Sex, Contraceptives, Birth CRTL, All Bad

[Scomagia]

Another issue is porn... because when you watch porn, you are viewing a woman's body as if you have ownership over her body. You do not own the bodies of any young woman you want to look at, and this is coming from a man.

As someone who has made porn...
Shut up.

TS: Arousing you whether you like it or not.

If the words don't work, the photos will...
*sly grin*

dammit, TS strikes again.

[Northwest Slobovia]

You named your penis Jesus? Well, I guess it does bring love and happiness to all who accept it...

We await the coming of the Lord after he rises again.

Well played, sir and/or ma'am, well played!

[Jagalonia]

Probably FST in disguise....>.>

[Noobubersland]

Thank you, jesusland. I'd like you to stay here with me on this thread against the hedonists.

"With the jawbone of a donkey, I've killed a thousand men!"

"Only god knows who is saved"

[Torcularis Septentrionalis]

I'm really trying to find a way to keep you talking but I'm stuck. I'm just amazed. I want more.

You said it yourself I win.
The Lord God will always triumph over Satan.
Be it in the final days of judgment or the words he forces you to type.
Don't forget though that our God is a loving God.
If you ask him and take him into your soul he will forgive you.
Also Hitler was gods way of punishing the jews.

I Called it! Godwin! I called that mothafucka!

You named your penis Jesus? Well, I guess it does bring love and happiness to all who accept it...

We await the coming of the Lord after he rises again.

He loves to show himself to the ladies, because they need him most.

[The Batorys]

Contraceptives, birth control, and having sex for pleasure are all bad.

Contraceptives and birth control is bad due to the fact that it slows population growth, and it creates and aging nation. Who would want to live in an elderly nation? Look at Japan.

Population growth is unsustainable given limited resources. We have limited resources. This is pretty basic math.

Furthermore, contraceptives cause men to spill their seeds.

Why is this bad? I don't see anything wrong with it.

Birth control is even worse, because it involves murdering an innocent, living, baby that has a soul, before it is even borne.

Factually incorrect. Most forms of birth control prevent ovulation, which makes it impossible to have a fertilized egg in the first place. It helps to know what you're talk about before you start running your mouth.

If you did't want to have a baby, then don't have sex!

Sex is not just for procreation. It serves a function for emotional bonding, stress relief, etc. And just, well, it feels good. I'd venture to guess that you've never had sex, and so, again, have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

If you were raped, then it is not the baby's fault that you were raped, it is the raper's fault!

How many rape victims do you know? Do you think someone would want to live with a constant reminder of their ordeal for nine months? Additionally, do you think that a baby born from such circumstances will have a good childhood? If so, you are delusional.

Another thing is that the purpose of sex is for procreation, not fun.

Wrong, as stated before, sex serves a variety of functions besides procreation.

If you are bored find another hobby besides sex.

Sex is not a hobby. It's something people who want to have a good time together do, whether they are a couple or not. Kinda like going to the movies, or watching something on TV, or having dinner together.

People should have sex to increase the population.

No, they really shouldn't. The Earth's human population is already much too high. As stated previously, where are all the resources going to come from to sustain this, magic land? You ever lived in the inner city? With unlimited population growth, eventually everywhere you can live will probably be like that.

With a higher population, businesses will grow because they will have more worker, and they won't have to raise wages so high. If businesses grow, then the economy will be improved.

There is so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to start. Your grasp of economics is laughably simplistic. Are you fucking 12? With out of control population growth, businesses will fail due to running out of resources. Businesses do not grow from having more workers, they grow from having more customers. That can't happen if workers are paid so little that they can't afford what businesses sell. The economy will not be improved, it will eventually collapse.

A higher population also leads to a larger, and more powerful military.

And this is good, because why?

The only sex act there should be is intercourse, because it is needed for the creation of baby's.

And you are going to police this how? Again, unconstrained population growth is a terrible idea.

Women do not need to have orgasms in order to have babies.

Ah, I see that you're a misogynist (a sexist) as well. How utterly unsurprising, given how idiotic the rest of your ideas are.

Masturbation is also a bad thing, because it cause people to see their genitals as toys for pleasure, and not for procreative purposes.

Why is that bad? My body is mine to do with what I want.

Also, abstinence leads to a build up of hormones, and that creates an euphoric feeling; that's science, and it is nature's anti-depressant.

Spoken like someone who can't get laid. Abstinence sucks, doesn't compare to the wonderful feeling after an enthusiastic fucking.

Another problem these days is that women and men are overly concerned with the appearance of their genitals. Women are shaving, and some even get "reductions" and men are shaving down there.

Actually, I somewhat agree with this. I'm against this weird idea that somehow women's genitals look better if they appear basically the same as little girls'. It's a little creepy to be honest. However, people can do what they want with their bodies, and there's nothing wrong with appreciating someone's genitals.

There are a ton of ways to have fun besides sex, let sex be for procreation.

I guess it's summer vacation for some people already?

Probably just a troll. Oh well.

[Milks Empire]

Another issue is porn... because when you watch porn, you are viewing a woman's body as if you have ownership over her body. You do not own the bodies of any young woman you want to look at, and this is coming from a man.

Because there is no such thing as porn without women in it.

We would know.

Probably FST in disguise....>.>

Not even FST was this obviously willfully ignorant.

[Individuality-ness]

Another issue is porn... because when you watch porn, you are viewing a woman's body as if you have ownership over her body. You do not own the bodies of any young woman you want to look at, and this is coming from a man.

Uh, no? Who said that they owned the body? They own the porn, sure, but not the body.
And this is coming from a woman, mind. Who is probably just as ignorant to the minds of horny men.

[Desperate Measures]

I'm really trying to find a way to keep you talking but I'm stuck. I'm just amazed. I want more.

You said it yourself I win.
The Lord God will always triumph over Satan.
Be it in the final days of judgment or the words he forces you to type.
Don't forget though that our God is a loving God.
If you ask him and take him into your soul he will forgive you.
Also Hitler was gods way of punishing the jews.

I was surprised you answered a joke comment with a racially motivated serious answer. And you just keep going. It's amazing. I'd love to argue with you but what you are saying is just so wrong and so trollish that it is just not worth it. You win? No. Gosh, no. But I think your God has something to say about your pride.

[Wikkiwallana]

I almost thought you were serious.

And then you said "raper".

Raper is another word for rapist. Same thing.

Just because my beliefs are different from yours does NOT make me a troll.
Also, I'm NOT a troll this is what I believe in real life. A man should never go south on a woman, because that is ineffective at reproduction. What happened to the olden days when America, and Britain used to hold tightly to there values?
Why does one need to have sex, in order to have fun? Get a hobby.

The only thing that I do like the Japanese for is their use of abstinence, that might be the reason why they are so academically successful.

Moving on with my topic, another issue I'd like to address is MARRIAGE, because it is the only condition under which people should have sex. It is the godly way, and it provides a family for the raising of children. There should not be babies borne out of wedlock.

Legislating morality doesn't work. Never has, never will.

Edit: also, if you think the Japanese are abstinent, you've been living in a cave with no internet.

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

There is only one vote that agrees with you. And it's probably your own vote. An aging population is a sign of a developing nation. Rapid growth is a sign of a developing nation. Look at modern Europe. Then look at Communist China under Mao.

But you can't halt population growth either. After all, there is a fortune in baby clothes.

My friend, this is a good attempt. But in the future, I advise you pick a less well know topic to troll about.

There are 5 votes, but yes one of them is mine.

[Desperate Measures]

Because there is no such thing as porn without women in it.

We would know.

Probably FST in disguise....>.>

Not even FST was this obviously willfully ignorant.

He also wasn't religious.

[Katganistan]

Not even the Victorians were that prudish. I'd love to find a Victorian-era porn cache.

I've read Victorian porn. Needless to say, tastes sure have changed in the past 120 years.

So obtusely wordy!

[Dragoria]

Probably FST in disguise....>.>

FST changed their views shortly before being DoS.
And had far better spelling/grammar.
Might be Raeyh though.

[Chulainan]

I'm really trying to find a way to keep you talking but I'm stuck. I'm just amazed. I want more.

You said it yourself I win.
The Lord God will always triumph over Satan.
Be it in the final days of judgment or the words he forces you to type.
Don't forget though that our God is a loving God.
If you ask him and take him into your soul he will forgive you.
Also Hitler was gods way of punishing the jews.

I reject him. If he is real then send your dictators, i'll be waiting. We shall see who is stronger, the genocidal maniac or mankind and it's free-will.

[The better jesusland]

You said it yourself I win.
The Lord God will always triumph over Satan.
Be it in the final days of judgment or the words he forces you to type.
Don't forget though that our God is a loving God.
If you ask him and take him into your soul he will forgive you.
Also Hitler was gods way of punishing the jews.

I was surprised you answered a joke comment with a racially motivated serious answer. And you just keep going. It's amazing. I'd love to argue with you but what you are saying is just so wrong and so trollish that it is just not worth it. You win? No. Gosh, no. But I think your God has something to say about your pride.

There is a difference between pride and righteousness.
Even if I am proud it doesn't matter as I have accepted Jesus the savior and am in a state of grace!
If I ask for forgiveness I will receive it.

[Yuktova]

You said it yourself I win.
The Lord God will always triumph over Satan.
Be it in the final days of judgment or the words he forces you to type.
Don't forget though that our God is a loving God.
If you ask him and take him into your soul he will forgive you.
Also Hitler was gods way of punishing the jews.

Jesus was a rabbi, you know.

Another issue is porn... because when you watch porn, you are viewing a woman's body as if you have ownership over her body. You do not own the bodies of any young woman you want to look at, and this is coming from a man.

Because there is no such thing as porn without women in it.

Yep, apparently, gay porn doesn't exist. *nods*

[Frisivisia]

Contraceptives, birth control, and having sex for pleasure are all bad.

Contraceptives and birth control is bad due to the fact that it slows population growth, and it creates and aging nation. Who would want to live in an elderly nation? Look at Japan.

Population growth is unsustainable given limited resources. We have limited resources. This is pretty basic math.

Furthermore, contraceptives cause men to spill their seeds.

Why is this bad? I don't see anything wrong with it.

Birth control is even worse, because it involves murdering an innocent, living, baby that has a soul, before it is even borne.

Factually incorrect. Most forms of birth control prevent ovulation, which makes it impossible to have a fertilized egg in the first place. It helps to know what you're talk about before you start running your mouth.

If you did't want to have a baby, then don't have sex!

Sex is not just for procreation. It serves a function for emotional bonding, stress relief, etc. And just, well, it feels good. I'd venture to guess that you've never had sex, and so, again, have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

If you were raped, then it is not the baby's fault that you were raped, it is the raper's fault!

How many rape victims do you know? Do you think someone would want to live with a constant reminder of their ordeal for nine months? Additionally, do you think that a baby born from such circumstances will have a good childhood? If so, you are delusional.

Another thing is that the purpose of sex is for procreation, not fun.

Wrong, as stated before, sex serves a variety of functions besides procreation.

If you are bored find another hobby besides sex.

Sex is not a hobby. It's something people who want to have a good time together do, whether they are a couple or not. Kinda like going to the movies, or watching something on TV, or having dinner together.

People should have sex to increase the population.

No, they really shouldn't. The Earth's human population is already much too high. As stated previously, where are all the resources going to come from to sustain this, magic land? You ever lived in the inner city? With unlimited population growth, eventually everywhere you can live will probably be like that.

With a higher population, businesses will grow because they will have more worker, and they won't have to raise wages so high. If businesses grow, then the economy will be improved.

There is so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to start. Your grasp of economics is laughably simplistic. Are you fucking 12? With out of control population growth, businesses will fail due to running out of resources. Businesses do not grow from having more workers, they grow from having more customers. That can't happen if workers are paid so little that they can't afford what businesses sell. The economy will not be improved, it will eventually collapse.

A higher population also leads to a larger, and more powerful military.

And this is good, because why?

The only sex act there should be is intercourse, because it is needed for the creation of baby's.

And you are going to police this how? Again, unconstrained population growth is a terrible idea.

Women do not need to have orgasms in order to have babies.

Ah, I see that you're a misogynist (a sexist) as well. How utterly unsurprising, given how idiotic the rest of your ideas are.

Masturbation is also a bad thing, because it cause people to see their genitals as toys for pleasure, and not for procreative purposes.

Why is that bad? My body is mine to do with what I want.

Also, abstinence leads to a build up of hormones, and that creates an euphoric feeling; that's science, and it is nature's anti-depressant.

Spoken like someone who can't get laid. Abstinence sucks, doesn't compare to the wonderful feeling after an enthusiastic fucking.

Another problem these days is that women and men are overly concerned with the appearance of their genitals. Women are shaving, and some even get "reductions" and men are shaving down there.

Actually, I somewhat agree with this. I'm against this weird idea that somehow women's genitals look better if they appear basically the same as little girls'. It's a little creepy to be honest. However, people can do what they want with their bodies, and there's nothing wrong with appreciating someone's genitals.

There are a ton of ways to have fun besides sex, let sex be for procreation.

I guess it's summer vacation for some people already?

Probably just a troll. Oh well.

That's a very nice wall of text you have there. Shame no one read it.

[The Kiaser Colonies]

Contraceptives, birth control, and having sex for pleasure are all bad.

Contraceptives and birth control is bad due to the fact that it slows population growth, and it creates and aging nation. Who would want to live in an elderly nation? Look at Japan. Furthermore, contraceptives cause men to spill their seeds.
Birth control is even worse, because it involves murdering an innocent, living, baby that has a soul, before it is even borne.
If you did't want to have a baby, then don't have sex! If you were raped, then it is not the baby's fault that you were raped, it is the raper's fault!

Another thing is that the purpose of sex is for procreation, not fun. If you are bored find another hobby besides sex. People should have sex to increase the population. With a higher population, businesses will grow because they will have more worker, and they won't have to raise wages so high. If businesses grow, then the economy will be improved. A higher population also leads to a larger, and more powerful military. The only sex act there should be is intercourse, because it is needed for the creation of baby's. Women do not need to have orgasms in order to have babies.

Masturbation is also a bad thing, because it cause people to see their genitals as toys for pleasure, and not for procreative purposes. Also, abstinence leads to a build up of hormones, and that creates an euphoric feeling; that's science, and it is nature's anti-depressant. Another problem these days is that women and men are overly concerned with the appearance of their genitals. Women are shaving, and some even get "reductions" and men are shaving down there.

There are a ton of ways to have fun besides sex, let sex be for procreation.

I'd say you're some craic. Do you also believe that we should all whip ourselves whenever we have impure thoughts? Oh wait, S&Mers would enjoy that. Would that qualify under you policy on masturbation mein Fuhrer? Get a life.

[Wikkiwallana]

Masturbation has been practised by both sexes for a VERY long time. I suspect that it goes back by centuries.

Longer than that, archaeologists have found ancient stone age dildos.

[Northern Dominus]

Another issue is porn... because when you watch porn, you are viewing a woman's body as if you have ownership over her body. You do not own the bodies of any young woman you want to look at, and this is coming from a man.

It's an issue if one has addiction problems, just like alcohol or drugs or gambling or proselytizing can come with addictive problems.
To normal sexually healthy (IE not repressed and deviant) humans, pornography isn't the objectifying beast that some people would have everyone else believe. Women at the very least get to appear entirely in the video, if anybody is objectified or reduced to parts its the men who have their phallus in shot and that's it.

[Noobubersland]

Masturbation has been practised by both sexes for a VERY long time. I suspect that it goes back by centuries.

Longer than that, archaeologists have found ancient stone age dildos.

I wonder who found that it was a dildo, and what I would give to be near to them when they did

[The Richard Bastion Republic]

You said it yourself I win.
The Lord God will always triumph over Satan.
Be it in the final days of judgment or the words he forces you to type.
Don't forget though that our God is a loving God.
If you ask him and take him into your soul he will forgive you.
Also Hitler was gods way of punishing the jews.

Jesus was a rabbi, you know.

Another issue is porn... because when you watch porn, you are viewing a woman's body as if you have ownership over her body. You do not own the bodies of any young woman you want to look at, and this is coming from a man.

Because there is no such thing as porn without women in it.

The same thing applies for men as well, you don't own the bodies of men either.

[Wamitoria]

Population growth is unsustainable given limited resources. We have limited resources. This is pretty basic math.


Why is this bad? I don't see anything wrong with it.


Factually incorrect. Most forms of birth control prevent ovulation, which makes it impossible to have a fertilized egg in the first place. It helps to know what you're talk about before you start running your mouth.


Sex is not just for procreation. It serves a function for emotional bonding, stress relief, etc. And just, well, it feels good. I'd venture to guess that you've never had sex, and so, again, have no clue what the hell you're talking about.


How many rape victims do you know? Do you think someone would want to live with a constant reminder of their ordeal for nine months? Additionally, do you think that a baby born from such circumstances will have a good childhood? If so, you are delusional.


Wrong, as stated before, sex serves a variety of functions besides procreation.


Sex is not a hobby. It's something people who want to have a good time together do, whether they are a couple or not. Kinda like going to the movies, or watching something on TV, or having dinner together.


No, they really shouldn't. The Earth's human population is already much too high. As stated previously, where are all the resources going to come from to sustain this, magic land? You ever lived in the inner city? With unlimited population growth, eventually everywhere you can live will probably be like that.


There is so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to start. Your grasp of economics is laughably simplistic. Are you fucking 12? With out of control population growth, businesses will fail due to running out of resources. Businesses do not grow from having more workers, they grow from having more customers. That can't happen if workers are paid so little that they can't afford what businesses sell. The economy will not be improved, it will eventually collapse.


And this is good, because why?


And you are going to police this how? Again, unconstrained population growth is a terrible idea.


Ah, I see that you're a misogynist (a sexist) as well. How utterly unsurprising, given how idiotic the rest of your ideas are.


Why is that bad? My body is mine to do with what I want.


Spoken like someone who can't get laid. Abstinence sucks, doesn't compare to the wonderful feeling after an enthusiastic fucking.


Actually, I somewhat agree with this. I'm against this weird idea that somehow women's genitals look better if they appear basically the same as little girls'. It's a little creepy to be honest. However, people can do what they want with their bodies, and there's nothing wrong with appreciating someone's genitals.


I guess it's summer vacation for some people already?

Probably just a troll. Oh well.

That's a very nice wall of text you have there. Shame no one read it.

The OP is so epically wrong that it probably didn't necessitate a point-by-point refutation, but I do applaud Batorys for giving it a go.

[Milks Empire]

Not even FST was this obviously willfully ignorant.

He also wasn't religious.

As I recall, this is true.

I've read Victorian porn. Needless to say, tastes sure have changed in the past 120 years.

So obtusely wordy!

It's the Victorians. What else do you expect?

Masturbation has been practised by both sexes for a VERY long time. I suspect that it goes back by centuries.

Longer than that, archaeologists have found ancient stone age dildos.