How do you feel about Rape Jokes?

[Jagalonia]

You mean like that time I raped-...Nevermind.

I find the following joke types fucking hillarious:
Rape
Jews
Dead babies
Racism
More to follow.

I like to laugh at people when they're trying to get a serious point across regarding taboo subjects. Nothing throws someone off when you start laughing during a therapy session for people with relatives killed in car accidents.

Not that I actually think those things are funny, of course.

The point being that anything funny is worth laughing at. Laughing at taboo subjects, to me, helps take the 'taboo' away from them, and pulls the issue out of the darkness. Better to laugh at something awful than to let it quietly fester in the darkness.

What? I just legitimately find those topics of conversation funny...>.>

[Conserative Morality]

Oh God now one of the Mods has gone pony...can nothing save us from this madness

Far from the first, friend.

[Farnhamia]

The disingenuity is in justifying them by saying they're funny if well executed. There's an element of schadenfreude involved, taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune, and that is what you're doing when you laugh at a rape joke.

Erm, alright? So where's the problem?

Much of comedy is based upon laughing at the misfortune of others. A joke is funny if it is well-done. If a joke is not well-done, it is not funny. It's that simple. Are you denying that a joke must be well-done in order to be funny? That's what it looks like to me, in all honesty. You're objecting to justifying rape jokes by saying they're funny if well executed. The alternative being someone saying that they're funny if poorly executed?

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and rape jokes are decidedly not silk purses.

I don't see how this is relevant.

A joke about someone slipping on a banana peel is funny. A joke about forcibly shoving your cock into an unwilling woman's vagina isn't, really. And saying, "Yes, yes, it was a joke about a nasty bit of violence, but it was so well-delivered, I couldn't help but laugh," is trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. It would be much more honest to say that you enjoy laughing at someone else's misfortune and physical violation. I wouldn't like to hear that, either, but it would be honest.

[Oterro]

Everything can be funny, it depends how you go about convening the humour.

[Bakakishtan]

Sure. I mean, I don't find most of them funny only because I've heard a ton of them and they get old but it's a joke and should not be taken seriously. If someone gets offended by a rape joke then they sure as hell better get offended by jokes about death or pain or even racism. It really pisses me off to see someone laugh at a joke about dead babies or dead people but when it comes to rape they lose their fricken' mind.

[Meryuma]

Alright, let's assume rape is magnitudes upon magnitudes worse than murder. Let's assume it's a sin equivalent to genocide, for the sake of argument. I laugh at holocaust jokes if done well. Thus, where is the disingenuity in laughing at well-executed rape jokes?

The disingenuity is in justifying them by saying they're funny if well executed. There's an element of schadenfreude involved, taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune, and that is what you're doing when you laugh at a rape joke. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and rape jokes are decidedly not silk purses.

I've heard at least one joke involving rape that wasn't about taking pleasure in someone's misfortune. Generally they're douchey though, and can be really alienating (the constant rape jokes are basically why I don't like Tyler the Creator more, for instance).

[Dumb Ideologies]

Yes. They can be amusing.

But I equally understand that there are others who do not find them to be so, for good reason, whether it be differing values or personal experience. They are not something I would just throw out there regardless of context with people I do not know.

I have a rather dark sense of humour, but I don't think it is fair for me to expect others to necessarily share that and would not want to make them feel uncomfortable.

[Oterro]

I like to laugh at people when they're trying to get a serious point across regarding taboo subjects. Nothing throws someone off when you start laughing during a therapy session for people with relatives killed in car accidents.

Not that I actually think those things are funny, of course.

The point being that anything funny is worth laughing at. Laughing at taboo subjects, to me, helps take the 'taboo' away from them, and pulls the issue out of the darkness. Better to laugh at something awful than to let it quietly fester in the darkness.

What? I just legitimately find those topics of conversation funny...>.>

You're a sociopath?

[Conserative Morality]

A joke about someone slipping on a banana peel is funny.

A joke about someone getting shot multiple times and dying because of it can be funny.

A joke about someone starting a nuclear war because of sexual insecurity can be funny.

Violence, death, murder, violation of rights, torture, all can be funny if done right.

A joke about forcibly shoving your cock into an unwilling woman's vagina isn't, really.

If done poorly? No, of course not. And why is it always a woman being violated, hmm?

And saying, "Yes, yes, it was a joke about a nasty bit of violence, but it was so well-delivered, I couldn't help but laugh," is trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. It would be much more honest to say that you enjoy laughing at someone else's misfortune and physical violation. I wouldn't like to hear that, either, but it would be honest.

"Yes yes, it was a joke about a nasty bit of violence, but it was well-done so I didn't really mind and found it quite funny." would be closer.

[Spartan Philidelphia]

Only rape jokes that are funny are funny.

[Jagalonia]

What? I just legitimately find those topics of conversation funny...>.>

You're a sociopath?

...I guess.....Maybe....I'm not sure, I havn't gone to a head doctor to get it checked out.

[The-German-Volk]

As long as it's a good joke then sure.

It's not your place to say what people can or cannot joke about. (though of course if someone in hearing range asks you to not do it you should respect their will and speak lower/move away/etc.)

[Oterro]

You're a sociopath?

...I guess.....Maybe....I'm not sure, I havn't gone to a head doctor to get it checked out.

If you saw someone being raped, you would find this amusing? Or if someone told you about how their Xrelative died in a car crash, this would amuse you?

[Genivaria]

Most of the time its not, but there are exceptions.
It usually goes under VERY dark humor.

[Hydesland]

Anything can be funny.

[Oterro]

Most of the time its not, but there are exceptions.
It usually goes under VERY dark humor.

Have a scale I can borrow?

[Genivaria]

Most of the time its not, but there are exceptions.
It usually goes under VERY dark humor.

Have a scale I can borrow?

Man raping woman = Depressing
Woman raping Man OR Man raping Man = Funny
Woman molesting woman = Hot.

Values Dissonance much?
Note: these are not my views, thats how society responds to it.

[The-German-Volk]

Man raping Man = Funny

This is the first time I hear someone think it's funny.

Is it something women like, similarly to men with lesbians?

[Oterro]

Man raping woman = Depressing
Woman raping Man OR Man raping Man = Funny
Woman molesting woman = Hot.

I saw this and inhaled.

Note: these are not my views, thats how society responds to it.

Then exhaled in relief.

Rape is wrong regardless of the genders involved. As you well know.

[Norstal]

A simple question: Do you find rape jokes funny?

I wanted NSG opinion on this after a recent debate/argument with a friend.
I only sometimes find them funny because of me and my friend's tasteless humour.

Jokes usually involves fictional characters. So, sure, it can be funny.

Jokes about rape involving real people though, no, of course not.

[Genivaria]

Man raping Man = Funny

This is the first time I hear someone think it's funny.

Is it something women like, similarly to men with lesbians?

Uh, I don't think its funny.

Note: these are not my views, thats how society responds to it.

[Norstal]

Man raping Man = Funny

This is the first time I hear someone think it's funny.

Is it something women like, similarly to men with lesbians?

Maybe you should keep reading.

[The Matthew Islands]

Man raping Man = Funny

This is the first time I hear someone think it's funny.

Actually no. Just look at all the prison rape jokes. They aren't referring to Female prisoners either.

[Genivaria]

This is the first time I hear someone think it's funny.

Is it something women like, similarly to men with lesbians?

Maybe you should keep reading.

Thank you.

[The-German-Volk]

This is the first time I hear someone think it's funny.

Is it something women like, similarly to men with lesbians?

Uh, I don't think its funny.

Note: these are not my views, thats how society responds to it.

Well as far as I know society does not find gays funny.

At all. Even on comedy shows I've seen maybe 3 or 4 gay jokes total and they do really bad.