Where do you stand in Politics?

[Fontoria]

Imperial and democratic.

[Ora Amaris]

Whatever answers the question "how do we create an ideal society" the best is where I stand. I see the Nordic model that answers that question the best.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Right. Glad someone noticed my post.

I heard there's been a movement towards a more laissez-faire style in some of the Nordic countries. Is this true?

Yay for questions with really complicated answers!

What you're probably hearing about is the gradual reduction of trade union membership in Denmark and Socialdemokraterne (the Danish Social Democratic Party) having embraced more Neoliberal economic policies over the last few decades or so. You're also probably hearing about the fact that the Folketinget was (up until this last election cycle) led by a fairly solid conservative coalition.

The party to keep your eye on for moves toward total elimination of the welfare state and introduction of laissez-faire is Det Konservative Folkeparti (The Conservative Peoples' Party), as that's more or less their platform. Those guys were in a coalition with the nationalist conservatives (Dansk Folkeparti) and the liberals (Venstre) for some time, but that coalition has been narrowly overthrown by the social democrats. In the current Folketinget, DKP holds 4.9% of the available seats, down from 10.4% in 2007. DKP is a small party, and so has to rely on the liberals in order to get anything done. As it is the liberals are in a position to help out DKP (Venstre holds more seats than any other party), but the executive is led by Helle Thorning-Schmidt of the Social Democrats. She's a figure surrounded by controversy, though. The liberals might make a comeback and reclaim the executive from her at this rate.

Another thing to bear in mind: even in this conservative coalition between Venstre, DKP, and DF, the matter of the welfare state is a point of division. Dansk Folkeparti does not make as one of its objectives the welfare state's elimination. In fact, they're actually fairly friendly toward the welfare state. They just want to control immigration so that the welfare state serves Danes first. Venstre is more in line with Det Konservative Folkeparti on the issue.

[Kilobugya]

What you usually defend is quite 1984-ish. Even if I don't think you realise what your ideology really leads to.

Please don't put words in my mouth. What I defend, and more generally what the Left Front defend, is totally opposite to 1984-ish policies. The PCF/Left Front MPs voted against all the surveillance and "liberticide" laws voted both after the September 11th (under Jospin government) and against all the ones of the right-wing gov from 2002 till now. We oppose surveillance cameras in the street, we opposed extension of the "garde à vue" to 48 hours, ... And if you look at the program of the Left Front, "l'Humain d'abord", it clearly defends individual freedom and education/prevention over repression.

[Neohippies]

Libertarian communist.

[Jerusalem and Damascus]

Socially liberal, fiscally conservative enlightened despotist.

[Povos do Mar]

Communist I guess. I probably ought to be more green than I am, but I find it easier to care about other people than plants and animals which will save other people.

[Brazzland]

The 3d political compass thing told me I'm a Nationalist Liberal Authoritarian.

The position that http://www.politicalcompass.org put me was 3 squares to the right, and 2.6 squares to the top. So in terms of the political spectrum, I am a right-winged authoritarian.

However, I took a quiz on another sight, and it told me I was basically on the same position, but about 3 squares below the center line instead of above.

But I consider the politicalcompass.org one to be more accurate and I would consider myself to be more above the center line then below it.

[Ceannairceach]

*Looks down*
I stand on the floor, usually.

I am a social liberal and an economic sheep, in terms of politics.

[Kaninov]

Communist, Comrade. Specifically Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Hoxhaist.

[Ceannairceach]

Communist, Comrade. Specifically Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Hoxhaist.

I've always considered Marxism and Maoism to be at odds in many theaters. Didn't Mao's belief that the revolution would rise from the countryside conflict with, I believe, Marx's ideas about a labor revolution from the industrial centers?

[The IASM]

I currently Fascist but I am working on a new form of politics called Technoism

[Ceannairceach]

I currently Fascist but I am working on a new form of politics called Technoism

By name alone, that sounds similar to Technocracy. Have you looked at that yet?

[Moustacheopolis]

Whatever answers the question "how do we create an ideal society" the best is where I stand. I see the Nordic model that answers that question the best.

I suppose it really is a question of the society at hand. Socialism (or social democracy as you mention) requires a degree of unity of purpose in a society in order to function. This becomes harder to enforce across geographical and cultural divides, which is why communist revolutions tend to be particularly bloody. The truth of the matter is that rules break down when you try to enforce them with different types of people. Social mores decay as you increase in scale, until you get to the state of anarchy that is the world as a whole.

[Moustacheopolis]

Whatever answers the question "how do we create an ideal society" the best is where I stand. I see the Nordic model that answers that question the best.

I suppose it really is a question of the society at hand. Socialism (or social democracy as you mention) requires a degree of unity of purpose in a society in order to function. This becomes harder to enforce across geographical and cultural divides, which is why communist revolutions tend to be particularly bloody. The truth of the matter is that rules break down when you try to enforce them with different types of people. Social mores decay as you increase in scale, until you get to the state of anarchy that is the world as a whole.

[Voldasdt]

Closest thing would be National Socialist

[Moustacheopolis]

Is there even such a thing as an anarchist political party? Isn't that a little contradictory?

strictly speaking, no. Anarchists are for "voluntary societies", so joining a political party is not necessarily in violation of their ideals. One could also make the arguement that their mission would be taking gubbmint down "from the inside", like Luke Skywalker or some shit.

[Ceannairceach]

Closest thing would be National Socialist

In what manner, may I ask? The stereotypical "Schnell on the train ja ja" that you see in preteens looking to troll on the internet, or something more respectable?

[Imperiya]

I'm a liberal democratic socialist.

[Chinese Regions]

Is it weird that when ever I see "Anarchist" I think Anti-Christ?

[Imperiya]

Is it weird that when ever I see "Anarchist" I think Anti-Christ?

Absolutely not.

[Sovereign Rulers]

Anarchist

[Osterra]

Left liberal libertarian.


The Nordic model is the way to go, people.

This.

[The USOT]

I suppose it really is a question of the society at hand. Socialism (or social democracy as you mention) requires a degree of unity of purpose in a society in order to function.

Why?

[The United States Of Pandora]

Mostly liberal.

I'm against the use of recreational drugs, though, including marijuana.