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Canada vs. America

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:35 pm
by The Left-Libertarian Hippies
Who do you think is better on lifestyle, healthcare, education, environment, politics, wealth, etc?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:41 pm
by Hassett
America Fuck Yeah!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:41 pm
by Greater Cabinda
Hassett wrote:America Fuck Yeah!

Some variation on the above. If for no reason other than nationalism.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:43 pm
by Mongolian Khanate
Canada, because we are a godforsaken hellish snowscape ruled by man-eating mooses overlords

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:45 pm
by South Norwega
I thought Canada was part of America...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:46 pm
by GreaterPacificNations
Mongolian Khanate wrote:Canada, because we are a godforsaken hellish snowscape ruled by man-eating mooses overlords

Your flag is confusing. I keep thinking you're Trotskylvania. I was like : "Is Trotskylvania Canadian...?"

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 pm
by Mongolian Khanate
GreaterPacificNations wrote:
Mongolian Khanate wrote:Canada, because we are a godforsaken hellish snowscape ruled by man-eating mooses overlords

Your flag is confusing. I keep thinking you're Trotskylvania. I was like : "Is Trotskylvania Canadian...?"


He's my twin.

He's the annoying left wing one, I'm the annoying right wing one.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 pm
by Nightkill the Emperor
Canada.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:49 pm
by Aeronos
Depends on what parts. I mean, I'd choose almost anywhere in the US over Alberta, Sasketchewan, Northern Territories, Yukon, Newfoundland or Nunavut. But I'd sooner take Toronto or Montreal over most of America.

Presently:
Lifestyle: Canada. America's government is too encroaching of social freedoms.
Health Care: Um. Wow, that's difficult. Canada's NHS is bureaucracy-choked with private health care outlawed, America's health care system is corrupt and expensive but higher quality... I myself require both NHS and private at present, so neither of these is good really >_<
Education: Standard, Canada. Higher, America.
Environment: Canada. But who gives a shit? I'd sooner a city than the rurals.
Politics: Canada, although Harper's making damn sure that changes fast.
Wealth: America. That's almost no competition.

America, sort your act together. A libertarian shouldn't be choosing Canada over America on most of these things! :(

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:49 pm
by 1000 Cats
Having spent an extended time in both, Canada is far superior in my opinion. Nicer people, less in-your-face religion and politics, arguably more civil rights. Also, the healthcare system really is just about perfect in comparison, and the education system is underestimated sorely (although I hear that both its and the US's are plummeting as of late).

Also, Canadian politics are a lot more fun. American politics are like watching the special olympics. With only two competitors.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:50 pm
by Avenio
The Canadian ubermensch will soon sweep out of the North and devour the world in a thousand-year reign of darkness, as decreed by Dear Leader Harper from his fortress at Barad-dûr, also known as Calgary. So Canada, obviously.

Aeronos wrote:Health Care: Um. Wow, that's difficult. Canada's NHS is bureaucracy-choked with private health care outlawed, America's health care system is corrupt and expensive but higher quality... I myself require both NHS and private at present, so neither of these is good really >_<


Ehh, it's not really that simple. From what I'm aware of, views on privatization varies based upon province; here in BC, for example, it's allowed and is fairly common.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:50 pm
by Mongolian Khanate
Aeronos wrote:Depends on what parts. I mean, I'd choose almost anywhere in the US over Alberta, Sasketchewan, Northern Territories, Yukon, Newfoundland or Nunavut. But I'd sooner take Toronto or Montreal over most of America.

Presently:
Lifestyle: Canada. America's government is too encroaching of social freedoms.
Health Care: Um. Wow, that's difficult. Canada's NHS is bureaucracy-choked with private health care outlawed, America's health care system is corrupt and expensive but higher quality... I myself require both NHS and private at present, so neither of these is good really >_<
Education: Standard, Canada. Higher, America.
Environment: Canada. But who gives a shit? I'd sooner a city than the rurals.
Politics: Canada, although Harper's making damn sure that changes fast.
Wealth: America. That's almost no competition.

America, sort your act together. A libertarian shouldn't be choosing Canada over America on most of these things! :(


Private Health Care is not outlawed everywhere. Quebec has a triving "grey area" private healthcare.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:53 pm
by GreaterPacificNations
Mongolian Khanate wrote:
He's my twin.

He's the annoying left wing one, I'm the annoying right wing one.

lol

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:53 pm
by Aeronos
Mongolian Khanate wrote:Private Health Care is not outlawed everywhere. Quebec has a triving "grey area" private healthcare.

Je ne parle pas français :\

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:55 pm
by Olthar
I thought this was going to be a thread about anthropomorphized versions of America and Canada throwing down in a fist fight.

I am disappoint.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:56 pm
by Mongolian Khanate
Aeronos wrote:
Mongolian Khanate wrote:Private Health Care is not outlawed everywhere. Quebec has a triving "grey area" private healthcare.

Je ne parle pas français :\


Who cares? You can get around pretty much everywhere in montreal only with your english.

The only downside is being accused of british imperialism daily

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:56 pm
by Nightkill the Emperor
Olthar wrote:I thought this was going to be a thread about anthropomorphized versions of America and Canada throwing down in a fist fight.

I am disappoint.

That would be America.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:56 pm
by NewIndependentcanada
Canada all the way man! Stephen Harper will lead Canada in a path of glory when we take over the world!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:58 pm
by Aeronos
Mongolian Khanate wrote:The only downside is being accused of british imperialism daily

Being British myself... v_v

Also "grey area"?! Do you mean that as in "Thriving black market"? ;)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:59 pm
by Olthar
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Olthar wrote:I thought this was going to be a thread about anthropomorphized versions of America and Canada throwing down in a fist fight.

I am disappoint.

That would be America.

Eh, don't rule out Canada entirely. It's got a size advantage. It is the second biggest country out there.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:00 pm
by Avenio
NewIndependentcanada wrote:Canada all the way man! Stephen Harper will lead Canada in a path of glory when we take over the world!


Indeed. Once the Dark One has gathered his strength from the icy wastes and assembled his army of Albertans fell beasts and dark creatures, our glory will blot out the sun and drown the world in our might for a thousand thousand years.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:02 pm
by Mongolian Khanate
Aeronos wrote:
Mongolian Khanate wrote:The only downside is being accused of british imperialism daily

Being British myself... v_v

Also "grey area"?! Do you mean that as in "Thriving black market"? ;)


No no, a black market would mean it is against the law.

A grey market means no one knows what the fuck to do with it, because it is a relatively recent phenomenon and does not violate current healthcare law. So technically, it is not against the law.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:03 pm
by The Left-Libertarian Hippies
Canadian politics always seems to me as open to new things, and not just bland liberal and bland conservative. Also, I've always wanted to go to Vancouver...

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:03 pm
by New Manvir
Canada because I'm from there, and we have social services that aren't utter shit.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:04 pm
by NewIndependentcanada
Avenio wrote:
NewIndependentcanada wrote:Canada all the way man! Stephen Harper will lead Canada in a path of glory when we take over the world!


Indeed. Once the Dark One has gathered his strength from the icy wastes and assembled his army of Albertans fell beasts and dark creatures, our glory will blot out the sun and drown the world in our might for a thousand thousand years.


Yes there will be a new world order. Russia and Canada will come together in the Union of the Two Towers.......