Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:57 pmAnd what would the diference with marriage be
?And what would the diference with marriage be
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:57 pmAnd what would the diference with marriage be
?Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:59 pmPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:03 pmBut getting government out of marriage does not "protect" it in any way. On the contrary even - since there are religions out there that promote polygamous marriages, gay marriages, childmarriages, arranged mariages etc. etc. - and all would have the exact same right to call their little ceremony "marriage".
So that would be silly
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:04 pmCeannairceach wrote:My guess: The word, and therefore, the ability to protect the institution.
The question is, why would naming homosexual marriage "civil union" would protect the institution of marriage? No one has been able to answer that.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:04 pmThere is nothing wrong with gay marraige people have the right to chose who they want to marry. Also some people are naturlly born gay so you cant do anything about that.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:05 pmBeing that state sanctioned Marriages started off as Racist. Why should ANY Marriages be recognized by the Criminals? 
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:05 pmThe Alma Mater wrote:Ceannairceach wrote:My guess: The word, and therefore, the ability to protect the institution.
But getting government out of marriage does not "protect" it in any way. On the contrary even - since there are religions out there that promote polygamous marriages, gay marriages, childmarriages, arranged mariages etc. etc. - and all would have the exact same right to call their little ceremony "marriage".
So that would be silly
It's a pathetic attempt to appease the bigots.
But why should we appease the bigots? What's wrong with gay marriage?
The sad thing is that I know that next year when PP comes to power, they're going to try to criminalise gay marriage, but I hope that that won't fly with the Spanish public.
They'll also probably criminalise abortion again, but that I don't mind.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:06 pmMilitia Alliance wrote:Being that state sanctioned Marriages started off as Racist. Why should ANY Marriages be recognized by the Criminals?
Thank goodness Loving vs. Virginia made a precedent change.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:07 pmPersonally I am against gay marriage 100%. But that is in my life. If people around me that are gay and want to get married, by all means go for it. >___> Government is just too involved in our daily lives.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:07 pmKeronians wrote:They'll also probably criminalise abortion again, but that I don't mind.
You like women going into back alleys to get abortions from unqualified people with unsterile equipment ?
We already had that situation in the past. It is not pretty.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:08 pmMilitia Alliance wrote:Being that state sanctioned Marriages started off as Racist. Why should ANY Marriages be recognized by the Criminals?
You're always so angry. Everything will be alright once we have world government. Chill.
And they should be allowed to marry.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:08 pmI'm against gay marraige, gives me an excuse to still live a swinger lifestyle ;P
Just kidding of course, I want to be able to marry my man so I'm all for gay marraige. :3
Just kidding of course, I want to be able to marry my man so I'm all for gay marraige. :3
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:09 pmas long as they dont force it on me or rub it in my face im good.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:10 pmAnything to have the government invade your personal space.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:11 pmGerman Democratic Republic wrote:as long as they dont force it on me or rub it in my face im good.
"Rub it in [your] face"?
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:12 pmWhen gays get married, it is a tradition that they rub their penises or vaginas on straight people.
What, didn't you know? That's why people want gay marriage banned.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:19 pmCthag-antil wrote:Communist Winnipeg wrote:Personally, I find the idea of male/male sex revolting, but I have several gay & lebian friends. I also dislike yogurt, but have friends that eat that in front of me!!!
Have you ever had sexual contact with another member of the same gender?
If not then you are making an assumption...
I have not eaten a live spider, but I don't think I'd like that either, and don't plan to try it in the near future.
A few weeks ago a gay young man whom I work with asked me out for a 'drink'...very pretty he is, for a few brief seconds I actually considered the proposition.
I only turned him down in the end because I doubt the missus would be best pleased...not to mention he was about 15 years younger than me..but not without some regret.
To be fair the signals were a bit confusing because the lad dresses quite effeminately and has a very feminine counternance..but should I have been single and given a few shots of vodka maybe...I think I could have shagged him.
Am I bi?
Possibly...but then I don't see sexuality as a black and white issue..more a spectrum of inclinations.
I had drinks with a couple of gay friends yesterday. Drinking with gays does not make you gay. Oddly, one of my gay friends is really very uncomfortable around the effeminately type you mentioned.
Back to OT, there is absolutely no legal reason that same sex couples shouldn't be allowed to marry.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:27 pmI don't recall that happening in 2009, when abortion was illegal.
Anyway, this is about gay marriage. My bad for mentioning abortion.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:36 pmI've gone back and forth on this one, but right now I'd say I am pro-gay Marriage, since I cannot see a strong argument against it. However, I do not think Churches should be forced to perform gay marriages.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:38 pmZikelet wrote:There is nothing wrong with gay marraige people have the right to chose who they want to marry. Also some people are naturlly born gay so you cant do anything about that.
Some people are naturally born gay? That draws up two questions:
a) Are there gay people who were not born?
b) Are there people who just wake up one morning and say "Gee. I think I'll be gay today."?
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:40 pmThe Romulan Republic wrote:I've gone back and forth on this one, but right now I'd say I am pro-gay Marriage, since I cannot see a strong argument against it. However, I do not think Churches should be forced to perform gay marriages.
But they should be allowed to if they want
?Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:40 pmwhat are you on about? 2009?
Anyway, this is about gay marriage. My bad for mentioning abortion.
ayup not an abortion thread.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:43 pmSimon Cowell of the RR wrote:Zikelet wrote:There is nothing wrong with gay marraige people have the right to chose who they want to marry. Also some people are naturlly born gay so you cant do anything about that.
Some people are naturally born gay? That draws up two questions:
a) Are there gay people who were not born?
b) Are there people who just wake up one morning and say "Gee. I think I'll be gay today."?
If b) were possible, that would imply that one could control who one is attracted to.
That would be awesome. "Today, I am going to like blondes ! Tomorrow... dunno yet
"Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:43 pmPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:44 pmThe Romulan Republic wrote:However, I do not think Churches should be forced to perform gay marriages.
And, for the billionth time in this thread, that wouldn't happen with the legalization of homosexual marriage. Its not an issue at all here, as churches in the United States, at least, have never been forced to provide marriage services.