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Postby Osarius » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:58 pm

Serrland wrote:Aston Villa captain Stiliyan Petrov has acute leukaemia

Tough news... hate to see this happen to anyone. I lost a close friend to leukaemia just a few weeks ago, and can't begin to imagine what he and those close to him have got to be feeling. Thoughts and prayers are with him, his family, his friends, and his teammates as he faces the battle ahead.

Hopefully, he'll win this battle. Just won't be the same watching Villa without the threat of another epic goal from the man.

Great to see all the support, though. Also, there's only one Stiliyan Petrov, one Stiliyan Petrov, one Stiliyan Peeetrooov!
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:16 am

God, the boos in the Liverpool-Newcastle match are deafening. Carroll, Bellamy, Enrique and then Henderson when he came on.

And now Liverpool's season has gone from bad to worse. :p
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Postby Cromarty » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:43 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:God, the boos in the Liverpool-Newcastle match are deafening. Carroll, Bellamy, Enrique and then Henderson when he came on.

And now Liverpool's season has gone from bad to worse. :p

Yay.
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Postby Serrland » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:47 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:God, the boos in the Liverpool-Newcastle match are deafening. Carroll, Bellamy, Enrique and then Henderson when he came on.

And now Liverpool's season has gone from bad to worse. :p


Hey, Kenny, here's some advice for you.

The end of this season, quit at Liverpool. Let someone young take over. Then, talk to the SFA and drop some hint of interest in the Scotland job. Levein will be out quicker than you can count to three. Take that job, boyo!

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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:03 pm

We're gonna win the league
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Postby Utopia FTW » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:13 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:We're gonna win the league
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20th!
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:20 pm

Utopia FTW wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:We're gonna win the league
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20th!


the league is still way open. we just have a bloody good chance to prove that buying the league doesn't always work. :)

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Postby Nazis in Space » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:18 pm

Five out eight semifinal teams in Europe are spanish.

So much rape :<

So much for 'La Liga only has two good teams' :o
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:34 pm

Nazis in Space wrote:Five out eight semifinal teams in Europe are spanish.

So much rape :<

So much for 'La Liga only has two good teams' :o


Sorry. England will try harder next year.

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Postby Cromarty » Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:48 pm

Nazis in Space wrote:So much for 'La Liga only has two good teams' :o

How many of those teams have a realistic chance of winning La Liga?

It's a boring league that's designed to ensure Barcelona or Real Madrid will always win it.
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Postby Lacadaemon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:00 am

It's important on this Good Friday football fans remember the long haired man who suffered and died on the end of a cross. Happy Easter Andy Carroll.
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Postby HC Eredivisie » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:36 am

Nazis in Space wrote:Five out eight semifinal teams in Europe are spanish.

So much rape :<

So much for 'La Liga only has two good teams' :o

Or the rest of Europe has even worse teams. :unsure:
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Postby Nazis in Space » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:59 am

Cromarty wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:So much for 'La Liga only has two good teams' :o

How many of those teams have a realistic chance of winning La Liga?

It's a boring league that's designed to ensure Barcelona or Real Madrid will always win it.
Point is, even the teams with no chance of winning the league are competitive in Europe~
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:10 am

Nazis in Space wrote:
Cromarty wrote:How many of those teams have a realistic chance of winning La Liga?

It's a boring league that's designed to ensure Barcelona or Real Madrid will always win it.
Point is, even the teams with no chance of winning the league are competitive in Europe~

So... just like England two, three years ago.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:12 am

Cromarty wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:Point is, even the teams with no chance of winning the league are competitive in Europe~

So... just like England two, three years ago.


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Postby Nazis in Space » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:34 am

Cromarty wrote:
Nazis in Space wrote:Point is, even the teams with no chance of winning the league are competitive in Europe~

So... just like England two, three years ago.
You're missing the point. A fairly regular claim is that La Liga is, on average, piss-weak - barring the two top dogs, obviously.

This claim is seemingly wrong.

getit?
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:46 am

Lacadaemon wrote:It's important on this Good Friday football fans remember the long haired man who suffered and died on the end of a cross. Happy Easter Andy Carroll.

:rofl: :bow:
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:53 am

Nazis in Space wrote:
Cromarty wrote:So... just like England two, three years ago.
You're missing the point. A fairly regular claim is that La Liga is, on average, piss-weak - barring the two top dogs, obviously.

This claim is seemingly wrong.

getit?

/me hasn't seem anyone claim that.
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Postby Cyborg Holland » Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:59 am

Lacadaemon wrote:It's important on this Good Friday football fans remember the long haired man who suffered and died on the end of a cross. Happy Easter Andy Carroll.


Damn. Hilarious. Sigged...

And there are quite a few handy teams in La Liga. Barça, Real, Villarael, Seville, Valencia, Athletcio Madrid, but the Premier League has always, and will always be the best league in the world. The only nationalities that play in La Liga are Spainards, the Portuguese and South Americans, everyone else goes to play in the PL
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Postby Central Lothian » Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:57 am

Lacadaemon wrote:It's important on this Good Friday football fans remember the long haired man who suffered and died on the end of a cross. Happy Easter Andy Carroll.


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Postby I V Stalin » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:18 am

Cyborg Holland wrote:
Lacadaemon wrote:It's important on this Good Friday football fans remember the long haired man who suffered and died on the end of a cross. Happy Easter Andy Carroll.


Damn. Hilarious. Sigged...

And there are quite a few handy teams in La Liga. Barça, Real, Villarael, Seville, Valencia, Athletcio Madrid, but the Premier League has always, and will always be the best league in the world. The only nationalities that play in La Liga are Spainards, the Portuguese and South Americans, everyone else goes to play in the PL

Except for the Germans, Dutch, Mexicans, French, Ivorians...

Besides, Spain, Portugal and South American countries make up five of the current top eight in both the FIFA and Elo world rankings.

And...maybe there's a link between the vast number of Spanish players in the Spanish league and the fact that Spain are reigning World and European champions? While teams like City, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea often have only two or three English players in their starting elevens.
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Postby Cromarty » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:22 am

I V Stalin wrote:
Cyborg Holland wrote:
Damn. Hilarious. Sigged...

And there are quite a few handy teams in La Liga. Barça, Real, Villarael, Seville, Valencia, Athletcio Madrid, but the Premier League has always, and will always be the best league in the world. The only nationalities that play in La Liga are Spainards, the Portuguese and South Americans, everyone else goes to play in the PL

Except for the Germans, Dutch, Mexicans, French, Ivorians...

Besides, Spain, Portugal and South American countries make up five of the current top eight in both the FIFA and Elo world rankings.

And...maybe there's a link between the vast number of Spanish players in the Spanish league and the fact that Spain are reigning World and European champions? While teams like City, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea often have only two or three English players in their starting elevens.

There's only so many Spanish players in the Spanish league because, outside of Barcelona, Real Madrid and teams like Malaga who have recently become cash-heavy, they can't afford differently.

Which is, yet again, down to La Liga being set up to ensure that Barcelona or Real Madrid will always win it.

Why do you think Athletico Madrid had to sell Aguero and Torres and Valencia had to sell Mata, Silva, Albiol and Villa? Because they almost bankrupted themselves trying to break the inherently unfair hegemony that is killing the Spanish domestic game.
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Postby I V Stalin » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:14 pm

Cromarty wrote:
I V Stalin wrote:Except for the Germans, Dutch, Mexicans, French, Ivorians...

Besides, Spain, Portugal and South American countries make up five of the current top eight in both the FIFA and Elo world rankings.

And...maybe there's a link between the vast number of Spanish players in the Spanish league and the fact that Spain are reigning World and European champions? While teams like City, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea often have only two or three English players in their starting elevens.

There's only so many Spanish players in the Spanish league because, outside of Barcelona, Real Madrid and teams like Malaga who have recently become cash-heavy, they can't afford differently.

Which is, yet again, down to La Liga being set up to ensure that Barcelona or Real Madrid will always win it.

Why do you think Athletico Madrid had to sell Aguero and Torres and Valencia had to sell Mata, Silva, Albiol and Villa? Because they almost bankrupted themselves trying to break the inherently unfair hegemony that is killing the Spanish domestic game.

It is not 'set up' that way, it has developed to this point. Helped, I might add, by teams such as Atletico Madrid and Valencia, who recently agreed to a collective tv deal which gives 35% of the total pot to Real Madrid and Barcelona. It's hardly the Clasico clubs' fault, either. What are they meant to do, turn down millions of Euro to give to their competitors?

Also, Atletico aren't exactly helped by being run by a succession of nutters. 50+ managers in 30 years is not exactly a solid foundation for success. Not that Jesus Gil was known for solid foundations. Shutting down your youth academy is also pretty stupid...more so when it means Raul goes to Real Madrid for nothing. Imagine if a Barca president decided to shut down La Masia. From what I've read, Cerezo and Gil Marin aren't much better - certainly when it comes to giving managers a chance.
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