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Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:51 pmby Daistallia 2104
Kirrig wrote:No. I find the English profession despicable. That said, I'm sure you are very good at your job. Thank you for finding that error.
Webster's may be respected, but I won't respect them until they can spell. Sounds hypocritical? I don't care, it just means I'm more qualified to know.
I find the leading paragraph quite difficult to understand. I'm fairly certain that 'defininmg' is 'defining' but a lot of the other errors are more complicated. That said, it is reasonable to assume that the 'it' does not refer to xenophobia given that it has been used twice with no break to introduce what 'it' is again.
Somewhat related questions: where are you from and are you a native English speaker?
From your earlier posts, it seems like you're from the Commonwealth, explaining your biases. However, your difficulties in understanding seem to imply you aren't a native speaker. (No insult intended, just trying to figure out what perspective you're coming from.)
And just a note: it may behoove you to learn the difference between a typo and a misspelling.
Posted:
Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:12 pmby Kirrig
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Kirrig wrote:No. I find the English profession despicable. That said, I'm sure you are very good at your job. Thank you for finding that error.
Webster's may be respected, but I won't respect them until they can spell. Sounds hypocritical? I don't care, it just means I'm more qualified to know.
I find the leading paragraph quite difficult to understand. I'm fairly certain that 'defininmg' is 'defining' but a lot of the other errors are more complicated. That said, it is reasonable to assume that the 'it' does not refer to xenophobia given that it has been used twice with no break to introduce what 'it' is again.
Somewhat related questions: where are you from and are you a native English speaker?
From your earlier posts, it seems like you're from the Commonwealth, explaining your biases. However, your difficulties in understanding seem to imply you aren't a native speaker. (No insult intended, just trying to figure out what perspective you're coming from.)
And just a note: it may
behove you to learn the difference between a typo and a misspelling.
I am a New Zealander. I am a native speaker. I think I wrote about that earlier in the topic.
Oh, I know
teh difference. That said 'a' is very far from 't'.
In this case the wiki has introduced a new subject, that is: the definition from the
Dictionary of Psychology.
Posted:
Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:16 pmby Daistallia 2104
Kirrig wrote:Daistallia 2104 wrote:And just a note: it may
behove behoove you to learn the difference between a typo and a misspelling.
Incorrectly attempting correction doesn't do much for your case.
Posted:
Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:29 pmby Kirrig
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Incorrectly attempting correction doesn't do much for your case.
Except when the 'correction' of the correction is incorrect.
Posted:
Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:34 pmby Natty Narwhal
I know some Hindi and Latin, Mandarin and Korean... but I'm not fluent in any of them. I'm learning Klingon right now, though.
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:47 pmby Saiwania
I am proudly monolingual. I just have no desire or motivation to learn languages that I find to be inferior. It wouldn't have helped me to learn Spanish or another foreign language because I would have forgotten it anyways from simply not using it. It should be available for those that want to learn a language, but should by no means be required unless strictly needed.
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:56 pmby Kirrig
Saiwania wrote:I am proudly monolingual. I just have no desire or motivation to learn languages that I find to be inferior. It wouldn't have helped me to learn Spanish or another foreign language because I would have forgotten it anyways from simply not using it. It should be available for those that want to learn a language, but should by no means be required unless strictly needed.
What makes a language inferior to another? That said I firmly believe that English will eat all other languages.
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:57 pmby The Blaatschapen
Kirrig wrote:Saiwania wrote:I am proudly monolingual. I just have no desire or motivation to learn languages that I find to be inferior. It wouldn't have helped me to learn Spanish or another foreign language because I would have forgotten it anyways from simply not using it. It should be available for those that want to learn a language, but should by no means be required unless strictly needed.
What makes a language inferior to another? That said I firmly believe that English will eat all other languages.
I don't. Unless it really transforms its spelling "rules".
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:03 amby Kirrig
The Blaatschapen wrote:Kirrig wrote:What makes a language inferior to another? That said I firmly believe that English will eat all other languages.
I don't. Unless it really transforms its spelling "rules".
English has demonstrated an ability to change possibly more than any language. That said, it has retained some French phrases and what not that are now very different in Frenach.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:12 amby Kirrig
The Blaatschapen wrote:Kirrig wrote:What makes a language inferior to another? That said I firmly believe that English will eat all other languages.
I don't. Unless it really transforms its spelling "rules".
The thing with eating other languages is that they become Anglicised. English can borrow from languages of all origins. Funnily enough, it is further from its roots than any of its cousins (Dutch, German etc.). I suppose, you are what you eat.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:13 amby The Blaatschapen
Kirrig wrote:The Blaatschapen wrote:I don't. Unless it really transforms its spelling "rules".
The thing with eating other languages is that they become Anglicised. English can borrow from languages of all origins. Funnily enough, it is further from its roots than any of its cousins (Dutch, German etc.). I suppose, you are what you eat.
And British cuisine isn't exactly known for being tasty.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:16 amby Kirrig
The Blaatschapen wrote:Kirrig wrote:The thing with eating other languages is that they become Anglicised. English can borrow from languages of all origins. Funnily enough, it is further from its roots than any of its cousins (Dutch, German etc.). I suppose, you are what you eat.
And British cuisine isn't exactly known for being tasty.
French propaganda. Fish and chips are delicious. Same goes with roast meals. If I've left anything out...
That said, I wish that I could speak another language. A very specific one to be honest.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:56 amby Hapes Consortium
My native country is Malaysia. All Malaysians know at least two languages, most know 3. So in order of usage, I would list:
1. English.
2. Tamil.
3. Malay.
4. Hindi.
5. Very bad Spanglish.
spoken by me. But then again, most of the other languages in here are being lost in a language shift to English, which is just sad.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:59 amby Kirrig
Hapes Consortium wrote:My native country is Malaysia. All Malaysians know at least two languages, most know 3. So in order of usage, I would list:
1. English.
2. Tamil.
3. Malay.
4. Hindi.
5. Very bad Spanglish.
spoken by me. But then again, most of the other languages in here are being lost in a language shift to English, which is just sad.
English consuming other languages in action. That said, I would like countries to retain their own languages.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:00 amby The Blaatschapen
Kirrig wrote:Hapes Consortium wrote:My native country is Malaysia. All Malaysians know at least two languages, most know 3. So in order of usage, I would list:
1. English.
2. Tamil.
3. Malay.
4. Hindi.
5. Very bad Spanglish.
spoken by me. But then again, most of the other languages in here are being lost in a language shift to English, which is just sad.
English consuming other languages in action. That said, I would like countries to retain their own languages.
What about the languages that don't have their own country?
Or countries with multiple languages?
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:00 amby Ovisterra
I suppose I'm trilingual, but my French and Irish are far from perfect.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:03 amby Kirrig
The Blaatschapen wrote:Kirrig wrote:English consuming other languages in action. That said, I would like countries to retain their own languages.
What about the languages that don't have their own country?
Or countries with multiple languages?
In the former case, let English consume them. In the latter, those countries are most vulnerable to the influence of European languages: they form useful lingua francas. Hopefully they will retain their multi-language state.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:10 amby Saiwania
Kirrig wrote:What makes a language inferior to another?
Nothing really, except maybe number of speakers and how widespread it is used. It was just my opinion. If I were say- Russian or Chinese, I'd probably prefer my own language as well. Since I am so used to English, I don't care for learning another language unless I needed it for everyday use- like if I were to work in diplomacy or for an intelligence agency.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:12 amby Solidarity for the people
Interpals
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:38 amby West Failure
I wish my interest in languages translated into the ability to learn them. Sadly I seem to be incapable of learning a second language. I did wonder if English does something to the brain that screws up the ability to learn other languages.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:59 amby The Blaatschapen
West Failure wrote:I wish my interest in languages translated into the ability to learn them. Sadly I seem to be incapable of learning a second language. I did wonder if English does something to the brain that screws up the ability to learn other languages.
It makes you lazy, because unconsciously you know that you don't really need another language
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:03 amby West Failure
The Blaatschapen wrote:West Failure wrote:I wish my interest in languages translated into the ability to learn them. Sadly I seem to be incapable of learning a second language. I did wonder if English does something to the brain that screws up the ability to learn other languages.
It makes you lazy, because unconsciously you know that you don't really need another language
Doesn't explain why 6 years of studying French, 3 years of Spanish, and 2 years of Latin never enabled me to do more than put together a couple of broken sentences. Maybe it was that bang on the head as a child.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:13 amby The Blaatschapen
West Failure wrote:The Blaatschapen wrote:It makes you lazy, because unconsciously you know that you don't really need another language
Doesn't explain why 6 years of studying French, 3 years of Spanish, and 2 years of Latin never enabled me to do more than put together a couple of broken sentences. Maybe it was that bang on the head as a child.
Or perhaps the way you learned it. The only reason why I speak English quite well is because I immersed myself in it (mostly by reading and listening though). I had 5 years of French classes, but believe me, I can't speak more than saying that the monkey is on the branch, the cat is on the chair and the mouse is underneath the table.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:36 amby Azarest
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Azarest wrote:Tamil Nadu.
And you?
I learned French and Hindi at school. English from books, Tamil at home. And bits of Malayalam from friends.
Went for Japanese classes for a year, and now, with uni, no time to go for German classes.
Lived in Mumbai before moving to the United States. Been all over North India, not so much the South. My definition of South India is anything below Goa.
Haha! That's my definition of the South as well. Sadly, I haven't seen beyond these areas except Kolkata.
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:42 amby Azarest
On English taking over:
One word - globalization.
Well, all this iterweb communication is global and a global medium is needed. Why was English chosen? I think it's because English was a tad more disperesed than other languages. (Thank the Brit colonialism?)
Mind you I say disperesed, not majority.
Why will it become even more popular? Same reason. People would like to communicate.
My native lang is Tamil, and staying where that's spoken by majority, I'm perfectly capable of thinking in English. My mind switches its language based on the germane.