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What do you think about NSG?

This place was always a trollfest, trololol!
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This place used to be less idiotic.
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I object to you calling me a fool, I am a KING!
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Total votes : 52

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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:41 pm

This place isn't any more of a trollfest now than it was before. :roll:
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Postby Kiskaanak » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:42 pm

Bitchkitten wrote:Oh come on. I'd been jumped by Fass before. I lived. I didn't whine to the mods. I'm not sure, but I actually don't remember ever whining to the mods. Except when they wouldn't let me use a flame quote in my sig. It flamed me, after all.


No, when we fought they got personal and it did affect me, but we made up. That was different than him smacking down racists, homophobes, or other idiots.
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Nadkor
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:43 pm

Remember the old lingerie thread? Post numbers in the single figures now before it would be locked.

Sad times.
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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:44 pm

Nadkor wrote:Remember the old lingerie thread? Post numbers in the single figures now before it would be locked.

Sad times.

Some of the fonder mammaries of my teenage years came from that time :(
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Postby Hydesland » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:45 pm

Bitchkitten wrote:Oh come on. I'd been jumped by Fass before. I lived. I didn't whine to the mods. I'm not sure, but I actually don't remember ever whining to the mods. Except when they wouldn't let me use a flame quote in my sig. It flamed me, after all.


I'm not necessarily talking about flames or rule breaking here, you can be annoying and still be within the rules.

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Postby Bitchkitten » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:47 pm

Kiskaanak wrote:
Bitchkitten wrote:Oh come on. I'd been jumped by Fass before. I lived. I didn't whine to the mods. I'm not sure, but I actually don't remember ever whining to the mods. Except when they wouldn't let me use a flame quote in my sig. It flamed me, after all.


No, when we fought they got personal and it did affect me, but we made up. That was different than him smacking down racists, homophobes, or other idiots.

He was ragging on my weight and telling me walking six miles a day was wussy exercise.

Someone actually sent me this TG.
You're wasting your time on Fassitude. Please, stop responding to him before you post something the mods can act on. I don't want to see you get warned or banned.


I stiil found him a plus on the forum.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:49 pm

Serrland wrote:
Yootwopia wrote:The Hairless Kitten and some other shit posters going at it absolutely hammer and tongs for about 900 pages like maladjusted clones of Hitler on coke or something.


I vaguely remember Hairless Kitten from my first months here. He kept trying to come back in different incarnations and kept getting hit by the mods, if my memory holds.


I am actually sort of grateful to HK in a strange way. By pissing me off so much for such a long time he really helped unlock my inner precision-bitchslap practitioner. I would be a very different poster if HK had not been around.
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Postby Daistallia 2104 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:53 pm

Poll needs an option for "this place has improved". Back in 2003, NSG was a cesspit where postings of tub girl and goatse were a pretty regular occurance. The most dedicated trolls seem to have given up.
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Postby Steel and Fire » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:55 pm

Bitchkitten wrote:Oh, and I demand some of these people with names I don't recognize and recent join dates identify themselves if they're going to talk about way back when. :p

Pfft I've been around longer than you and I still recognise most of them :P

Nadkor wrote:Remember the old lingerie thread? Post numbers in the single figures now before it would be locked.

Sad times.

I will admit I'm highly disappointed by the apparent ban on all content that is vaguely sexual in nature.

But I'm even more disappointed by the fact that said content is also considered obscene in real life, so this forum's mods can hardly be blamed for it.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:00 pm

Anybody who thinks the quality of debate on NSG or the quality of posts on II has been in decline lately clearly was not here back in 2003.

Although, really, it's usually once every year or two (or sometimes more often) that we get a bunch of doomsayers talking about how SURELY, THIS TIME, NS is doomed to become a cesspit of memes and horrible RPing and how it's already on the path to becoming the new 4chan.

Funnily enough, people complain about basically the same things on 4chan. Although there it's usually trolling.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:02 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Anybody who thinks the quality of debate on NSG or the quality of posts on II has been in decline lately clearly was not here back in 2003.

Although, really, it's usually once every year or two (or sometimes more often) that we get a bunch of doomsayers talking about how SURELY, THIS TIME, NS is doomed to become a cesspit of memes and horrible RPing and how it's already on the path to becoming the new 4chan.

Funnily enough, people complain about basically the same things on 4chan. Although there it's usually trolling.

It generally comes from people who are leaving or have left and come back.
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Postby Kiskaanak » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:02 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:This place isn't any more of a trollfest now than it was before. :roll:


It would make sense for you to have that impression.

:lol2:
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:03 pm

Kiskaanak wrote:It would make sense for you to have that impression.

:lol2:

:roll:

Really, actually, I think this place has gone down in quality very recently.
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Postby Kiskaanak » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:04 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
I am actually sort of grateful to HK in a strange way. By pissing me off so much for such a long time he really helped unlock my inner precision-bitchslap practitioner. I would be a very different poster if HK had not been around.

Lord HK was a horrible troll. We had to ban his ass from UMP too. Changed the forum, but not for the worse.

There is no value in allowing people to deliberately attempt to tear a forum apart.
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New Nassrau
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Postby New Nassrau » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:04 pm

I swear, even since 2009, it has changed. I wouldn't say for the better either, yes, i feel the mods are stricter, but to me it is fine. The new pony craze is funny, and IC-ly, very interesting. To me, it is just all the politics and and things that are repeated over and over=very annoying.
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:05 pm

New Nassrau wrote:The new pony craze is funny

Really?
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Postby Kiskaanak » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:06 pm

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:Anybody who thinks the quality of debate on NSG or the quality of posts on II has been in decline lately clearly was not here back in 2003.

Although, really, it's usually once every year or two (or sometimes more often) that we get a bunch of doomsayers talking about how SURELY, THIS TIME, NS is doomed to become a cesspit of memes and horrible RPing and how it's already on the path to becoming the new 4chan.

Funnily enough, people complain about basically the same things on 4chan. Although there it's usually trolling.

Actually that's not what is being said.

I have actually probably started a thread with a similar topic every year I've been here. Probably not the first or second. But I haven't actually felt that I was wrong. This place is stupider, and you could see the progression. We lose good poster after good poster to the burnout of dealing with idiots.
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Postby OMGeverynameistaken » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:06 pm

Nadkor wrote:
New Nassrau wrote:The new pony craze is funny

Really?

The pony craze is just a craze. It's not any better or worse than when ever tinpot dictator on II had his own personal giant blender that he threw dissidents into.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:06 pm

Kiskaanak wrote:Actually that's not what is being said.

I have actually probably started a thread with a similar topic every year I've been here. Probably not the first or second. But I haven't actually felt that I was wrong. This place is stupider, and you could see it happen.

I think I can see a clear cause and effect.
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Postby New Nassrau » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:07 pm

Nadkor wrote:
New Nassrau wrote:The new pony craze is funny

Really?


what do you mean?
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-Torrocca and I are not dating
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Postby United Dependencies » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:07 pm

I came in just before the move from jolt. I miss some of the players that left during the transition(and some that left afterword).

It's not all bad. Some good posters that I liked made the transition, some posters from the pre-jolt days came back, and some good new posters showed up.

I will say this: for good or for ill, it does feel as if there has been a change after 2008 election/the move. Threads(imo) used to cast us into the GOP conservatives versus the American & Euro (more liberal) groups. Now it's more about economics. I think bendira has something to do with this.

I also really miss TCT and Hammurab. I also wish some posters woud post more.
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Postby Yootwopia » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:07 pm

New Nassrau wrote:The new pony craze is funny, and IC-ly, very interesting.

No.
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Postby Nadkor » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:08 pm

New Nassrau wrote:
Nadkor wrote:Really?


what do you mean?


I'm saying that it's about as funny as being repeatedly stabbed in the face with a rusty fork.
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Postby Kiskaanak » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:09 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Kiskaanak wrote:Actually that's not what is being said.

I have actually probably started a thread with a similar topic every year I've been here. Probably not the first or second. But I haven't actually felt that I was wrong. This place is stupider, and you could see it happen.

I think I can see a clear cause and effect.

Yes. It's like racism. It doesn't exist until you start to talk about it, and talking about it more makes racism worse. Exactly like that.
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Postby Bitchkitten » Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:09 pm

Nadkor wrote:
New Nassrau wrote:The new pony craze is funny

Really?

Ugh.

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