taxes are theft.


In this case, the tax money has already been collected. Complaining about taxes being theft is neither useful nor worthwhile.

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Postby Necrophilopolis » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:54 am

ANY type of education and preparedness is a good idea, and the only non-economic arguments against it are fear-based ideals that would ultimately devolve society if followed.

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Postby Smartass alcoholics » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:54 am

Galloism wrote:
Raeyh wrote:High school students are underage and can not have sex legally. Providing condoms to people who are under the age of consent would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

Umm...

In most states, high school students can have sex legally. Most states have an age of consent of 16-18, and close in age exemptions before that down to 13-14.

So, high school students, in most states, can have sex legally.

There's not just the fact of "are you old enough to legally have sex", there's also "are you mature enough to risk unprotected sex, and in turn risk a child before you're ready".
Huuuuge difference.
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Postby Souseiseki » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:54 am

Necrophilopolis wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
If taxpayers voted on every single use of their money, all their money would go into referenda and the government would have nothing left over to actually accomplish anything.

In regards to the original question, yes. In fact, my old high school did hand out free condoms courtesy of a local safe-sex group.


The argument is too long because I think at least 99.999% of all taxes are theft.

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Postby West Angola » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:55 am

Isn't it sad that we are just resigned to the fact that teens will have sex? I blame the 60s...

and 70s and 80s and 90s and 00s...
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Postby Smartass alcoholics » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:55 am

Zack Mattox wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Keep it safe, Brothers!

As to those who say that schools shouldn't "promote sexual activity" I'm going to go ahead and assume your households don't have:
TV
Internet
Hand Held Video Games
Bibles
Magazines
Music
Crisco
Apple Pie
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doorknobs
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cars
indoor plumbing
etc.




yummy apple pie... makes me want to have sex.........?

(False info) The cinnamon is obviously an aphrodisiac!
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Postby Necrophilopolis » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:55 am

In this case, the tax money has already been collected. Complaining about taxes being theft is neither useful nor worthwhile.


You misunderstand, I'm with Rothbard, I'm not saying that they're literally stolen or misplaced in any specific scenario.

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Postby Chaarn » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:56 am

It's not the school's job.
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Postby Alaje » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:56 am

Zack Mattox wrote:
Alaje wrote:
I don't support encouraging students to have sex, and that is exactly what putting condoms in the schools would do. If they want condoms, they should buy them at a store.



and what if they are to embarased to? if they have easy acsess from people they know and trust then it would save everyone alot of hassle and regret


If they're "adult" enough to fuck they shouldn't have a problem getting some condoms from the store.


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Alaje wrote:
I don't support encouraging students to have sex, and that is exactly what putting condoms in the schools would do. If they want condoms, they should buy them at a store.



Hi, this claim is demonstrably wrong. You should stop making it.

OBJECTIVES: This study examines the impact of the condom availability program in New York City public high schools by comparing rates of sexual activity and condom use for New York students and similar students in Chicago. METHODS: A total of 7119 students from 12 randomly selected New York schools and 5738 students from 10 Chicago schools participated in a cross-sectional survey. RESULTS: New York students, compared with Chicago students, reported equal rates of sexual activity but higher rates of condom use at last intercourse (odds ratio [OR] = 1.36). For higher-risk students (those with three or more sexual partners in the past 6 months), condom use was greater in New York (OR = 1.85) than in Chicago. CONCLUSIONS: Condom availability has a modest but significant effect on condom use and does not increase rates of sexual activity. These findings suggest that school-based condom availability can lower the risk of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases for urban teenagers in the United States.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1380965/


In short, teenagers fuck regardless, offering condoms increases condom usage, not sexual activity. Feel free to stop making your erroneous claim.


So you're telling me that the first thing you think upon seeing a condom isn't sex? Bull shit.
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Postby Czechanada » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:56 am

Zack Mattox wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Keep it safe, Brothers!

As to those who say that schools shouldn't "promote sexual activity" I'm going to go ahead and assume your households don't have:
TV
Internet
Hand Held Video Games
Bibles
Magazines
Music
Crisco
Apple Pie
Hands
doorknobs
shampoo bottles
vegetables
cars
indoor plumbing
etc.




yummy apple pie... makes me want to have sex.........?


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Postby Smartass alcoholics » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:56 am

Chaarn wrote:It's not the school's job.

This should be enough of an answer.
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:56 am

Zack Mattox wrote:
The Emerald Dawn wrote:Keep it safe, Brothers!

As to those who say that schools shouldn't "promote sexual activity" I'm going to go ahead and assume your households don't have:
TV
Internet
Hand Held Video Games
Bibles
Magazines
Music
Crisco
Apple Pie
Hands
doorknobs
shampoo bottles
vegetables
cars
indoor plumbing
etc.




yummy apple pie... makes me want to have sex.........?

Didn't see American Pie, did you?

West Angola wrote:Isn't it sad that we are just resigned to the fact that teens will have sex? I blame the 60s...and 70s and 80s and 90s and 00s...

The '20s called, they'd like you to review teenage pregnancy rates. The '30s called, they'd like you to review teen marriage rates. The '40s called, they'd like you to review the unwed mother statistics.

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Postby Zack Mattox » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:57 am

Others may agree that teenagers should be given condoms, but they do not think that it is the government's job. Instead, these folks want the parents to take a more active role. I am all for this. I think parents should make more of an effort to educate their teenagers about sex, especially the need for protection. During this talk parents should, of course, provide condoms to their children, and use a banana to demonstrate how it works.

However, we cannot rely solely upon parents for the safety of their children when it comes to sex. Remember:just because a parent says they don't want us having sex doesn't mean that we will listen.

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Postby Khadgar » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:57 am

Chaarn wrote:It's not the school's job.


Tell me o person who registered-- yesterday, why should a school not provide for the safety of it's students?

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Postby Mediterra » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:57 am

Provided the condom's brand is not shown, yes. I would be against advertising in schools.

Better yet, the condoms should be distributed by the government, not companies.
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