Is There a "War On Women" in the U.S.A.?

[Forster Keys]

The fact that there's a whole lot of feminist threads appearing on NS at the moment might be reflecting something. I'm not sure. I'm just the amateur sociologist that they put in the corner.

[Wikkiwallana]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here.

[Laerod]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here. :roll:

I dunno, I kinda liked that one...

In 2012, the FBI changed their definition from "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will." to "The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

[The Republic of Lanos]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here.

Hilary Rosen would like to think that women who stay at home have done nothing in terms of work. The left also tends to attack conservative women harshly because they don't share the same beliefs as them.

Yeah sure. Say the GOP's doing it but deny the Democrats are doing it to conservative women. Both sides do it but the left's more hypocritical on it.

[Running Dog Capitalists]

I would say the war on women is from the Democrat side. The side that dictates that women are required to be pro-abortion, pro-universal healthcare (But hey, Keep the government out of myuterus. How does that work again?), and, most importantly, pro-Democrat. The Democrats thrive on making women feel like victims and, by the posts here and on other sites, it has worked pretty well.

Now that is the Democrat line.

But watch how they actually treat women who do not toe that line. It is vicious and brutal. All I need remember is the anti-Hillary arguments the pro-Obama supporters threw out. No, I am not talking the whole Bros before Hoes argument although my Obama-supporting friend gave me one. If Obamacare passes the Supremes then you will see a great many women suffer because of inept healthcare and bureaucracy.

Want to hold Democrats up to the high-level scrutiny the GOP endures? Ask about the Obama WH paying women 18% less. Ask about how the Democrats regard stay-at-home mothers? How about Dunn's revelation that the WH was hostile to women? Shouldn't the WH be an egalitarian paradise? Should not the media have screamed to high heaven about this? Would they have done so if this was a Republican administration?

Continue your conversation(?) and know that this whole war on women bullshit, along with the class warfare bullshit, was engineered to supply Obama with a way to avoid talking about his actual record and accomplishments. Which suck balls. Cuz women don't care, or understand, about economic policy and such. They are more concerned with the Catholic Church telling employees they can't use contraception (they don't).

Yes, that is what is important.

[Laerod]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here. :roll:

Hilary Rosen would like to think that women who stay at home have done nothing in terms of work. The left also tends to attack conservative women harshly because they don't share the same beliefs as them.

Yeah sure. Say the GOP's doing it but deny the Democrats are doing it to conservative women. Both sides do it but the left's more hypocritical on it.

How many conservative women that want to be stay at home moms are forced to have divorces, lots of sex, or otherwise abandon their lifestyles by legislative means? Fals equivalence there. Majorly false equivalence.

[Ashmoria]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here.

Hilary Rosen would like to think that women who stay at home have done nothing in terms of work. The left also tends to attack conservative women harshly because they don't share the same beliefs as them.

Yeah sure. Say the GOP's doing it but deny the Democrats are doing it to conservative women. Both sides do it but the left's more hypocritical on it.

who cares what hillary rosen things? she is a pundit on CNN.

[Nadkor]

I would say the war on women is from the Democrat side.

Oh, seriously. Please. Go and acquaint yourself with reality and come back.

[Ashmoria]

I would say the war on women is from the Democrat side. The side that dictates that women are required to be pro-abortion, pro-universal healthcare (But hey, Keep the government out of myuterus. How does that work again?), and, most importantly, pro-Democrat. The Democrats thrive on making women feel like victims and, by the posts here and on other sites, it has worked pretty well.

Now that is the Democrat line.

But watch how they actually treat women who do not toe that line. It is vicious and brutal. All I need remember is the anti-Hillary arguments the pro-Obama supporters threw out. No, I am not talking the whole Bros before Hoes argument although my Obama-supporting friend gave me one. If Obamacare passes the Supremes then you will see a great many women suffer because of inept healthcare and bureaucracy.

Want to hold Democrats up to the high-level scrutiny the GOP endures? Ask about the Obama WH paying women 18% less. Ask about how the Democrats regard stay-at-home mothers? How about Dunn's revelation that the WH was hostile to women? Shouldn't the WH be an egalitarian paradise? Should not the media have screamed to high heaven about this? Would they have done so if this was a Republican administration?

Continue your conversation(?) and know that this whole war on women bullshit, along with the class warfare bullshit, was engineered to supply Obama with a way to avoid talking about his actual record and accomplishments. Which suck balls. Cuz women don't care, or understand, about economic policy and such. They are more concerned with the Catholic Church telling employees they can't use contraception (they don't).

Yes, that is what is important.

that didnt make a lick of sense and it didnt do anything do dispel the idea that there is a war on women.

[New Edom]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here.

Hilary Rosen would like to think that women who stay at home have done nothing in terms of work. The left also tends to attack conservative women harshly because they don't share the same beliefs as them.

Yeah sure. Say the GOP's doing it but deny the Democrats are doing it to conservative women. Both sides do it but the left's more hypocritical on it.

In fact actually let's take it a little farther: leftists in the USA and in Canada have been attacking the traditional family, and have not offered anything better to replace it with. Conservatives have no choice but to prevent them from making further gains, because there is clearly no common ground that feminists are prepared to stand on. Looking at the results of rampant feminism in countries like Sweden is proof of this. The laws being put forward on abortion are the result of feminism refusing to come to the table to talk about sexual integrity on their own part as well as on the part of others. It's not a war on women; it's a war on feminism.

[Farnhamia]

Hilary Rosen would like to think that women who stay at home have done nothing in terms of work. The left also tends to attack conservative women harshly because they don't share the same beliefs as them.

Yeah sure. Say the GOP's doing it but deny the Democrats are doing it to conservative women. Both sides do it but the left's more hypocritical on it.

who cares what hillary rosen things? she is a pundit on CNN.

And she got slapped around by the Democrats almost immediately.

[Laerod]

Cuz women don't care, or understand, about economic policy and such.

Yes! Women know your limits!

[Running Dog Capitalists]

who cares what hillary rosen things? she is a pundit on CNN.

A pundit who has visited the WH more times than any General in the military and who has met with Jarrett and Obama. She is a Democrat advisor. NOW weighed in and basically agreed with Rosen's initial point. Being a stay-at-home mother basically makes you unable to comment on economics and government policy.

[Ordo Drakul]

Why is infanticide considered by the posters to be a "War on Women"? Don't most women want to keep their offspring?

[Wikkiwallana]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here.

I dunno, I kinda liked that one...

In 2012, the FBI changed their definition from "The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will." to "The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

Wrong instance of redefinition:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/09/abortion-forcible-rape-language-hr-3_n_820846.html

[Ashmoria]

who cares what hillary rosen things? she is a pundit on CNN.

And she got slapped around by the Democrats almost immediately.

and she clarified and apologized as quickly.

[Laerod]

Hilary Rosen would like to think that women who stay at home have done nothing in terms of work. The left also tends to attack conservative women harshly because they don't share the same beliefs as them.

Yeah sure. Say the GOP's doing it but deny the Democrats are doing it to conservative women. Both sides do it but the left's more hypocritical on it.

In fact actually let's take it a little farther: leftists in the USA and in Canada have been attacking the traditional family, and have not offered anything better to replace it with. Conservatives have no choice but to prevent them from making further gains, because there is clearly no common ground that feminists are prepared to stand on. Looking at the results of rampant feminism in countries like Sweden is proof of this. The laws being put forward on abortion are the result of feminism refusing to come to the table to talk about sexual integrity on their own part as well as on the part of others. It's not a war on women; it's a war on feminism.

Do share evidence for your baseless claims...

[Running Dog Capitalists]

Why is infanticide considered by the posters to be a "War on Women"? Don't most women want to keep their offspring?

Pro-Baby = anti-Woman. Don't you keep up with these things?

[Ashmoria]

who cares what hillary rosen things? she is a pundit on CNN.

A pundit who has visited the WH more times than any General in the military and who has met with Jarrett and Obama. She is a Democrat advisor. NOW weighed in and basically agreed with Rosen's initial point. Being a stay-at-home mother basically makes you unable to comment on economics and government policy.

who cares? do i hold mitt romney responsible for something gretchen carlson says on foxnews?

[Wikkiwallana]

Transvaginal ultrasounds, birth control bans, redefining rape, public lists of everyone who gets an abortion and who the they got it from, allowing hospitals to deny emergency life saving abortions…

No, I don't see any War on Women here.

Hilary Rosen would like to think that women who stay at home have done nothing in terms of work. The left also tends to attack conservative women harshly because they don't share the same beliefs as them.

Yeah sure. Say the GOP's doing it but deny the Democrats are doing it to conservative women. Both sides do it but the left's more hypocritical on it.

Who the hell is Hilary Rosen, and why should I care what she has to say?

And how is disagreeing, even name calling, on anywhere near the same level as legislative attempts at restricting freedoms and legal protections?

[Laerod]

I dunno, I kinda liked that one...

Wrong instance of redefinition:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/09/abortion-forcible-rape-language-hr-3_n_820846.html

That's pretty terrible.

[Ashmoria]

Why is infanticide considered by the posters to be a "War on Women"? Don't most women want to keep their offspring?

infanticide is murder. no one considers it a war on women when female murderers are punished.

[Wikkiwallana]

Wrong instance of redefinition:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/09/abortion-forcible-rape-language-hr-3_n_820846.html

That's pretty terrible.

There was a thread on it, way back when. I don't remember if I started it, or added a link to it, or what, but I seem to remember contributing some sort of info source.

[Laerod]

That's pretty terrible.

There was a thread on it, way back when. I don't remember if I started it, or added a link to it, or what, but I seem to remember contributing some sort of info source.

I've only really been paying the occasional bit of attention since April Fools. And sometimes I see dumb threads and just avoid them on principle.

[Running Dog Capitalists]

who cares? do i hold mitt romney responsible for something gretchen carlson says on foxnews?

Has Carlson met with Romney to discuss policy? 30+ times?