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Mr Bananagrabber wrote:If the stuff in the OP is significantly true (specifically, "the world has been run by females since the history of man), then i guess my first question would be: why is it that women have the smaller slice of the gender equity pie? Say for example, in terms of income equality.

Pasig wrote: I don't think women legally commit sexual assault.

And, men would be too ashamed among their peers to claim such thing had happened to them.

Risottia wrote:

Pasig wrote: I don't think women legally commit sexual assault.

What you think is immaterial since facts point otherwise. Google could be your friend, you know.

And, men would be too ashamed among their peers to claim such thing had happened to them.

Oh yeah, because women don't suffer from guilt and shame for being victims of a rape. Never happened that, no way.

Pasig wrote:

Rastynhaven wrote:

What about transgendered children? Plus, some girls throw away their dolls in place of trucks, and vice versa!

Ashmoria wrote:

Pasig wrote: No. I don't mean that.
I mean men and women should have REAL equality. Not just the liberation of women from their gender-roles, but men, too!

FREEDOM and equality is what I am really passionate about when it comes to gender. I find it unfair. You don't chose your gender, so why should one be kept back by it?

leaving the bullshit you wrote behind...

of course men should be liberated from their silly gender role stereotypes.

men should get working on that.

Cybach wrote:

Ashmoria wrote:leaving the bullshit you wrote behind...

of course men should be liberated from their silly gender role stereotypes.

men should get working on that.

Liberated how and from what?

Cybach wrote:

Ashmoria wrote:leaving the bullshit you wrote behind...

of course men should be liberated from their silly gender role stereotypes.

men should get working on that.

Liberated how and from what?

Rastynhaven wrote:

Cybach wrote:

Liberated how and from what?

Liberated from not being able to cry, not being able to wear skirts, to have purses, being jerks, not being nice, wearings boxers unless you're gay, not wearing makeup, snoring, farting in public, burping in public, love to play video games, love to play sports, they don't cross legs while sitting unless they're gay, no girl talk, they should walk straight, they don't work in fashion and beauty, they are not stylists, make-up artists, designers, etc.

While most of these outdated stereotypes are mostly gone, the basic core remain, how to liberate men? Same as how feminism worked.

Deus in Machina wrote:I'm not even gonna touch this one.

Cybach wrote:

Rastynhaven wrote:
Liberated from not being able to cry, not being able to wear skirts, to have purses, being jerks, not being nice, wearings boxers unless you're gay, not wearing makeup, snoring, farting in public, burping in public, love to play video games, love to play sports, they don't cross legs while sitting unless they're gay, no girl talk, they should walk straight, they don't work in fashion and beauty, they are not stylists, make-up artists, designers, etc.

While most of these outdated stereotypes are mostly gone, the basic core remain, how to liberate men? Same as how feminism worked.

1) Men are allowed to cry.
2) Scottish men wear 'em without any shame.
3) Now why would a man run around with a purse? Entirely unnecessary.
4) Men are jerks no?
5) You can wear slips, briefs, etc..
6) snoring, farting, burping, etc.. is considered bad manners. Nothing to do with gender roles.
7) crossing your legs while sitting is considered bad etiquette no? I don't think it's a gender role issue.
Don't work in fashion and beauty? You are aware most old fashion labels from Hugo Boss to Armani were all created and made by men?

Vyan wrote:

Cybach wrote:
1) Men are allowed to cry.
2) Scottish men wear 'em without any shame.
3) Now why would a man run around with a purse? Entirely unnecessary.
4) Men are jerks no?
5) You can wear slips, briefs, etc..
6) snoring, farting, burping, etc.. is considered bad manners. Nothing to do with gender roles.
7) crossing your legs while sitting is considered bad etiquette no? I don't think it's a gender role issue.
Don't work in fashion and beauty? You are aware most old fashion labels from Hugo Boss to Armani were all created and made by men?

I ask again, would you like my list or not?

Ragnarsdomr wrote:Ancient Sparta disproves this theory absolutely. Spartan men didn't fight for their pride, or whatever. They fought for the right to be first to bone the five year old when they get back.

Not to mention, y'know, the huge constraints women have faced in most civilizations across time.

Pasig wrote:I personally feel the world has been run by females since the history of man.

Conserative Morality wrote:Ha. Posts like this make me want to become a misogynist.

Rastynhaven wrote:

Vyan wrote:

I ask again, would you like my list or not?

Tell that to brainwashing Hollywood and Disney...

Conserative Morality wrote:Ha. Posts like this make me want to become a misogynist.

Pasig wrote:I personally feel the world has been run by females since the history of man.

Why? Because, men have weak minds that can be controlled by their genitals. Men are trained to be like this, by women pretending to be a weaker sex.

It starts from birth: brainwashing. Boys are given toy-cars; girls are given dolls. Boys are given toy-guns; girls are given make-up. It's not that the child CHOSE those toys, they were chosen for them. So, they are being brain-washed that certain things are only for certain genders. Why? So, girls can use the excuse of being the fairer sex and boys feel tougher.

Then, it goes onto school. Boys are encouraged to play rough-and-tumble games. Whereas, girls are told to play more sophisticated games.
This leads to the eventual fighting scenario: men, like huge and brainless apes, start swinging their fists, thinking that causing a bit of pain can solve everything. Girls, are encouraged to use their brains in their fights; creating cliques, and really using their minds and cruel tricks to ruin their victim's life.
Because, girls and boys don't really mix, boys don't realize how much more cruel a girl can be. They will only realize this under married life.

Men are encouraged to look after the women: the men are - traditionally - taught to go out and earn money. Fight in the real world for a job, and show off their money, in order to attract women like a baboon shows of his red arse. This is in magazines and nearly every single advert and commercial out there. Real men drink this beer! (followed by a girl in a bikini). Cars! Girls realize how much power they have from ruling and dominating men's sexual urges. It's easy. Put on your mini-skirt and high-heels, and a man will do lots of things you want him to do - with him hoping he can get some of you later. The longer you keep him waiting - teased but unsatisfied - the longer you can lead him on, like a dog on a leash. That's where the innocent sexuality of girls come in.
B.S. by the way. If you are with a group of girls they will talk about sex far more than a group of men would. But, it's their innocence that keep leading men on.

However, VERY rarely does a man pick-up a woman; the woman just allows the man to pick her up. A man will take most girls that come up to him - provided they are decent looking - without much thought other than bowing his load and showing off about it later. Again, like a monkey. Not trained to use his brain.

Think about it. When there is a war, who goes out to risk their life? Men. Why? Because, women put it into men's minds that they are weak and have to be defended. Men, believing this, and in order to to not have their pride hurt and get blue-balled, go out, risk their lives, and die for the women back at home.
You're telling me a woman can't fire a gun, or direct a missile? No, of course they can! But, because of women's facade and men's pride, this doesn't traditionlly happen.
Women and children first! Why? Actually, you tell me why?!? There is no difference. A man can drown just as easily as a woman. Again, goddamn pride and a need to release pressure built-up in the scrotum. Wasted time, on those few seconds of male orgasm. That's all it is. The whole world runs on those few seconds though.

In a family, the man has the weight of the world on his shoulders. If he fails, he won't have enough money to look after his family, failing everybody. If a woman fails in her house-chores, she can catch up with them.
Once a woman has a child, her love for the man falters. This is a natural way to stop interbreeding within human social communities. Men, will start to feel shunned and depressed. He will wonder why the spark has gone from the marriage. So will the woman. But, the woman is happy. She has the money from her man and the love from her child.
Then, after a while, the woman will tell the man to get a vasectomy. Just like when an owner wishes to control her dog, a woman does this to her man. And, the man, being the weaker-minded, goes along with it.

Women have the brain-power and are trained from the playground to use it to manipulate.
Men, just think a six-pack and a fist will get you every where. And driving a Merc will get you all the women. Goddmann baboons! When do you hear a woman say: I need to work my ass off to buy something, just to impress the men? You don't! A women just has to have the figure and revealing clothes, and BAM! She can chose from a crowd of men pawing at her, day upon day, night after night. Easy. Do a pout, and the men will buy you a drink. WOMEN OWN MEN. Seriously. Think about how pathetically men dedicate so much time and money to get a woman.

Women can wear everything! Men can only wear masculine and boring clothing. And, get badly discriminated against for wearing even slightly girly clothing. OR crying! It's a basic human emotion! Yet, men aren't allowed to do it. No! Stop you're crying! Be a man! And, continue doing whatever you were doing in order to please the woman.

Therefore, I believe men are just tools for women. I believe that women have always ruled this World, but through men.

Women are the brains. Men are the muscle. Slaves only needed muscle, too. This can change! It's all nurture, not nature!

These are generalisations. But, how do you feel? Do I have a point, or am I just mental in thinking it should be the men who are fighting for gender equality not women?

AETEN II wrote:Wait, I just found one word that counters this,

rape.

(it's what happens when you try to control men by wearing a mini-skirt in a bad part of town)

The Atlantean Menace wrote:

AETEN II wrote:Wait, I just found one word that counters this,

rape.

(it's what happens when you try to control men by wearing a mini-skirt in a bad part of town)

Your suggestion to counter women being able to manipulate men is rape?

Er...um...hmm.

I'm usually not the quickest to jump to accusations of sexism, but, uh, that's an insanely fucking sexist way of thinking.

AETEN II wrote:

The Atlantean Menace wrote:
Your suggestion to counter women being able to manipulate men is rape?

Er...um...hmm.

I'm usually not the quickest to jump to accusations of sexism, but, uh, that's an insanely fucking sexist way of thinking.

Well she was saying how that women can tie men around their finger by dressing is short, revealing clothing. Well on the fringe areas of Sac, if you do that.....