Page 9 of 10

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:09 am
by The UK in Exile
Voerdeland wrote:
Cassadaigua wrote:
Character is extremely important and should always play a role. A person of bad character simply cannot be trusted to have this role and act appropriately when the camera isn't in front of them.

Because only evil people have extramarital affairs...


only evil people would bang on about family and christian values being the only moral way to live whilst conducting a 12 year affair.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:03 am
by Kommandoria
Herman Cain seemed like a terrible candidate to begin with (at least, in my opinion). BUT, the straw that broke the camel's back was when he was asked the following question during an interview...

Do you believe that China is a military threat to the United States?


To which he responded...

Eh, yes I do believe they are a military threat. They have been working on a nuclear program and may have nuclear weapons.


Yeahhh they've kinda had a nuclear program since the 60's.... :palm:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:31 pm
by Wikkiwallana
Hippostania wrote:This is a sad day. Herman Cain was the best presidential candidate after Mitt Romney. He had the courage and guts to say the things as they are, and not lie like most politicians. He was one of the few politicians who dared to say the truth about the OWS movement for example.
But yeah, this is quite sad. I would've loved to see Hermain Cain as the president of the United States :(

I missed it, what did he say about OWS?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:36 pm
by Wikkiwallana
Antizionistia wrote:
Zaras wrote:
Ron Paul is a racist who said the end of apartheid would represent "the demise of civilization", only "5% of black people have reasonable political views", implied that the 1992 LA riots ended when "blacks went to pick up their welfare checks again", repeatedly urged bigoted uneducated white people to carry guns in case they get attacked by "animals" (read: black people) and advocated that NYC be renamed to "Rapetown".

Oh, and he's also a homophobe. His only genius has been managing to hide just how batshit crazy he is for so long.



only one batshit here seems to be you sir ... you appear to be lieing on all accounts . and , as most people who FEAR ron as you seem to do , taking his words completely and totally out of context , Ron Paul is not racist , he is fair and simply wants Affirmative action to end as he is a STRICT CONSTITUTIONALIST .. :eyebrow: this is not racist, this is rationality .as for homophobe, do you even kno what your saying , Ron Paul supports states rights , if your state wants gay marriage fine, if not, move out ! if ya had santorum or any of the other neoclowns up there , youdhave gay marriage banned on a federal level . ya dont have to be a rocket scientisst to see the difference here :roll: ... Ron Paul all the way , genius in everything BUT hiding , thats what his opponents do :lol2: , anyway this is a hermain cain thread so once again, it was only a matter of time, cain could not handle the pressure, that simple, end of story . he could not and would not , ever be president.

For a "STRICT CONSTITUTIONALIST" he sure seems to hate the 1st, 14th, and 16th amendments, and openly wants to repeal the 17th.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:40 pm
by Wikkiwallana
Antizionistia wrote:
New Rogernomics wrote:I am more concerned about the degradation of the English language, in the past few posts. I would cry, if they aren't as a result of using a cellphone or another small mobile device. :(

As for the US constitution, there have been many amendments, thus it is not a static document. But people believing it is a static unchanging document amuses me. :lol:


you realize that people who defer commenting to ones grammar are usually trying to ' confensate' for somethin ;) .. , hah , so ya , please focus on me, not the carelessness of which i type , as i could obviously care less considering after all this is a FORUM , not a term paper :roll: . as for the constitution , no kiddin! as i said becore with slavery, it was NOT peerfect, but the basic cores and values of the constitution and it is this which must be safeguarded. But people believing that as a changed document ,it does not have certain central values and rights , has always served to entertain me :D

You really should care. If we can't understand you because you sound like the crazy homeless guy at the end of the street, we are likely to give you about the same amount of credibility.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:44 pm
by Wikkiwallana
Voerdeland wrote:Of course he was a terrible candidate, but I feel sympathy for him. No politician's love life should impact any electoral campaign, ever.

Not that this is the case here, but it certainly should if they are running on a platform such as "family values", "commitment", "fidelity", or "pro-marriage". After all, if they grossly violate a major component of their campaign, who's to say they won't do so for others?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:28 pm
by Cannot think of a name
Kommandoria wrote:Herman Cain seemed like a terrible candidate to begin with (at least, in my opinion). BUT, the straw that broke the camel's back was when he was asked the following question during an interview...

Do you believe that China is a military threat to the United States?


To which he responded...

Eh, yes I do believe they are a military threat. They have been working on a nuclear program and may have nuclear weapons.


Yeahhh they've kinda had a nuclear program since the 60's.... :palm:

This, I believe, is the lions share of what took Cain down, because again, you'll have a hard time convincing me it was infedelity if they candidate they shift to is Newt "I love my country so much it makes me cheat on and leave my wives" Gingrich. What did him in was the fact that he appears to have never looked at a map much less had any grasp whatsoever of foreign policy. Who a candidate fucks only appears to matter to members of the opposing political party.

What ended Cain wasn't women, it was that long period of silence when asked about a current event, when it became clear that even 'asking his experts' wouldn't matter if he didn't appear to have a clue as to what question to ask in the first place.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:13 pm
by Kommandoria
Cannot think of a name wrote:
Kommandoria wrote:Herman Cain seemed like a terrible candidate to begin with (at least, in my opinion). BUT, the straw that broke the camel's back was when he was asked the following question during an interview...



To which he responded...



Yeahhh they've kinda had a nuclear program since the 60's.... :palm:

This, I believe, is the lions share of what took Cain down, because again, you'll have a hard time convincing me it was infedelity if they candidate they shift to is Newt "I love my country so much it makes me cheat on and leave my wives" Gingrich. What did him in was the fact that he appears to have never looked at a map much less had any grasp whatsoever of foreign policy. Who a candidate fucks only appears to matter to members of the opposing political party.

What ended Cain wasn't women, it was that long period of silence when asked about a current event, when it became clear that even 'asking his experts' wouldn't matter if he didn't appear to have a clue as to what question to ask in the first place.

Exactly. Quite honestly, I believe Mitt Romney is America's only remaining hope. Herman Cain can't hold a candle to him. So what if Herman Cain committed an infidelity? Bill Clinton was arguably one of the best presidents in American history and he was accused of several sexual charges. While good morals and ethics is nice in a candidate, excellent knowledge of various political departments is much more important, and as of now, Herman Cain lacks both of those characteristics. Thank you for quoting me, CTOAN :bow: This is a rare but pleasant occurence.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:34 pm
by Farnhamia
Kommandoria wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:This, I believe, is the lions share of what took Cain down, because again, you'll have a hard time convincing me it was infedelity if they candidate they shift to is Newt "I love my country so much it makes me cheat on and leave my wives" Gingrich. What did him in was the fact that he appears to have never looked at a map much less had any grasp whatsoever of foreign policy. Who a candidate fucks only appears to matter to members of the opposing political party.

What ended Cain wasn't women, it was that long period of silence when asked about a current event, when it became clear that even 'asking his experts' wouldn't matter if he didn't appear to have a clue as to what question to ask in the first place.

Exactly. Quite honestly, I believe Mitt Romney is America's only remaining hope. Herman Cain can't hold a candle to him. So what if Herman Cain committed an infidelity? Bill Clinton was arguably one of the best presidents in American history and he was accused of several sexual charges. While good morals and ethics is nice in a candidate, excellent knowledge of various political departments is much more important, and as of now, Herman Cain lacks both of those characteristics. Thank you for quoting me, CTOAN :bow: This is a rare but pleasant occurence.

Mitt's the last best hope? Which Mitt? The one who was in favor of a health-care mandate or the one who is against it? The one who is pro-choice or the one who is against women having access to abortion services? The one who is in favor of a reasonable solution to immigration or the one who wants to deport them all? That's your problem right there. That and the way the Tea Party and the Far Right will force him to toe the party line, which is waaaaay over to the right of Barry Goldwater.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:31 pm
by Antilon
Kommandoria wrote:. So what if Herman Cain committed an infidelity? Bill Clinton was arguably one of the best presidents in American history and he was accused of several sexual charges. While good morals and ethics is nice in a candidate, excellent knowledge of various political departments is much more important, and as of now, Herman Cain lacks both of those characteristics.


Actually, Clinton was charged with perjury and obstruction of justice.

What Cain is accused of is sexual harassment.

Nonetheless, I agree that Hermain lacks, among many things, political/economic knowledge.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:33 pm
by Oldes
Pardon me if I'm not the first to say it, being so late in the thread, but...
That ain't the first thing he's pulled out of!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:10 pm
by New Heathera
I don't really care what happens now, but I was really looking forward to someone other than a democrat or republican as president.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:12 pm
by The Black Forrest
New Heathera wrote:I don't really care what happens now, but I was really looking forward to someone other than a democrat or republican as president.


You will be waiting a very long time.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:49 pm
by Augarundus
One step closer to Ron Paul rEVOLution

:trollface:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:51 pm
by The Akkadian Empire
Goodnight, Sweet Prince.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:56 pm
by Saiwania
I've decided I'm going to move my support to Newt Gingrich, because I don't have any choice. He's the only person in the Republican field who has a chance at the nomination asides from Romney, but I know I can't support Romney or Obama. If Romney gets the nomination, I'm abstaining from voting in 2012.
I doubt Romney's ability to rally and hold onto the conservative base. I'm almost certain he would lose to Obama.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:37 pm
by Cannot think of a name
Saiwania wrote:I've decided I'm going to move my support to Newt Gingrich, because I don't have any choice. He's the only person in the Republican field who has a chance at the nomination asides from Romney, but I know I can't support Romney or Obama. If Romney gets the nomination, I'm abstaining from voting in 2012.
I doubt Romney's ability to rally and hold onto the conservative base. I'm almost certain he would lose to Obama.

Right now, allowing for the fact that polls this early are little more than a novelty, Romney is the only one close.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:43 pm
by Great Nepal
Hippostania wrote:This is a sad day. Herman Cain was the best presidential candidate after Mitt Romney. He had the courage and guts to say the things as they are, and not lie like most politicians. He was one of the few politicians who dared to say the truth about the OWS movement for example.
But yeah, this is quite sad. I would've loved to see Hermain Cain as the president of the United States :(

Indeed, he was so good that he had full understanding of modern affairs. Oh wait, that isn't exactly true is it?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:44 pm
by The Murtunian Tribes
New Heathera wrote:I don't really care what happens now, but I was really looking forward to someone other than a democrat or republican as president.

Hold your breath. Go on, it's only a matter of time.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:19 am
by Theseonia
Great Nepal wrote:
Hippostania wrote:This is a sad day. Herman Cain was the best presidential candidate after Mitt Romney. He had the courage and guts to say the things as they are, and not lie like most politicians. He was one of the few politicians who dared to say the truth about the OWS movement for example.
But yeah, this is quite sad. I would've loved to see Hermain Cain as the president of the United States :(

Indeed, he was so good that he had full understanding of modern affairs. Oh wait, that isn't exactly true is it?



Libya?.....Lybia.....hmmmm........

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 2:21 am
by Grave_n_idle
Saiwania wrote:I've decided I'm going to move my support to Newt Gingrich, because I don't have any choice. He's the only person in the Republican field who has a chance at the nomination asides from Romney, but I know I can't support Romney or Obama. If Romney gets the nomination, I'm abstaining from voting in 2012.
I doubt Romney's ability to rally and hold onto the conservative base. I'm almost certain he would lose to Obama.


I think you're pulling that worry out of nowhere. The Conservative wing isn't going to flee Romney. The worst they might do is abstain on voting day.

It's the centrists, moderates, and swing-voters you have to worry about losing - those are the people who might cross sides if the candidate is objectionable.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:02 am
by Ashmoria
Saiwania wrote:I've decided I'm going to move my support to Newt Gingrich, because I don't have any choice. He's the only person in the Republican field who has a chance at the nomination asides from Romney, but I know I can't support Romney or Obama. If Romney gets the nomination, I'm abstaining from voting in 2012.
I doubt Romney's ability to rally and hold onto the conservative base. I'm almost certain he would lose to Obama.


i dont think you have factored in newt's first lady problem.

will the american voting public vote for a "whore" for first lady?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:55 am
by Farnhamia
Ashmoria wrote:
Saiwania wrote:I've decided I'm going to move my support to Newt Gingrich, because I don't have any choice. He's the only person in the Republican field who has a chance at the nomination asides from Romney, but I know I can't support Romney or Obama. If Romney gets the nomination, I'm abstaining from voting in 2012.
I doubt Romney's ability to rally and hold onto the conservative base. I'm almost certain he would lose to Obama.


i dont think you have factored in newt's first lady problem.

will the american voting public vote for a "whore" for first lady?

Indeed.

Some thoughts on the Republican race from today's Times.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:37 am
by Ashmoria
Farnhamia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
i dont think you have factored in newt's first lady problem.

will the american voting public vote for a "whore" for first lady?

Indeed.

Some thoughts on the Republican race from today's Times.

did you feel while reading that article that krugman wasnt telling you anything you didnt already know?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 8:39 am
by Farnhamia
Ashmoria wrote:

did you feel while reading that article that krugman wasnt telling you anything you didnt already know?

I suppose. Still, it needs saying and he said it concisely.