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Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:01 pm**

The Krogan wrote:
Hopeavia wrote:Maybe but Quebec is totally different. they don't all speak english there. Entirely french in school and all.

Ummm there are English schools there last time I checked, and Quebec isn't totally different, not everyone in New Brunswick speaks English either, nor in one of those prairie provinces that has a high population of French speakers.

Yeah we have quite a bit of French speakers in Manitoba. There's also quite a bit in Ontario. I guess they should all be independent.

Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:02 pm**

Merizoc wrote:
Hopeavia wrote:The official language in Quebec is french. The people of Qubec are ethnically french. They speak english in school but it is taught as a foreign language. If you watch the Rogers Cup tennis tournament which is in Montreal they are speaking in french. In fact Montreal is the largest french speaking city in the world. Bigger than paris and french speaking.

After Paris.

Actually apparently Kinshasa in the DRC is second.

Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:05 pm**

Hopeavia wrote:The official language in Quebec is french. The people of Qubec are ethnically french.

>ethnically french
Frankish nonsense, only the Gaul blooded are proper french.

Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:05 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:
Merizoc wrote:After Paris.

Actually apparently Kinshasa in the DRC is second.

Apparently that's only when counting second-language speakers. But we need not get into that all.

Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:07 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:
The Krogan wrote:
Ummm there are English schools there last time I checked, and Quebec isn't totally different, not everyone in New Brunswick speaks English either, nor in one of those prairie provinces that has a high population of French speakers.

Yeah we have quite a bit of French speakers in Manitoba. There's also quite a bit in Ontario. I guess they should all be independent.

New Brunswick is around 30% French too, iirc.

Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:13 pm**

Merizoc wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Actually apparently Kinshasa in the DRC is second.

Apparently that's only when counting second-language speakers. But we need not get into that all.

Still counts in my book.

Plus I wouldn't be surprised if it was the lingua franca in the city.

Merizoc wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Yeah we have quite a bit of French speakers in Manitoba. There's also quite a bit in Ontario. I guess they should all be independent.

New Brunswick is around 30% French too, iirc.

Yep and everyone gets along eh okay.

Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:19 pm**

The Krogan wrote:
Hopeavia wrote:Is this good: Quebec must be free from Canadian oppression. Different language, different culture. Why should Quebec be Canada. BTW: Im Canadian but I live in california. Which means canadian american

Ok bud, literally every province has a different culture and several have different dialects of English, Quebec isn't all that special in those regards. Just because Northern New Brunswick is different from Southern New Brunswick doesn't mean the two should be separate provinces.

I know the culture and accent of New Foundland (and its mentality) are noticeably different from the rest of Canada.

Hopeavia wrote:The official language in Quebec is french. The people of Qubec are ethnically french. They speak english in school but it is taught as a foreign language. If you watch the Rogers Cup tennis tournament which is in Montreal they are speaking in french. In fact Montreal is the largest french speaking city in the world. Bigger than paris and french speaking.

No Paris is bigger. Montréal is in second place though.

Posted: **Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:25 pm**

Napkiraly wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Apparently that's only when counting second-language speakers. But we need not get into that all.

Still counts in my book. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if it was the lingua franca in the city.
Merizoc wrote:New Brunswick is around 30% French too, iirc.
Yep and everyone gets along eh okay.

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Boooooo

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:34 am**

Okay i got a question?

Why is the tail of Ontario (save for Hamilton, Toronto and the like) conservative? Did I miss something in my upbringing?
http://election-atlas.ca/fed/projection.php

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:23 pm**

Fanosolia wrote:Okay i got a question?

Why is the tail of Ontario (save for Hamilton, Toronto and the like) conservative? Did I miss something in my upbringing?
http://election-atlas.ca/fed/projection.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Ontario#Overview_of_Ontario_federal_politics

Southwestern Ontario is similar to the adjacent US Midwest, with the urban areas generally leaning left (especially Windsor, which is a union bastion and thus an NDP stronghold), and the rural areas being far more conservative

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:07 pm**

Geilinor wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:Okay i got a question?

Why is the tail of Ontario (save for Hamilton, Toronto and the like) conservative? Did I miss something in my upbringing?
http://election-atlas.ca/fed/projection.php

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Ontario#Overview_of_Ontario_federal_politics
Southwestern Ontario is similar to the adjacent US Midwest, with the urban areas generally leaning left (especially Windsor, which is a union bastion and thus an NDP stronghold), and the rural areas being far more conservative

Aw man... I have strategically for liberals

. I mean unless I just want to be rebel I guess.

anyways thanks geilior.

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:25 pm**

Fanosolia wrote:Okay i got a question?

Why is the tail of Ontario (save for Hamilton, Toronto and the like) conservative? Did I miss something in my upbringing?
http://election-atlas.ca/fed/projection.php

It depends on what region you're in. If you're in a more rural area, then that's solid Conservative country. The big urban cities tend to be more Liberal, while blue collar cities such as Windsor and Hamilton are NDP strongholds. The suburbs are typically Liberal-Conservative battlegrounds and tend to go with whoever forms the government.

This time around, I'm predicting that the Liberals will sweep Mississauga, gain a couple in the London and Kitchener area, and gain a couple in Durham (hopefully taking out the awful Chris Alexander), in addition to gaining many of their old Toronto seats back. The polling is in their favor for all of that to happen.

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:14 pm**

What party do voters in your riding usually vote for?
Mine is Conservative it's the only piece of blue in a sea of red. The Liberals almost won for MPP it was really close.
I voted Conservative then and I'm most likely going to vote Conservative now since I know what to expect from Harper.

Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:48 pm**

Alvisiror wrote:Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

The problem is that all the other leaders were there.

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:21 pm**

I'm an American, so I am ignorant of the politics of Canada beside they follow our marching order in their own, special Canadian way. But, I think if I were Canadian, I would probably vote for the Liberals and Trudeau because of who his dad was.

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:18 pm**

Alvisiror wrote:Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

Being the leader of a federal political party attending an event is very different from being an individual.

The fact that, of the four national party leaders, he didn't bother to make an appearance at even one Pride event is newsworthy because it sends a message that he doesn't care about LGBT rights. That in itself is not surprising, considering the Conservative Party and Stephen Harper's personal hostility toward things like same-sex marriage and trans rights, but you'd think he'd at least pretend for the sake of votes.

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:11 pm**

Alvisiror wrote:What party do voters in your riding usually vote for?
Mine is Conservative it's the only piece of blue in a sea of red. The Liberals almost won for MPP it was really close.
I voted Conservative then and I'm most likely going to vote Conservative now since I know what to expect from Harper.

Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

Vaudreuil-Soulanges has historically been a Bloc riding, but it turned orange in 2011 and will probably remain so.

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:16 am**

Alvisiror wrote:What party do voters in your riding usually vote for?
Mine is Conservative it's the only piece of blue in a sea of red. The Liberals almost won for MPP it was really close.
I voted Conservative then and I'm most likely going to vote Conservative now since I know what to expect from Harper.

Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

I'm in Waterloo. The MP is a Conservative. Which is really surprising when you consider that Waterloo is a uni town. Then again apparently politics wasn't really a big thing in the city until this past Harper majority which has fired up people. At least according to my sister.

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:21 am**

Alvisiror wrote:What party do voters in your riding usually vote for?
Mine is Conservative it's the only piece of blue in a sea of red. The Liberals almost won for MPP it was really close.
I voted Conservative then and I'm most likely going to vote Conservative now since I know what to expect from Harper.

Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

Calgary used to be almost totally conservative. Then came the 2015 provincial election.

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:40 am**

Napkiraly wrote:
Alvisiror wrote:What party do voters in your riding usually vote for?
Mine is Conservative it's the only piece of blue in a sea of red. The Liberals almost won for MPP it was really close.
I voted Conservative then and I'm most likely going to vote Conservative now since I know what to expect from Harper.

Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

I'm in Waterloo. The MP is a Conservative. Which is really surprising when you consider that Waterloo is a uni town. Then again apparently politics wasn't really a big thing in the city until this past Harper majority which has fired up people. At least according to my sister.

um... Forgive my ignorance but what's a union town? is that a town mostly populated by people in trade unions?

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:12 am**

Fanosolia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:I'm in Waterloo. The MP is a Conservative. Which is really surprising when you consider that Waterloo is a uni town. Then again apparently politics wasn't really a big thing in the city until this past Harper majority which has fired up people. At least according to my sister.

um... Forgive my ignorance but what's a union town? is that a town mostly populated by people in trade unions?

I believe it means university. As I recall, there's a University of Waterloo.

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:18 am**

Alvisiror wrote:What party do voters in your riding usually vote for?
Mine is Conservative it's the only piece of blue in a sea of red. The Liberals almost won for MPP it was really close.
I voted Conservative then and I'm most likely going to vote Conservative now since I know what to expect from Harper.

Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

Conservatives usually always win in my riding, that or the occasional Liberal every couple of decades.

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:42 am**

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
um... Forgive my ignorance but what's a union town? is that a town mostly populated by people in trade unions?

I believe it means university. As I recall, there's a University of Waterloo.

Oh I guess that make more sense than union. Sorry about that.

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:13 am**

Geilinor wrote:
Alvisiror wrote:Someone mentioned Harper not attending gay pride. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to. I've never been and don't plan on ever going.

The problem is that all the other leaders were there.

If Patrick Brown, arguably one of the biggest social conservatives in Parliament before leaving to become Ontario PC leader, could show up for Pride events in his riding and in Toronto, then you'd think that Harper would show up at Montreal Pride. Especially when he's desperate to win new seats in Quebec. This shows Harper's disdain for the LGBT community.

My riding is a bit of a bellwether, meaning it will typically vote for whoever is forming government at the time. It has voted Liberal and Conservative in the past, with a Liberal MP in the Chretien/Martin era while it has elected Conservative incumbents during the Harper era. The NDP has traditionally been a distant third.

Posted: **Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:29 am**

The Romulan Republic wrote:
Fanosolia wrote:
um... Forgive my ignorance but what's a union town? is that a town mostly populated by people in trade unions?

I believe it means university. As I recall, there's a University of Waterloo.

And Wilfrid Laurier University.

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