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Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:38 pm**

The Black Forrest wrote:
Val Halla wrote:It is in there. Remember that whole thing a few months ago? The reason why she's in jail?

It's just about oppressing Christians man!

Nothing is more oppressive than freedom, clearly.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:38 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:....

And you are done, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about at all. As was declared in the case of Obergefell v. Hodges Same Sex marriage is a protected right upheld by the 14th amendment to the United States Constitution. This happened this fucking year, it is law, part of the 14th amendment, you would have to be living under a rock to not know this with how widespread it was talked about both online and off-line.

Next time you go to argue about something, at least have a basic fraking understanding about what it is you are going to argue about.

If I looked up the text of the 14th amendment, it would say that.
Neutraligon wrote:
Your religion has nothing to do with if you are homophobic. There are those who are homophobic atheists. Your bible is irrelevant when it comes to the US government or state governments.

The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

And?

Show me where in the Bible you were instructed to abuse these people.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:40 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:....

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And you are done, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about at all. As was declared in the case of Obergefell v. Hodges Same Sex marriage is a protected right upheld by the 14th amendment to the United States Constitution. This happened this fucking year, it is law, part of the 14th amendment, you would have to be living under a rock to not know this with how widespread it was talked about both online and off-line.

Next time you go to argue about something, at least have a basic fraking understanding about what it is you are going to argue about.

If I looked up the text of the 14th amendment, it would say that.
Neutraligon wrote:
Your religion has nothing to do with if you are homophobic. There are those who are homophobic atheists. Your bible is irrelevant when it comes to the US government or state governments.

The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

What happened to your "I'm not a homophobe but"?

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:40 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:....

And you are done, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about at all. As was declared in the case of Obergefell v. Hodges Same Sex marriage is a protected right upheld by the 14th amendment to the United States Constitution. This happened this fucking year, it is law, part of the 14th amendment, you would have to be living under a rock to not know this with how widespread it was talked about both online and off-line.

Next time you go to argue about something, at least have a basic fraking understanding about what it is you are going to argue about.

If I looked up the text of the 14th amendment, it would say that.
Neutraligon wrote:
Your religion has nothing to do with if you are homophobic. There are those who are homophobic atheists. Your bible is irrelevant when it comes to the US government or state governments.

The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

God also said it was a sin to eat pork or wear mixed fibers.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:41 pm**

Vassenor wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:If I looked up the text of the 14th amendment, it would say that.
The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

God also said it was a sin to eat pork or wear mixed fibers.

If its in the Old Testament, we dont need to follow it. It was also said that if you sinned, you needed to make an animal sacrifice, but all we do is repent now.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:41 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Your religion has nothing to do with if you are homophobic. There are those who are homophobic atheists. Your bible is irrelevant when it comes to the US government or state governments.

The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

Those are quite some assumptions. But in any case, if God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then that's great for you Christians. Meanwhile, over here in secular society, we'll proceed to not give a shit.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:42 pm**

Vassenor wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:If I looked up the text of the 14th amendment, it would say that.
The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

God also said it was a sin to eat pork or wear mixed fibers.

My God says that heterosexuality is evil and to wear funny hats on Tuesdays.

It doesn't change the law

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:42 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:....

And you are done, you clearly have no clue what you are talking about at all. As was declared in the case of Obergefell v. Hodges Same Sex marriage is a protected right upheld by the 14th amendment to the United States Constitution. This happened this fucking year, it is law, part of the 14th amendment, you would have to be living under a rock to not know this with how widespread it was talked about both online and off-line.

Next time you go to argue about something, at least have a basic fraking understanding about what it is you are going to argue about.

If I looked up the text of the 14th amendment, it would say that.
Neutraligon wrote:
Your religion has nothing to do with if you are homophobic. There are those who are homophobic atheists. Your bible is irrelevant when it comes to the US government or state governments.

The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

It does not matter if it is the most followed religion in the world. It is still irrelevant to the secular federal and state governments of the United States.

The 14th amendment is specifically about equal protection under the law. The Supreme Court has ruled that marriage is covered under that protection. Thus it is unconstitutional to deny same sex couples a marriage license because you are directly failing to follow the 14th amendment.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:43 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
God also said it was a sin to eat pork or wear mixed fibers.

If its in the Old Testament, we dont need to follow it. It was also said that if you sinned, you needed to make an animal sacrifice, but all we do is repent now.

So why is Leviticus the book that everyone cites as proof that homosexuality is a sin if it doesn't apply?

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:43 pm**

Geilinor wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:If I looked up the text of the 14th amendment, it would say that.
The most followed religion in the world says that. If God wrote the bible and told the authors what to write, then it is a sin to be gay.

What happened to your "I'm not a homophobe but"?

It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:43 pm**

Val Halla wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
God also said it was a sin to eat pork or wear mixed fibers.

My God says that heterosexuality is evil and to wear funny hats on Tuesdays.

It doesn't change the law

Mine says heterosexuality is evil and to wear funny hats on Wednesday.

Heretic.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:44 pm**

Farnhamia wrote:
Alyakia wrote:quit

This. Her asylum is achieved easily: "I hereby resign, effective September 1, 2015." Conscience soothed, problem solved.

"It's like forcing someone who opposes war to fight"
Well, they, as a conscientious objector, get to not serve.

She, as a conscientious objector (and frankly, arse, who is refusing to carry out her required legal duty), gets to not be put in a position compromising these beliefs - by quitting.

Religious dicks being dickish, more at 11.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:45 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:
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What happened to your "I'm not a homophobe but"?

It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

I realized today what a bad argument "Jesus died for your sins is". It's an appeal to emotion and an accusation of not caring about death.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:45 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:
What happened to your "I'm not a homophobe but"?

It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

I'm telling you this, as a Christian, that being homophobic is still a thing, even if it is a sin. You're still a homophobe. It's still homophobic.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:45 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:
What happened to your "I'm not a homophobe but"?

It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

Homosexuality is not sinful.
It is an abomination, along with eating shellfish, having haughty eyes and disobeying your parents.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:45 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:(Image)
What happened to your "I'm not a homophobe but"?

It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

...wow just wow.

homophobia-Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

that clearly fulfills the definition of homophobia.

The special pleading is incredible.

You know there where Christians who felt that god deliberately separated the races and created black men to be subservient to white. Where they racist?

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:46 pm**

Geilinor wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

I realized today what a bad argument "Jesus died for your sins is". It's an appeal to emotion and an accusation of not caring about death.

If you sinned and repented, God will forgive you.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:46 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

I appreciate the gesture when people care for my eternity, but the fact that we agree on some very basic fundamental principles (ie. that sin does not exist) in my beliefs means that I must respectfully say that none of that matters to me. Cheers~

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:47 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I realized today what a bad argument "Jesus died for your sins is". It's an appeal to emotion and an accusation of not caring about death.

If you sinned and repented, God will forgive you.

Which is why I don't like your god.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:47 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I realized today what a bad argument "Jesus died for your sins is". It's an appeal to emotion and an accusation of not caring about death.

If you sinned and repented, God will forgive you.

Why would I want to be forgiven by something that doesn't exist?

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:47 pm**

Neutraligon wrote:
The Siverian Republic wrote:It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

...wow just wow.

homophobia-Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

that clearly fulfills the definition of homophobia.

I dont dislike homosexual people. If you guys are really this way, that you would be homosexual, and burn in Hell, then that is not my problem. Talk to God about it.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:47 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Geilinor wrote:
What happened to your "I'm not a homophobe but"?

It is not homophobic if it it sin. If Jesus never died on the cross(Jesus would have came, not matter what) and those people dont repent, they could go to Hell. Repent for your sins, as Jesus died for them.

You raise me a bible, I raise you a dictionary. Maybe you should learn what homophobia means

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:48 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
...wow just wow.

homophobia-Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

that clearly fulfills the definition of homophobia.

I dont dislike homosexual people. If you guys are really this way, that you would be homosexual, and burn in Hell, then that is not my problem. Talk to God about it.

Wanting homosexual people to burn isn't dislike. It's passionate hatred.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:48 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
...wow just wow.

homophobia-Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

that clearly fulfills the definition of homophobia.

I dont dislike homosexual people. If you guys are really this way, that you would be homosexual, and burn in Hell, then that is not my problem. Talk to God about it.

Why don't I just talk to my washing machine about it?
At least I know that's there.

Posted: **Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:48 pm**

The Siverian Republic wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
...wow just wow.

homophobia-Dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people.

that clearly fulfills the definition of homophobia.

I dont dislike homosexual people. If you guys are really this way, that you would be homosexual, and burn in Hell, then that is not my problem. Talk to God about it.

Your god is still irrelevant to a secular government. By the way...the way you are acting is what turns many people away from Christianity.

you missed the word prejudice. Your actions clearly show a prejudice against homosexuals, regardless of the cause.

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