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Postby Menassa » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:36 pm


Indeed.
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:43 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:Ooooohhhh!

Indeed.

>_> there are no feasts for awhile....it makes me sad...
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Postby Menassa » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:53 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Indeed.

>_> there are no feasts for awhile....it makes me sad...

Yeah and you're not supposed to eat meat during 'the 9 days'
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:56 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:>_> there are no feasts for awhile....it makes me sad...

Yeah and you're not supposed to eat meat during 'the 9 days'

O_O does that include Noahides too? >_> cuz if so, I'm still good.
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Postby Menassa » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:56 pm

Vazdania wrote:
Menassa wrote:Yeah and you're not supposed to eat meat during 'the 9 days'

O_O does that include Noahides too? >_> cuz if so, I'm still good.

I don't think it includes Noahides.

IIRC Tisha B'Av's on the 5th of August.
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Vazdania » Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:58 pm

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:O_O does that include Noahides too? >_> cuz if so, I'm still good.

I don't think it includes Noahides.

IIRC Tisha B'Av's on the 5th of August.

[O_O] I suppose its time to upgrading prayers for peace in Yisrael.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:19 pm


interesting read, thanx
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

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Postby Vazdania » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:23 pm

I hope everyone's fast went smoothly!
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 4:23 am

Vazdania wrote:I hope everyone's fast went smoothly!


indeed, the bus was empty going to work.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:28 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Vazdania wrote:I hope everyone's fast went smoothly!


indeed, the bus was empty going to work.

I just spent it reading lamentations and the perhaps not so found in the Torah books of the Maccabees.
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Postby Lleu llaw Gyffes » Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:39 am

Pesach, Rosh ha Shannah & Yom Kippur are defined in book of Exodus.

Purim is defined in book of Esther.

Hannukah is defined in book of Maccabees. But Maccabees was rejected from the Bible, so why is the Feast still kept?
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Postby Vazdania » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:04 pm

Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:Pesach, Rosh ha Shannah & Yom Kippur are defined in book of Exodus.

Purim is defined in book of Esther.

Hannukah is defined in book of Maccabees. But Maccabees was rejected from the Bible, so why is the Feast still kept?

Because its a commemoration of a historical event......plus Judaism isn't "sola scriptura"
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:24 am

Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:Pesach, Rosh ha Shannah & Yom Kippur are defined in book of Exodus.

Purim is defined in book of Esther.

Hannukah is defined in book of Maccabees. But Maccabees was rejected from the Bible, so why is the Feast still kept?

because who gives up an excuse to eat?

more seriously to most jews the tanack is not the only thing that makes jewish tradition or law
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:15 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:Pesach, Rosh ha Shannah & Yom Kippur are defined in book of Exodus.

Purim is defined in book of Esther.

Hannukah is defined in book of Maccabees. But Maccabees was rejected from the Bible, so why is the Feast still kept?

because who gives up an excuse to eat?

more seriously to most jews the tanack is not the only thing that makes jewish tradition or law

HA!
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Postby Adab » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:32 am

You've just undergone the Tisha B'Av fast, am I right? The 2014 date was from the August 4 sunset to the August 5 nightfall.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:55 am

Adab wrote:You've just undergone the Tisha B'Av fast, am I right? The 2014 date was from the August 4 sunset to the August 5 nightfall.

Correct! :)
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Aug 10, 2014 8:21 am

Vazdania wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:because who gives up an excuse to eat?

more seriously to most jews the tanack is not the only thing that makes jewish tradition or law

HA!


there was an interesting article on my jewish learning on this.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/texts/B ... .shtml?p=0 :

one area where
we definately miss menassa's or evariams input. there is a lot of stuff they know better than i do.
https://www.hvst.com/posts/the-clash-of ... s-wl2TQBpY

The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger
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Postby Maryginia » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:27 am

Menassa wrote:
Vazdania wrote:O_O does that include Noahides too? >_> cuz if so, I'm still good.

I don't think it includes Noahides.

IIRC Tisha B'Av's on the 5th of August.

Wait, Tisha b' av was on the 5th I thought it was the third
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:30 am

Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:Pesach, Rosh ha Shannah & Yom Kippur are defined in book of Exodus.

Purim is defined in book of Esther.

Hannukah is defined in book of Maccabees. But Maccabees was rejected from the Bible, so why is the Feast still kept?

That's funny... that you think their defined in those books.

It's also funny that you think Jewish cannon is based on what books define what feast.

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Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:31 am

Maryginia wrote:
Menassa wrote:I don't think it includes Noahides.

IIRC Tisha B'Av's on the 5th of August.

Wait, Tisha b' av was on the 5th I thought it was the third

9th.

Tisha = 9

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Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
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This is my god and I shall exalt him
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Allanea » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:50 am

Agnostic/Atheist Jew from Ashdod, Israel, reporting to thread.
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Postby Valica » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:52 am

Allanea wrote:Agnostic/Atheist Jew from Ashdod, Israel, reporting to thread.


What does that mean? You're culturally (also known as racially) Jewish?

Also, what is it like over there? How on-edge is everyone?
And are you for or against the way Israel handles Palestine and Gaza?
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Postby Menassa » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:53 am

Valica wrote:
Allanea wrote:Agnostic/Atheist Jew from Ashdod, Israel, reporting to thread.


[...]
And are you for or against the way Israel handles Palestine and Gaza?

Israel and Palestine have their own thread, so as to no clog up the discussions on Jews and Judaism.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."
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Postby Valica » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:23 am

Menassa wrote:
Valica wrote:
[...]
And are you for or against the way Israel handles Palestine and Gaza?

Israel and Palestine have their own thread, so as to no clog up the discussions on Jews and Judaism.


I rarely get a chance to get an Israeli's opinion on it, though.
I'm a cis-het male. Ask me about my privilege.

Valica is like America with a very conservative economy and a liberal social policy.


Population - 750,500,000


Army - 3,250,500
Navy - 2,000,000
Special Forces - 300,000


5 districts
20 members per district in the House of Representatives
10 members per district in the Senate

Political affiliation - Centrist / Humanist


Religion - Druid


For: Privacy, LGBT Equality, Cryptocurrencies, Free Web, The Middle Class, One-World Government


Against: Nationalism, Creationism, Right to Segregate, Fundamentalism, ISIS, Communism
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:07 am

Valica wrote:
Menassa wrote:Israel and Palestine have their own thread, so as to no clog up the discussions on Jews and Judaism.


I rarely get a chance to get an Israeli's opinion on it, though.

send a tg
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger
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