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Why are many countries against Israel

Postby Nordengrund » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:41 am

I have been reading some posts and many, or at least a decent number said they would rather support Iran than Israel, I even heard non- Muslim people say that. Why are these non- Muslim countries also against Israel? Personally, I am Pro- Israel. So NS, why do you think these NS nations are Anti- Israel?
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:46 am

1. Many of them are Muslim countries, they tend to take Palestine's side
2. Israel has done some nasty shit in it's time
3. A lot of people haven't accurately looked at the situation.

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Postby Ovisterra » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:47 am

As VR said above, they've done some nasty things. Obviously, other people have done nasty things too, but that doesn't make it OK.
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:47 am

Because Israel has a long history of doing exactly the worst possible thing from a PR perspective.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:48 am

Some people hate Jews. Some people think Israel has done shit things. Some people think Israel never should have been created. Some people flipped a coin and it came up "Palestine". There's lots of reasons one would oppose Israel. Some good, some bad, some baffling.
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Postby Goodclark » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:50 am

Israel is a Jewish country, the countries surrounding it are Islamic. So they will take the Palestine's side.

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Postby Nordengrund » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:51 am

Well one NS nation was Norwegian, and they said they opposed Israel.
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Postby Divair » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:52 am

Because Israel, much like the US, has a foreign policy that basically screams "STFU, WE DO WHAT WE WANT".

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Postby Globexanter » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:52 am

Because the "Israel Defense Forces" spend more time on the aggressive than the defensive...

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:54 am

Divair wrote:Because Israel, much like the US, has a foreign policy that basically screams "STFU, WE DO WHAT WE WANT".

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Postby Altria » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:54 am

Divair wrote:Because Israel, much like the US, has a foreign policy that basically screams "STFU, WE DO WHAT WE WANT".

Sigged. Hits the nail right on its head.
Divair wrote:Because Israel, much like the US, has a foreign policy that basically screams "STFU, WE DO WHAT WE WANT".

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Postby Westphalium » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:55 am

Divair wrote:Because Israel, much like the US, has a foreign policy that basically screams "STFU, WE DO WHAT WE WANT".


This.

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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:56 am

Divair wrote:Because Israel, much like the US, has a foreign policy that basically screams "STFU, WE DO WHAT WE WANT".

A lot of great nations have shared this policy

Like Apartheid South Africa, Nazi Germany and France.
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Postby Kazhanistan » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:56 am

An Illegal occupation and a rich history in war crimes.

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Postby Angleter » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:57 am

Because they do some rather nasty things, and there's a large cadre of Arab states (and Iran) who are dedicated to complaining to the rest of the world about those nasty things.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:58 am

Kazhanistan wrote:An Illegal occupation and a rich history in war crimes.

Welcome to the middle east.
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Postby Kazhanistan » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:00 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Kazhanistan wrote:An Illegal occupation and a rich history in war crimes.

Welcome to the middle east.

Yup just ask the Kurds, Shias, Armenians, and Hazaras.

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Postby Divair » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:00 am

Kazhanistan wrote:
Vitaphone Racing wrote:Welcome to the middle east.

Yup just ask the Kurds, Shias, Armenians, and Hazaras.

Just rename the Middle East to Occupationistan.
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:02 am

Divair wrote:
Kazhanistan wrote:Yup just ask the Kurds, Shias, Armenians, and Hazaras.

Just rename the Middle East to Occupationistan.

I advocate cutting out the middle man and placing Exxon in charge of all the Middle East.
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Postby Kazhanistan » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:04 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Divair wrote:Just rename the Middle East to Occupationistan.

I advocate cutting out the middle man and placing Exxon in charge of all the Middle East.

What about the places that don't have oil?

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Postby Page » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:04 am

I'm pro-coexistence between an Israeli state and a Palestinian state. I admit, however, that I find Netenyahu to be an incredibly incompetent, and sometimes dangerous leader, and his party is detrimental to the very people they claim to stand up for. The warmongering far-right in Israel needs to be ousted, and similarly, the fundamentalist jihadists in Gaza need to be ousted as well, but remember that the Palestinians have become radicalized because of their treatment and the virtual apartheid state has only made things worse for everyone.

I've known a few Israelis, including a guy in my first semester of college who grew up on a kibbutz and served in the Israeli military, he was one of the most intelligent and most interesting people I ever knew, and he was very understanding and open and I learned a lot from him.

Anti-semitism is perhaps one of the most poisonous and destructive forms of bigotry, it is also one of the most ignorant. I just wish that valid criticism of the Israeli state and Zionism (and I am not even against Zionism, just right-wing Zionism and Netenyahu's apartheid party) would not be automatically seen as anti-semitism. I also wish Islamic fundamentalism's unwarranted influence on Palestine would fade away and their hate disappear as well.
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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:04 am

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Postby The Shirefolk » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:07 am

Isreal is hated by three-fourths of the world due to the fact that( since they're creation in 1949-to present) They have killed 900,000 civilians. Additionally, this has nothing to do with Islam. I am a Palestinian and an Athiest, but you don't see me waving "I heart Isreal" banners just because I'm not Muslim. They've used relentelless propoganda in America to glorify Isreal, and de=huminize it's enemies!

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Postby Goodclark » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:10 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Divair wrote:Just rename the Middle East to Occupationistan.

I advocate cutting out the middle man and placing Exxon in charge of all the Middle East.

:clap:

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Postby Souseiseki » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:46 am

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Kazhanistan wrote:An Illegal occupation and a rich history in war crimes.

Welcome to the middle east.

it's ok because everyone does it and everyone hates them and also DEMOCRACY

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