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Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:40 pm**

Individuality wrote:School uniforms are ridiculous. Sure, a basic dress code makes sense (i.e, an appropriate amount of clothing, nothing gang related), but that's as far as limitations on what students can where should go. Requiring uniforms kills a basic form of individual expression, and, from my experience, creates a practically militaristic and far gloomier, more oppressive school experience.

My experience wasn't militaristic or gloomy at all.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:40 pm**

Why have them? They're literally a waste.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:40 pm**

Helcasia wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:well, some psyciatrists say that uniforms help kids think. it really, in my oppinion, doesn't. i get strait a's and pretty much everyone else in my school oes to.

In America "stait a's" don't mean anything...not compared to an A grade in the UK.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:41 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:well, some psyciatrists say that uniforms help kids think. it really, in my oppinion, doesn't. i get strait a's and pretty much everyone else in my school oes to.

Presumably you don't take an English class.

HEY I HAVE AND A IN ENGLISH BITCH!!!! :palm:

Sorry bout that..

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:42 pm**

Mavorpen wrote:Why have them? They're literally a waste.

No they don't...wear the same thing every day...take no extra time to put on than normal clothing.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:42 pm**

The god of awesome wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Presumably you don't take an English class.

HEY I HAVE AND A IN ENGLISH BITCH!!!! Sorry bout that..

(Assuming you're telling the truth.)

You know the point of getting an A is so that you can utilize it in real life? You're wasting your time if you're getting an A in English and then come here and type like that.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:42 pm**

The god of awesome wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Can't say I've a problem with them.

then the students need representation in this to. if they decide to have uniforms and the kids don't want them, who knows what would happen?

The students would wear them and some would complain about it. A few would refuse to wear them and would get punished.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:42 pm**

Helcasia wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:well, some psyciatrists say that uniforms help kids think. it really, in my oppinion, doesn't. i get strait a's and pretty much everyone else in my school oes to.

In America "stait a's" don't mean anything...not compared to an A grade in the UK.

you british are so damn full of yourself. May the gods bless america!!! :bow:

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:43 pm**

The god of awesome wrote:
Helcasia wrote:
In America "stait a's" don't mean anything...not compared to an A grade in the UK.

you british are so damn full of yourself. May the gods bless america!!!

Something tells me that God(s) don't give a fuck about America.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:43 pm**

Throughout my public schooling years, school uniform was compulsory. It was very lax for my primary school, as long as you wore the polo shirt. But in high school it was heavily regulated. We were even forced to wear black shoes, and if we didn't, they'd give us detention, which is illegal for them to do, but they somehow found a loophole. It was pretty stupid, though. I lived in a pretty ghetto area, and the punishments were severe (several detentions lead to expulsion), especially for those who couldn't afford it.

IMO, school uniform is a pretty neat idea. It's easy to identify the students. Though I don't think you should be punished if you are too poor to buy your own.

And it looks great in adult movies :lol:

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:43 pm**

Zephie wrote:
Helcasia wrote:
In America "stait a's" don't mean anything...not compared to an A grade in the UK.

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

In the US they have A grades for everything. In the UK they only start using A grades at GCSE level.

Also the US education system is inferior.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:43 pm**

Venolia wrote:Why does this matter?

Who cares if there is a uniform, or not?

Uh...Me. Our school tried to implement uniforms a few years back. I never saw so many school issued clothes burning in the parking lot

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:43 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:
then the students need representation in this to. if they decide to have uniforms and the kids don't want them, who knows what would happen?

The students would wear them and some would complain about it. A few would refuse to wear them and would get punished.

This is why I've always felt that ''rebellion'' against the school is completely pointless. Breaking the dress code to show you disagree with it won't cause them to change it. You'll just keep getting punished until you realize you're wasting your time, and then laugh about it later on in life.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:44 pm**

Helcasia wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:well, some psyciatrists say that uniforms help kids think. it really, in my oppinion, doesn't. i get strait a's and pretty much everyone else in my school oes to.

In America "stait a's" don't mean anything...not compared to an A grade in the UK.

100% true. My college essentially makes everyone retake everything from algebra on in maths. Not sure about other subjects because I've always been good in english so I pretty nearly placed out of it.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:44 pm**

Helcasia wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Why have them? They're literally a waste.

No they don't...wear the same thing every day...take no extra time to put on than normal clothing.

What extra time...? Unless you outlaw makeup, girls will spend the same amount of time getting dressed. Guys don't spend much time getting dressed anyway. Plus, here's the thing: it's a waste of money. Why pay for something that you won't wear out of school? Why should you be forced to buy clothes you don't want when you can buy clothes you DO want that you can wear outside of school as well as in school.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:44 pm**

Renascibilitas wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:HEY I HAVE AND A IN ENGLISH BITCH!!!! Sorry bout that..

(Assuming you're telling the truth.)

You know the point of getting an A is so that you can utilize it in real life? You're wasting your time if you're getting an A in English and then come here and type like that.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!! MAN YOU GUYS ARE SO JUDGEMENTAL! :palm:

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:44 pm**

Helcasia wrote:
Zephie wrote:What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

In the US they have A grades for everything. In the UK they only start using A grades at GCSE level.

Also the US education system is inferior.

And?

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:44 pm**

The god of awesome wrote:
Venolia wrote:Why does this matter?

Who cares if there is a uniform, or not?

well, some psyciatrists say that uniforms help kids think. it really, in my oppinion, doesn't. i get strait a's and pretty much everyone else in my school oes to.

Yeah... I still don't see why they matter; it should be up to the school.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:45 pm**

School uniforms are extremely beneficial, and I support them. It helps instill in students the ability later in life to wear proper clothing for work, subliminally suggests equality among students, and removes self-consciousness in students.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:45 pm**

Individuality wrote:School uniforms are ridiculous. Sure, a basic dress code makes sense (i.e, an appropriate amount of clothing, nothing gang related), but that's as far as limitations on what students can where should go. Requiring uniforms kills a basic form of individual expression, and, from my experience, creates a practically militaristic and far gloomier, more oppressive school experience.

Nope, not at all. Uniform itself doesn't change the environment of schools... at all. If anything, it enhances the experience. No longer are people judged on what they wear, how they wear it, etc.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:45 pm**

The god of awesome wrote:
Renascibilitas wrote:
(Assuming you're telling the truth.)

You know the point of getting an A is so that you can utilize it in real life? You're wasting your time if you're getting an A in English and then come here and type like that.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!! MAN YOU GUYS ARE SO JUDGEMENTAL!

You spelled it wrong.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:45 pm**

The god of awesome wrote:
Renascibilitas wrote:
(Assuming you're telling the truth.)

You know the point of getting an A is so that you can utilize it in real life? You're wasting your time if you're getting an A in English and then come here and type like that.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!! MAN YOU GUYS ARE SO JUDGEMENTAL!

~~Or, is it you, who is sensitive?~~

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:46 pm**

Renascibilitas wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:you british are so damn full of yourself. May the gods bless america!!!

Something tells me that God(s) don't give a fuck about America.

Meaning they dont exist? Even if they did. I sure wouldnt XD

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:46 pm**

Venolia wrote:
The god of awesome wrote:FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!! MAN YOU GUYS ARE SO JUDGEMENTAL!

Or, is it you, who is sensitive?

He's going to have a hard time on this forum if he tells everyone who says something he doesn't like to ''fuck off''.

Posted: **Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:47 pm**

Van Dalia wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
They have benefits. It's a waste of time trying to argue they don't.

And what benefits would those be?

1) They reduce the ability for student gang members to display their affiliation, a problem in some schools.
2) They reduce the need for parents to provide their kids expensive, stylish clothing.
3) Some students benefit from fewer distractions, such as looking at the other kiddies' fancy clothing.
3a) Some students simply benefit from external discipline, but OTOH, some students rebel against it, so it's rather a mixed bag.

However, I don't think one needs uniforms per se to achieve these goals. A relatively broad dress code (no gang colors, shirts with buttons, no labels visible, no jeans, no althetic shoes except in gym class) achieves the same ends (except 3a, but it has its own limitations) while still allowing the kids to dress mostly as they choose.

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