NATION

PASSWORD

Completely drug-resistant strain of TB reported in India

For discussion and debate about anything. (Not a roleplay related forum; out-of-character commentary only.)
User avatar
Avenio
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11113
Founded: Feb 08, 2009
Ex-Nation

Completely drug-resistant strain of TB reported in India

Postby Avenio » Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:59 pm

Wired wrote:Well, this is a bad way to start the year.

Over the past 48 hours, news has broken in India of the existence of at least 12 patients infected with tuberculosis that has become resistant to all the drugs used against the disease. Physicians in Mumbai are calling the strain TDR, for Totally Drug-Resistant. In other words, it is untreatable as far as they know.

News of some of the cases was published Dec. 21 in an ahead-of-print letter to the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases, which just about everyone missed, including me. (But not, thankfully, the hyper-alert global-health blogger Crawford Kilian, to whom I hat-tip.) That letter describes the discovery and treatment of four cases of TDR-TB since last October. On Saturday, the Times of India disclosed that there are actually 12 known cases just in one hospital, the P. D. Hinduja National Hospital and Medical Research Centre; in the article, Hinduja’s Dr. Amita Athawale admits, “The cases we clinically isolate are just the tip of the iceberg.” And as a followup, the Hindustan Times reported yesterday that most hospitals in the city — by extension, most Indian cities — don’t have the facilities to identify the TDR strain, making it more likely that unrecognized cases can go on to infect others.

Why this is bad news: TB is already one of the world’s worst killers, up there with malaria and HIV/AIDS, accounting for 9.4 million cases and 1.7 million deaths in 2009, according to the WHO. At the best of times, TB treatment is difficult, requiring at least 6 months of pill combinations that have unpleasant side effects and must be taken long after the patient begins to feel well.

Because of the mismatch between treatment and symptoms, people often don’t take their full course of drugs — and from that (and some other factors I’ll talk about in a minute) we get multi-drug resistant and extensively drug-resistant, MDR and XDR, TB. MDR is resistant to the first-choice drugs, requiring that patients instead be treated with a larger cocktail of “second-line” agents, which are less effective, have more side effects, and take much longer to effect a cure, sometimes 2 years or more. XDR is resistant to the three first-line drugs and several of the nine or so drugs usually recognized as being second choice.

As of last spring, according to the WHO, there were about 440,000 cases of MDR-TB per year, accounting for 150,000 deaths, and 25,000 cases of XDR. At the time, the WHO predicted there would be 2 million MDR or XDR cases in the word by 2012.

That was before TDR-TB.

The first cases, as it turns out, were not these Indian ones, but an equally under-reported cluster of 15 patients in Iran in 2009. They were embedded in a larger outbreak of 146 cases of MDR-TB, and what most worried the physicians who saw them was that the drug resistance was occurring in immigrants and cross-border migrants as well as Iranians: Half of the patients were Iranian, and the rest Afghan, Azerbaijani and Iraqi. The Iranian team raised the possibility at the time that rates of TDR were higher than they knew, especially in border areas where there would be little diagnostic capacity or even basic medical care.

The Indian cases disclosed before Christmas demonstrate what happens when TB patients don’t get good medical care. The letter to CID describes the course of four of the 12 patients; all four saw two to four doctors during their illness, and at least three got multiple, partial courses of the wrong antibiotics. The authors say this is not unusual:

The vast majority of these unfortunate patients seek care from private physicians in a desperate attempt to find a cure for their tuberculosis. This sector of private-sector physicians in India is among the largest in the world and these physicians are unregulated both in terms of prescribing practice and qualifications. A study that we conducted in Mumbai showed that only 5 of 106 private practitioners practicing in a crowded area called Dharavi could prescribe a correct prescription for a hypothetical patient with MDR tuberculosis. The majority of prescriptions were inappropriate and would only have served to further amplify resistance, converting MDR tuberculosis to XDR tuberculosis and TDR tuberculosis.


As their comment suggests, the other TB challenge is diagnosis, especially of resistant strains, and here again the news is not good. The WHO said last spring that only two-thirds of countries with resistant TB epidemics have the lab capacity to detect the resistant strains. As a result, only one MDR patient out of every 10 even gets into treatment, and when they do, cure rates range from 82 percent down to 25 percent. That’s for MDR. None of the TDR patients have been recorded cured, and at least one of the known Indian patients has died.

Meanwhile, health authorities estimate that one patient with active TB can infect up to 15 others. And thus resistant TB spreads: XDR-TB was first identified just in 2006, and it has since been found in 69 countries around the world.

Cite: Zarir F et al. Totally Drug-Resistant Tuberculosis in India. Clin Infect Dis. advance access Dec. 21, 2011. doi: 10.1093/cid/cir889.


This is really not a good thing for India's healthcare system, if not the whole world's. Antibiotic resistance is increasing amongst many diseases throughout the developed and undeveloped world, caused by a combination of poor treatment practices and the simple nature of many bacteria species' ability to rebound and adapt after unsuccessful treatments. In my mind, this is one of the greatest public health challenges of the 21st century, and one that goes terribly unnoticed by the general populace. We should be doing much more to help countries like India in helping to establish modern and efficient healthcare systems, because ultimately the consequences of their system's failures will not stay within their borders for long, in this globalized day and age.

On that note, what say you, NSG? Should we do more about the emerging phenomena of antibiotic resistance? Should we, as in the industrialized Western nations, do more to assist poor countries like India in combating infectious diseases like TB? And if not, what, if anything, should be done about the emergence of new and dangerous strains like TDR-TB?

User avatar
Eboinland
Diplomat
 
Posts: 662
Founded: May 04, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Eboinland » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:00 pm

Oh, my God.

This is very, very bad.

Should we do more about the emerging phenomena of antibiotic resistance? Should we, as in the industrialized Western nations, do more to assist poor countries like India in combating infectious diseases like TB? And if not, what, if anything, should be done about the emergence of new and dangerous strains like TDR-TB?

1. yes
2. yes, as much as we can afford
3. I wouldn't know, but I'm sure there's a committee about it or something...
Last edited by Eboinland on Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill."
-Winston Churchill
Not. My. Den!

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163860
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:00 pm

Well, we're fucked. Pack your bags, folks, this is TB's planet now.
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Conserative Morality
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 76676
Founded: Aug 24, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:02 pm

My friends have all been buying gas masks.

I think it's time for me to get one.
On the hate train. Choo choo, bitches. Bi-Polar. Proud Crypto-Fascist and Turbo Progressive. Dirty Étatist. Lowly Humanities Major. NSG's Best Liberal.
Caesar and Imperator of RWDT
Got a blog up again. || An NS Writing Discussion

User avatar
Lackadaisical2
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 50831
Founded: Mar 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:04 pm

I'm not worried, I'm in good health, and well, if I catch it and it kills me, I probably deserved it.
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.

User avatar
Orlkjestad
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5280
Founded: Aug 31, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Orlkjestad » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:05 pm

That's it, I'm staying in my house for the rest of my life.
The Reformed Republican Union Of Orlkjestad
Comrade-President Leon Palantine
Vice President Arcturo Tarentum
Secretary Of Foreign Affaires Marco Valentia
Storefronts: They're all under construction, please go away
Alliances: Forever alone
Other Threads: The Severan Faith
Alert Levels
DEFCON: 1 2 3 4 [5]
Terrorism Alert Levels: [Low] Guarded Elevated High Severe

"Although we see the world through different eyes, we share the same idea of paradise." -The Pet Shop Boys in Se A Vida E

User avatar
Galloism
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 73175
Founded: Aug 20, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Galloism » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:05 pm

Don't ya'll worry.

I'll repopulate earth for ya.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163860
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:05 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:I'm not worried, I'm in good health, and well, if I catch it and it kills me, I probably deserved it.

Dibs on Lack's stuff.
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Trollgaard
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9933
Founded: Mar 01, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Trollgaard » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:05 pm

Gross.

User avatar
Conserative Morality
Post Kaiser
 
Posts: 76676
Founded: Aug 24, 2007
Ex-Nation

Postby Conserative Morality » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:06 pm

I've played Pandemic. I know what to do.

Move to Madagascar.
On the hate train. Choo choo, bitches. Bi-Polar. Proud Crypto-Fascist and Turbo Progressive. Dirty Étatist. Lowly Humanities Major. NSG's Best Liberal.
Caesar and Imperator of RWDT
Got a blog up again. || An NS Writing Discussion

User avatar
Lackadaisical2
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 50831
Founded: Mar 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:06 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:I'm not worried, I'm in good health, and well, if I catch it and it kills me, I probably deserved it.

Dibs on Lack's stuff.

Theres not much, but you're welcome to anything I haven't drank or turned into drink yet.
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163860
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:06 pm

Trollgaard wrote:Gross.

Understatement of the thread so far.
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Lackadaisical2
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 50831
Founded: Mar 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:I've played Pandemic. I know what to do.

Move to Madagascar.

:rofl:
Because we all know they have the best quarantine procedures and no airports.
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.

User avatar
Central Slavia
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8451
Founded: Nov 05, 2009
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Central Slavia » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 pm

TB vaccination is the way to go , i guess.
Kosovo is Serbia!
Embassy Anthem Store Facts

Glorious Homeland wrote:
You would be wrong. There's something wrong with the Americans, the Japanese are actually insane, the Chinese don't seem capable of free-thought and just defer judgement to the most powerful strong man, the Russians are quite like that, only more aggressive and mad, and Belarus? Hah.

Omnicracy wrote:The Soviet Union did not support pro-Soviet governments, it compleatly controled them. The U.S. did not controle the corrupt regiems it set up against the Soviet Union, it just sugested things and changed leaders if they weer not takeing enough sugestions

Great Nepal wrote:Please stick to OFFICIAL numbers. Why to go to scholars,[cut]

User avatar
Trollgaard
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 9933
Founded: Mar 01, 2007
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Trollgaard » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:I'm not worried, I'm in good health, and well, if I catch it and it kills me, I probably deserved it.
I don't think its anything to worry about assuming you don't live in India, or in/around Iran, apparently.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163860
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:I've played Pandemic. I know what to do.

Move to Madagascar.

Too late, ports are already closed.
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Galloism
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 73175
Founded: Aug 20, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Galloism » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:07 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Dibs on Lack's stuff.

Theres not much, but you're welcome to anything I haven't drank or turned into drink yet.

Alcohol kills germs, you know.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


User avatar
Rhodmhire
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 17421
Founded: Jun 05, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Rhodmhire » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:08 pm

I need to get my passport ASAP else I'll never be able to get to Madagas -
Conserative Morality wrote:I've played Pandemic. I know what to do.

Move to Madagascar.

- son of a bitch, I thought I had that one in the bag.

Well I have nothing to contribute now. Sorry guys, he beat me fair and square.
Part of me grew up here. But part of growing up is leaving parts of ourselves behind.

User avatar
Saint Jade IV
Negotiator
 
Posts: 6441
Founded: Jul 02, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Saint Jade IV » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:08 pm

This is somewhat concerning.

One would hope that a greater focus is placed on eliminating these sorts of diseases, seeing as this is occurring more and more. :(
When you grow up, your heart dies.
It's my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of son of a b*tch or another.
RIP Dyakovo...we are all poorer for your loss.

User avatar
Mad Monarch
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1405
Founded: Nov 30, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Mad Monarch » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:09 pm

I bet it isn't fire proof. If the worst happens and it starts spreading uncontrollably, there is always the option of burning it out of existence.

User avatar
Ifreann
Post Overlord
 
Posts: 163860
Founded: Aug 07, 2005
Iron Fist Socialists

Postby Ifreann » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Theres not much, but you're welcome to anything I haven't drank or turned into drink yet.

Alcohol kills germs, you know.

I think I can hear it calling out "Challenge Accepted"
He/Him

beating the devil
we never run from the devil
we never summon the devil
we never hide from from the devil
we never

User avatar
Lackadaisical2
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 50831
Founded: Mar 03, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Lackadaisical2 » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Theres not much, but you're welcome to anything I haven't drank or turned into drink yet.

Alcohol kills germs, you know.

Yet another reason for my lack of concern. :P
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Proud member of the Vile Right-Wing Noodle Combat Division of the Imperialist Anti-Socialist Economic War Army Ground Force reporting in.

User avatar
Eboinland
Diplomat
 
Posts: 662
Founded: May 04, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Eboinland » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:Theres not much, but you're welcome to anything I haven't drank or turned into drink yet.

Alcohol kills germs, you know.


And so, Alcoholics repopulate the Earth.
"In War: Resolution. In Defeat: Defiance. In Victory: Magnanimity. In Peace: Goodwill."
-Winston Churchill
Not. My. Den!

User avatar
Neo Arcad
Postmaster-General
 
Posts: 11242
Founded: Jan 29, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Neo Arcad » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:10 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:My friends have all been buying gas masks.

I think it's time for me to get one.


Reminds me of a rough draft of a national emergency plan I caught wind of a year or two ago. It went like this.

Step 1: Get a helmet.
Step 2: Put the helmet on.
Step 3: Await further instructions.


THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is the product of the finest minds of DHS. Look upon it, and weep tears of joy, for your deaths will all be swift.
Ostroeuropa wrote:Two shirtless men on a pushback with handlebar moustaches and a kettle conquered India, at 17:04 in the afternoon on a Tuesday. They rolled the bike up the hill and demanded that the natives set about acquiring bureaucratic records.

Des-Bal wrote:Modern politics is a series of assholes and liars trying to be more angry than each other until someone lets a racist epithet slip and they all scatter like roaches.

NSLV wrote:Introducing the new political text from acclaimed author/yak, NEO ARCAD, an exploration of nuclear power in the Middle East and Asia, "Nuclear Penis: He Won't Call You Again".

This is the best region ever. You know you want it.

User avatar
New England and The Maritimes
Postmaster of the Fleet
 
Posts: 28872
Founded: Aug 13, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby New England and The Maritimes » Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:10 pm

So... we make new drugs.

This should serve as a warning to India to clean up its environment. People are unhealthy in India, and rampant pollution isn't helping anyone.
All aboard the Love Train. Choo Choo, honeybears. I am Ininiwiyaw Rocopurr:Get in my bed, you perfect human being.
Yesterday's just a memory

Soviet Haaregrad wrote:Some people's opinions are based on rational observations, others base theirs on imaginative thinking. The reality-based community ought not to waste it's time refuting delusions.

Also, Bonobos
Formerly Brandenburg-Altmark Me.

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ancientania, Atrito, Duvniask, Finland SSR, Glorious Freedonia, GMS Greater Miami Shores 1, Google [Bot], Hekp, Ioudaia, Ors Might, Pale Dawn, Plan Neonie, Tarsonis, The Black Forrest, The Kharkivan Cossacks, Tiami, Truchas, Tungstan, Umeria

Advertisement

Remove ads