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Seriously? I think Israel would accept peace, if anyone were interested in it. Right now, the Arabs/Palestinians are waiting for the world to legitimize their blood lust. You can't have peace when the other side won't accept that you've been there for 60 years and are a legitimate state.

Angleter wrote:

Malgrave wrote:The Prime Minister of Palestine for being an undemocratic, power-hungry idiot and not calling accepting the results of the last elections.

He's the main reason why Palestine has a decent-ish chance of peace right now, and was only appointed after Hamas were defenestrated from government by Mahmoud Abbas- the President- who was well within his rights as President to do so.

...you didn't read any of the link I posted earlier, I take it.....

Druidville wrote:Seriously? I think Israel would accept peace, if anyone were interested in it. Right now, the Arabs/Palestinians are waiting for the world to legitimize their blood lust. You can't have peace when the other side won't accept that you've been there for 60 years and are a legitimate state.

The Palestinians have been there a lot longer than sixty years.

All sides, I guess, though...

Gauntleted Fist wrote:Why can't we get on to the process of resolving the stalemate and quit bitching about whose fault it is?

^^This. So much.

Gauntleted Fist wrote:Why can't we get on to the process of resolving the stalemate and quit bitching about whose fault it is?

^This

The religious right on both sides.

The majority of Israelis seek compromise, though the Ultra-Orthodox Ultra-Zionist minority is over-represented in the Knesset. I don't know as much about the government in Palestine, so I can't make a judgement.

Angleter wrote:

Malgrave wrote:The Prime Minister of Palestine for being an undemocratic, power-hungry idiot and not calling accepting the results of the last elections.

He's the main reason why Palestine has a decent-ish chance of peace right now, and was only appointed after Hamas were defenestrated from government by Mahmoud Abbas- the President- who was well within his rights as President to do so.

Except it wasn't, under their system the outgoing Prime Minister sits until selection of a new one by their legislature. The basic issue they are at is that Abbas appointed someone himself, which he isn't allowed to do.

Tekania wrote:

Angleter wrote:
He's the main reason why Palestine has a decent-ish chance of peace right now, and was only appointed after Hamas were defenestrated from government by Mahmoud Abbas- the President- who was well within his rights as President to do so.

Except it wasn't, under their system the outgoing Prime Minister sits until selection of a new one by their legislature. The basic issue they are at is that Abbas appointed someone himself, which he isn't allowed to do.

PNA Constitution, Chapter Three:

ARTICLE 45
The President of the National Authority shall select the Prime Minister, and task him to form his government. The President shall have the right to remove him, and to accept his resignation, as well as ask him to invite the Council of Members to convene.

So he can, and has. The matter more in question is whether the PLC has (or has been able to given the circumstances) passed a vote of confidence in Fayyad's Cabinets- but I'd assume, given how quick Fayyad was to sack and reform his Cabinet earlier this year, that this either has been achieved, the PLC has been bypassed legally, or they're flagrantly breaching the Constitution.

Both parties. No matter what the politicians may say, peace will not come to the middle east until the arab and israeli people are ready for it.

Yootwopia wrote:

Druidville wrote:Seriously? I think Israel would accept peace, if anyone were interested in it. Right now, the Arabs/Palestinians are waiting for the world to legitimize their blood lust. You can't have peace when the other side won't accept that you've been there for 60 years and are a legitimate state.

The Palestinians have been there a lot longer than sixty years.

So have the Jewish Arabs.

The Illuminati.

Angleter wrote:

Tekania wrote:
Except it wasn't, under their system the outgoing Prime Minister sits until selection of a new one by their legislature. The basic issue they are at is that Abbas appointed someone himself, which he isn't allowed to do.

PNA Constitution, Chapter Three:

ARTICLE 45
The President of the National Authority shall select the Prime Minister, and task him to form his government. The President shall have the right to remove him, and to accept his resignation, as well as ask him to invite the Council of Members to convene.

So he can, and has. The matter more in question is whether the PLC has (or has been able to given the circumstances) passed a vote of confidence in Fayyad's Cabinets- but I'd assume, given how quick Fayyad was to sack and reform his Cabinet earlier this year, that this either has been achieved, the PLC has been bypassed legally, or they're flagrantly breaching the Constitution.

Nice selective sighting there. They are talking about the issue relevant to Article 79-4. There's no question that the president may select a PM, it's the issue that that selection is only applicable to presentation and approval of the legislature. The President did not do that. In fact, lacking the confidence vote, the President should dismiss his appointee and select another.

Georgism wrote:The Jews.

HAHA, it's funny, because it's true!

Hamas, Likud, and Obama.

Hulk Hogan.

It's just as logical as trying to assign blame as any other individual.

If you mean the peace process in Korea, the damned Imperialists. In Palestine, it is the imperialist's puppet.

Syvorji wrote:If you mean the peace process in Korea, the damned Imperialists. In Palestine, it is the imperialist's puppet.

You mean... Finland?

crazed israeli right-wingers. israel could end this tomorrow by unilaterally ending the occupation and pulling back to the green line. build a damn wall if they want. and tell the colonists in the occupied territories that they are on their own.

New Glennland wrote:Personally I blame Benjamin Netanyahu and Likud.

everyone

too many groups dont want peace.

God.