Iran - It's all Britain's fault.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Yeah that's not how it works...but whatever. However to say Iran was 'pretty good' I recommend you bone up on Savak for a start or (for a starter) Robert Fisks - The Great War for Civilisation.

Well, it was. It certainly wasn't an islamic dictatorship, and guess what three things Iran had at the time that it doesn't have today?

An American embassy, Burger King and KFC.

I rest my case

I would rather Britain had none of those three things, they're no loss.

Also, there's a far more cogent argument for blaming Britain for the whole Palestine/Israel thing than there is for blaming Britain for Iran. You can use the Russian Empire and the Roman Empire as equally good examples of foreigners damaging Iran.

[Chinese Regions]

All countries starting with "I"?

Irish, Iranians, Iraqis, Indians...

[Volnotova]

Yeah that's not how it works...but whatever. However to say Iran was 'pretty good' I recommend you bone up on Savak for a start or (for a starter) Robert Fisks - The Great War for Civilisation.

Well, it was. It certainly wasn't an islamic dictatorship, and guess what three things Iran had at the time that it doesn't have today?

An American embassy, Burger King and KFC.

I rest my case

Which excludes the massive amount of foreign investments, including military support it received from western nations.

If anything, it is mostly Iran that turned it self to shit.

[Old Tyrannia]

Ah yes, us evil Brits. We're so very vile and horrid, aren't we?

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

Yeah that's not how it works...but whatever. However to say Iran was 'pretty good' I recommend you bone up on Savak for a start or (for a starter) Robert Fisks - The Great War for Civilisation.

Well, it was. It certainly wasn't an islamic dictatorship, and guess what three things Iran had at the time that it doesn't have today?

An American embassy, Burger King and KFC.

I rest my case

yeah tell that to the tens thousands who were executed, maimed and imprisoned by the regime for having the temerity to challenge the status quo...you know...democracy...

[TaQud]

Ah yes, us evil Brits. We're so very vile and horrid, aren't we?

well the bad teeth are scary... (sterotype)

[Wantsum]

None of the above, shit just happens.

[Hippostania]

>Burger King & KFC

You aren't helping Hippo.

Hey, popcorn chicken is friggin delicious! No wonder the Iranian regime is so shitty today, what can you expect from a country whose populace doesn't have an access to popcorn chicken D:<

[TaQud]

None of the above, shit just happens.

i see it as its all their faults

[Krownsinburg]

Hey, you leave Wales out of this

Fine, it's England's fault, happy?

[The Nuclear Fist]

No, they belong to the individual or company who owns that piece of land. Of course some people of that nation might have shares of that company, but in no way does that stuff belong to ''the people of that nation''. It's not theirs, they do not deserve it.

The person or company that 'bought' the land does not deserve it because they did not build it or the resources. That land and the resources within should, instead, be nationalized and the profits used to enhance the nation and to benefit the populace. That is the only moral thing to do, any other action is amoral and parasitic.

So, if say, the Russian government today decides to seize all American, European, British and Chinese assets regardless of the fact that their own laws state it is the property of the individuals and companies(foreign that they might be) that own them, then that is legal?

If the Russian government decides that the natural resources and land of the Russian nation rightfully belong to the Russian people, and should be used to benefit the Russian people, and adapt their laws to reflect this, than yes. It would absolutely be legal to seize said assets, as well as being the moral thing to do.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

is this because its fourth of july?

I did actually laugh out loud and then started to hack up half a lung.

[TaQud]

Hey, you leave Wales out of this

Fine, it's England's fault, happy?

i think it should be the UK's fault

[Volnotova]

Ah yes, us rightful Brits. We're so very advanced and civilized, aren't we?

Fix'd.

This massive butthurt of nationals blaming the BE for their own flawed economic and foreign policies is getting old.

Well, it was. It certainly wasn't an islamic dictatorship, and guess what three things Iran had at the time that it doesn't have today?

An American embassy, Burger King and KFC.

I rest my case

yeah tell that to the tens thousands who were executed, maimed and imprisoned by the regime for having the temerity to challenge the status quo...you know...democracy...

Yea, like modern Iran is any better.

Screw "democracy"(More like rotten pseudo-democratic parliamentary aristocracy, but nevertheless), the Shah did an excellent job.

[Hippostania]

ted, maimed and imprisoned by the regime for having the temerity to challenge the status quo...you know...democracy...

Yup, mostly Soviet-aligned communists and radical islamists. The latter got to power and you see what kind of shithole Iran is today.

[Zemvoray]

Saying that X country's problems are all Y's fault, is quite frankly a load of bollocks. If that nation seeks fit to whine about something without actually trying to solve the problem, then they're not achieving anything toward a solution, and therefore their argument is invalid. There is never a single cause, the world doesn't work that way.

[Of the Free Socialist Territories]

Hey, you leave Wales out of this

Fine, it's England's fault, happy?

No, not really, last time I checked it wasn't the English Parliament and the English Government.

Saying that X country's problems are all Y's fault, is quite frankly a load of bollocks. If that nation seeks fit to whine about something without actually trying to solve the problem, then they're not achieving anything toward a solution, and therefore their argument is invalid. There is never a single cause, the world doesn't work that way.

USA and Cuba, where the USA is X and Cuba is Y?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Everything is Britain's fault.

[TaQud]

Everything is Britain's fault.

[Sevco 5508]

Iran, UK, US, are all at fault.

[Hippostania]

The person or company that 'bought' the land does not deserve it because they did not build it or the resources.

You don't deserve that computer because you did not build it yourself.

Two people agreed on a deal and a piece of land changed ownership. You have no right to interfere in a mutual business deal between individuals.

That land and the resources within should, instead, be nationalized and the profits used to enhance the nation and to benefit the populace.

Just like your computer should be sent to the poor starving kids in Africa amirite?

That is the only moral thing to do, any other action is amoral and parasitic.

Hey, you're the one advocating stealing. Not me.

[Blazedtown]

Iran is the opressive, WMD-seeking, shit-hole it is today, not because of America, but rather, because of Britain.

When the Iranian President kicked the British Oil Companie(s) out of Iran, what did they do? Brush it off? No, they decided to manipulate the US President to stage a coup, and establish a Pro-West Dictatorship, because the Iranian President was receiving support from the Communists, just so the British could have some of Iran's Black Gold.

THAT is the reason Iran is such a piece of crap right now.

THAT is the reason Iran hates the US right now.

But, infact, they should be hating Britain rather then the US, they should be demonizing Britain, not the US.

We were fooled, just because those damn, greedy, Brits couldn't stand being kicked out of Iran's Oil Fields.

It's all Britains fault.

The US could always have said no...much like they did with the entire Suez thing....

Biggest mistake we ever made.

Also, Its not the fault of the British, its the fault of Jimmy Carter. If he was never elected, the Iranian revolution wouldn't have happened, and Iran would still be in our back pocket, meaning Iraq wouldn't have invaded, which wouldn't force them do take out so many loans from Kuwait so they wouldn't have invaded them to get out of debt. That means we wouldn't have had to station half a million men in Saudi Arabia, pissing off fundamentalist Muslims who would later go off and met up with this one guy named bin Laden. Jimmy Carter's presidency indirectly caused 9/11.

[Narthakka]

If we go down this route we'll eventually be blaming William the Conqueror.

Naw, let's just blame Hitler for everything.

That's what he's for anyway.

Stalin too.

No, let's blame the Jews.

[Helcasia]

Everything is Britain's fault.

The ancestors of the British were from Germany and France. It's all Europe's fault.

[Volnotova]

>Burger King & KFC

You aren't helping Hippo.

Hey, popcorn chicken is friggin delicious! No wonder the Iranian regime is so shitty today, what can you expect from a country whose populace doesn't have an access to popcorn chicken D:<

I prefer the more exquisite elements of western cuisine.

ted, maimed and imprisoned by the regime for having the temerity to challenge the status quo...you know...democracy...

Yup, mostly Soviet-aligned communists and radical islamists. The latter got to power and you see what kind of shithole Iran is today.

And not just Iran...

Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Central Africa, Mali, Niger, Sudan, Somalia, etc.

So much for de-colonialism. I am not trying to be an imperial apologist here, but in some ways western colonial powers actually did good to the people they subjugated.