Is There a "War On Women" in the U.S.A.?

[Ashmoria]

who cares? do i hold mitt romney responsible for something gretchen carlson says on foxnews?

Has Carlson met with Romney to discuss policy? 30+ times?

dont know, dont care.

it is legitimate to talk about what ms rosen said about mrs romney. it is not legitimate to pretend that she is a spokesperson for the president or the democratic party.

[Sensitive New Age Guys]

Has Carlson met with Romney to discuss policy? 30+ times?

dont know, dont care.

it is legitimate to talk about what ms rosen said about mrs romney. it is not legitimate to pretend that she is a spokesperson for the president or the democratic party.

Televison interviews of Presidential politics do not happen in a vacuum. It's hard to imagine that she wasn't consulted by her higher ups. it was a bad call by the D. party.

[Laerod]

Wow, that is a terrible poll result. I can only hope it improves as people come home from work.

[Laerod]

dont know, dont care.

it is legitimate to talk about what ms rosen said about mrs romney. it is not legitimate to pretend that she is a spokesperson for the president or the democratic party.

Televison interviews of Presidential politics do not happen in a vacuum. It's hard to imagine that she wasn't consulted by her higher ups. it was a bad call by the D. party.

Stop straying off topic. This thread is not about an alleged repression of being able to pursue a conservative lifestyle.

[Ashmoria]

dont know, dont care.

it is legitimate to talk about what ms rosen said about mrs romney. it is not legitimate to pretend that she is a spokesperson for the president or the democratic party.

Televison interviews of Presidential politics do not happen in a vacuum. It's hard to imagine that she wasn't consulted by her higher ups. it was a bad call by the D. party.

it was on CNN. she works for CNN. she wasnt being interviewed she was doing her job.

[Nadkor]

Televison interviews of Presidential politics do not happen in a vacuum. It's hard to imagine that she wasn't consulted by her higher ups. it was a bad call by the D. party.

Stop straying off topic. This thread is not about an alleged repression of being able to pursue a conservative lifestyle.

Oh come, now, don't you know how oppressed white Christians are? I mean, surely everybody knows that their women (because, gosh, women aren't people themselves and do not count) are forced to have abortions? And that their marriages are forcibly dissolved? And that their politicians are forced to have gay affairs that later become public?

[Ashmoria]

so funny story about republican response to ms rosen:

in angry response to ms rosen the spokesman for the catholic league tweeted this:

Lesbian Dem Hilary Rosen tells Ann Romney she never worked a day in her life. Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own.

(that donohue guy. what a dick)(no im not trying to claim that the catholic league speaks for the republican party)
this tweet was so offensively stupid that sean spicer (who IS a spokesman for the republican party) tweeted this in response:

The @catholicleague should be encouraging adoption, not demeaning the parents who are blessed to raise these children

which is a really nice response. except that this republican (communications director at the repulbican national committee) just endorsed gay adoption which the republican party is solidly against.

oops that was a no-win situation.

[Nadkor]

Lesbian Dem Hilary Rosen tells Ann Romney she never worked a day in her life. Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own.

Just...what. What a complete and utterly fucking despicable person.

[Laerod]

Lesbian Dem Hilary Rosen tells Ann Romney she never worked a day in her life. Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own.

Just...what. What a complete and utterly fucking despicable person.

Really, after the top clergy in the American Catholic Church started waging a legal war against groups representing molested children, this doesn't come as a surprise at all.

[Ordo Drakul]

Really, after the top clergy in the American Catholic Church started waging a legal war against groups representing molested children, this doesn't come as a surprise at all.

Could you source this, please?

[Ashmoria]

Lesbian Dem Hilary Rosen tells Ann Romney she never worked a day in her life. Unlike Rosen, who had to adopt kids, Ann raised 5 of her own.

Just...what. What a complete and utterly fucking despicable person.

the man is a professional asshole.

[Running Dog Capitalists]

which is a really nice response. except that this republican (communications director at the repulbican national committee) just endorsed gay adoption which the republican party is solidly against.

oops that was a no-win situation.

No win? It shows compassion. It also shows the non-monolithic nature of the GOP that liberals don't understand. There is a huge libertarian presense in the GOP that is for parentless children getting adopted to any family that can support and love them. The reason libertarians don't exist in the Democrat party is do to the rabid anti-Capitalist sentiments that they foster and strive for.

[Laerod]

Really, after the top clergy in the American Catholic Church started waging a legal war against groups representing molested children, this doesn't come as a surprise at all.

Could you source this, please?

Yes.

[Laerod]

which is a really nice response. except that this republican (communications director at the repulbican national committee) just endorsed gay adoption which the republican party is solidly against.

oops that was a no-win situation.

No win? It shows compassion. It also shows the non-monolithic nature of the GOP that liberals don't understand. There is a huge libertarian presense in the GOP that is for parentless children getting adopted to any family that can support and love them. The reason libertarians don't exist in the Democrat party is do to the rabid anti-Capitalist sentiments that they foster and strive for.

Maybe they should speak up.

[1000 Cats]

I don't think it's so much a war, but there are a number of pundits and politicians who seem to be able to do nothing but demean women. Look at how Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin were treated by many entertainers and broadcasters. So often it wasn't about their ideas, even though at least one of them had some really stupid ones, and more about how they look at a given time.

That having been said, if we're talking just civics and economics, the war on women is if anything waged by women upon themselves, at the behest of culture that continues to give the notion that women need not have the same level of ambition that men have. The glass ceiling is pretty much gone; there are women in very high positions, and I can't remember the last time I heard someone complaining that they were denied a promotion due to their gender. It's a big deal now; it's just that people still haven't come to taking advantage of this newfound potential equality, making for a persevering, but hitherto untreatable, inequality.

[Running Dog Capitalists]

No win? It shows compassion. It also shows the non-monolithic nature of the GOP that liberals don't understand. There is a huge libertarian presense in the GOP that is for parentless children getting adopted to any family that can support and love them. The reason libertarians don't exist in the Democrat party is do to the rabid anti-Capitalist sentiments that they foster and strive for.

Maybe they should speak up.

We do all the time. It is just hard to get past the prejudice that you and your Democrat brothers and sisters show at the first sign of any Conservative or Libertarian policy stance. Talk of tax cuts instantly turns into 'You hate poor people." and talk of people taking responsibility for their lifestyles turns into 'You hate <add group here>!' Hard to believe that you don't get the full story.

[Evil Siamese Cats]

yes the usa works to destroy the female threat in america and re-instate the wonderful sausage fests of old.

womens' rights are being threatened. oklahoma has proposed a bill saying a fertilized egg is a human and in tennessee they're working to stop "gateway sexual activity" between men and women entirely. if the bill passes, a mother kissing her child would be a criminal charge.

american law makers need to stop telling women what's good for them and what's not. let them decide.

That Oklahoma bill doesn't have much of a chance, given that Mississippi rejected a similar bill overwhelmingly in 2011. I can't imagine things are that different in Oklahoma. Besides, that might be hard to keep up in court.

As for the Tennesse law...go no further than Lawrence v. Texas. Tennessee can ban all the sex they want; the laws will be struck down as unconstitutional.

[Ashmoria]

which is a really nice response. except that this republican (communications director at the repulbican national committee) just endorsed gay adoption which the republican party is solidly against.

oops that was a no-win situation.

No win? It shows compassion. It also shows the non-monolithic nature of the GOP that liberals don't understand. There is a huge libertarian presense in the GOP that is for parentless children getting adopted to any family that can support and love them. The reason libertarians don't exist in the Democrat party is do to the rabid anti-Capitalist sentiments that they foster and strive for.

uhhuh but mr spicer is the communications director at the repulbican national committee which means he is supposed to communicate the republican stance on things. the party is against gay adoption.

but it was an extremly nicely done response.

[Laerod]

Maybe they should speak up.

We do all the time.

Prove it.

[Nadkor]

It also shows the non-monolithic nature of the GOP that liberals don't understand.

This is just beautiful. It's poetic in its irony.

[Ashmoria]

Maybe they should speak up.

We do all the time. It is just hard to get past the prejudice that you and your Democrat brothers and sisters show at the first sign of any Conservative or Libertarian policy stance. Talk of tax cuts instantly turns into 'You hate poor people." and talk of people taking responsibility for their lifestyles turns into 'You hate <add group here>!' Hard to believe that you don't get the full story.

when the republican party officially supports gay rights you will have a point. until then anti-gay is the republican position.

[Running Dog Capitalists]

We do all the time.

Prove it.

I just did.

[Laerod]

Prove it.

I just did.

Okay, let me show you the definition of proof I'm going by:

proof
noun
1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.

[The Congregationists]

There are those in America serious about reducing sex strictly to reproduction - hence their opposition to abortion, birth control and so on. I don't know if this constitutes a "war on women" so much as women's rights and freedoms being collateral damage in this effort. Whether this movement can be taken at face value when they affirm the "sanctity of life" or some such platitude as their true motive is debatable. I think movements to restrict abortion, contraception and birth control court disaster. But to say they're a "war on women" is a stretch. Not out of the question - again, I think the true motives of pro lifers are questionalbe - but a stretch never the less.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Yep.