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The Alma Mater wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Jeymz wrote:If they want to follow christianity, I'm cool with that.

Why though ? People worshipping and idolising something like as vile the Chirstian God as the summum of beauty and love is... scary
IMO.

The christian god isn't necessarily vile...

Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.

Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Jeymz wrote:If they want to follow christianity, I'm cool with that.

Why though ? People worshipping and idolising something like as vile the Chirstian God as the summum of beauty and love is... scary
IMO.

The christian god isn't necessarily vile...

Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.

Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.

They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Jeymz wrote:If they want to follow christianity, I'm cool with that.

Why though ? People worshipping and idolising something like as vile the Chirstian God as the summum of beauty and love is... scary
IMO.

The christian god isn't necessarily vile...

Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.

Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.

They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.

So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?

Dyakovo wrote:Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.

While I am aware of the "no true Scotsman fallacy", sometimes I wonder if it truly applies...

I think that all religions are very similar, I think we all believe in the same God, but he takes different forms. Therefore, I don't understand religious wars. If both sides believe God is on their side, then 1 will be disappointed.

Dyakovo wrote:

Treznor wrote:They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.

So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?

True, without the book as basis it gets somewhat harder.
Then again, we have the reality we live in. Nature, which under its surface of prettyness is either pretty brutal and sadistic - or simply uncaring.

With the book as basis 1. becomes irrelevant. Voldemort, Sauron, Cruella de Vil etc all do not need to exist to be considered evil and bad rolemodels.

Strani wrote:I think that all religions are very similar, I think we all believe in the same God, but he takes different forms. Therefore, I don't understand religious wars. If both sides believe God is on their side, then 1 will be disappointed.

Such is the fate of martyrs. They will stand upon the right hand of [fill in the deity of your choice] in the day of judgment when good triumphs over evil.

It's difficult to get into the mind-set of the deeply devout when you yourself are not so, but believers really, truly believe they have the Honest To God^TM Right Answer to everything, they sometimes get a little shirty when people disagree with them. The great wars of religion in Europe were also bound up with the shifting economics and politics of the end of medievalism. It's not easy to distinguish one cause from the other. Religion was the spark but there was a whole lot of fuel lying around, ready to go up.

Balantania wrote:

For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...

And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.

For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.

Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.

Dyakovo wrote:

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Jeymz wrote:If they want to follow christianity, I'm cool with that.

Why though ? People worshipping and idolising something like as vile the Chirstian God as the summum of beauty and love is... scary
IMO.

The christian god isn't necessarily vile...

Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.

Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.

They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.

So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?

At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

The Alma Mater wrote:

Jeymz wrote:If they want to follow christianity, I'm cool with that.

Why though ? People worshipping and idolising something like as vile the Chirstian God as the summum of beauty and love is... scary
IMO.

The christian god isn't necessarily vile...

Because a central doctrine of Christianity is "God is good" ?
Sorry. Not convincing.

Because not all christians base their beliefs on the bible.

They may not do it deliberately, but even doctrine that isn't directly based on scripture can still trace it's origins back to it. Plus, just because I make the claim that Charles Manson is a great man doesn't make him any less of a psychopathic serial murderer.

So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?

At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.

You were equating the christian god to Charles Manson. If you don't have comparable verifiable evidence such a comparison is invalid.

Treznor wrote:At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.

To be fair though - his son is merely a jerk with some shining moments.
Still a rather... unambitious... rolemodel, but better than daddy.

Khyrta wrote:

Balantania wrote:

For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...

And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.

For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.

Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.

Evolution is as good as confirmed by the world's scientists. the evidence for it is more than substancial.
Secondly, the big bang did not give birth to life- It gave birth to matter. to time, to space- to exsistence. Life occured in a very complicated process of extreme pressure over thosands of years and electrical charges- bringing life in the form of single celled organisms, later evolving into more complex forms. I only know the basics as it is extremely complicated. If you want proof for this, it came TODAY- american scientists created an entirely new, organic life form from scratch.

The Imperial Navy wrote:

Threlizdun wrote:HOLY HELL THIS IS STILL GOING?!?! I POSTED ON THIS ABOUT A MONTH AGO!

Impressive... most impressive. But you are not a Jedi yet.

xD

I come from a muslim family (We're not extremists, we are actually from Bosnia, meaning we don't dress arabic and all that stuff), though I am not very religious. I believe that we were created by a divine force or as you refer to him, god (1). In Islam, the devil is much more "toned" down, as we don't have one devil that rules hell, but several evil "spirits". I would like to point out that MOST (not all) of the stories of Jesus and his miracles probably aren't true, as at that time, everyone was supersticious and if you had said that Jesus had fought 10 dragons while drinking wine with his disciples, they would probably believe you. Secondly, when rome became christianized and catholic, they would make many changes. There is a theory, I repeat myself, a theory, that has it that all the bishops and the pope would meet in a palace where they would discuss Jesus' god-like abilities and whether he was god or human. Or both (2). The bible was written AFTER Jesus died, meaning he did not write it or anything that is inside of it, there are quotes, but he did not write the bible nor any part of it. The church was aswell established AFTER Jesus' death, meaning he did not ask that a church be made in his name. I believe that "hell" is something Catholic Rome overrated to scare peasants and make them give money to the church. I do not want to upset anyone, I just want to share my opinion of things.

1 Have you noticed that god is always "He", "him" or "his" and not "She" or "Her"
2 One example of how Catholic Rome MAY have changed the history of Jesus is, his birth. The way he himself impregnated Mary, then to be born as his own son speaking to himself as his father. (When he was lost once and his parents found him in a Synagogue and his reply to them was "Did you not know I would be in the house of my father" which is himself).

My theory of how we were created.
What if all this is a big advanced The Sims game that some alien kids are playing. xD

Khyrta wrote: second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.

Actually, I recall reading something in my Zoology class last year about a scientist who stuck a bunch of non-living stuff (that he theorized was around at the beginning of the universe) into a glass cell, ran a massive electric current through it, and supposedly a few microbes and bacteria were born in the form of a oozy jelly blob. Don't ask me how it works, I don't know. But there was no life in the container before the current, and afterwards there was, so draw your own conclusions. I would say that after microbes and bacteria were created (which is possible if the right mixture of elements gets zapped by lightning, apparently), if we hold the theory of evolution to be true, it would just take a few thousand millenia before it developed into more complex organisms- hence your sight, hearing, thought, etc. Just a thought.

Khyrta wrote:Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.

Evolution is a fact.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html



Nor is evolution (or abiogenesis for that matter, caused by explosions. You seem to be confusing the Big bang theory, the theory of abiogenesis, and Darwin's theory of natural selection. They are completely different theories.

Dyakovo wrote:

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?

At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.

You were equating the christian god to Charles Manson. If you don't have comparable verifiable evidence such a comparison is invalid.

I've never met Charles Manson. All I have to go by is what I've read about him and seen on television. Based on what I've read and seen, Charles Manson is a psychopathic serial murderer, convicted in court and languishing in prison without the possibility of parole.

I've never met the Christian god. All I have to by is what I've read about him and heard others say. Based on what I've read and heard, the Christian god is a psychopathic serial murderer, sitting up on some invisible and unapproachable throne dictating death and torment for all who refuse to believe in the hearsay and contradictory literature about him.

Is that pedantic enough for you?

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?

At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.

You were equating the christian god to Charles Manson. If you don't have comparable verifiable evidence such a comparison is invalid.

I've never met Charles Manson. All I have to go by is what I've read about him and seen on television. Based on what I've read and seen, Charles Manson is a psychopathic serial murderer, convicted in court and languishing in prison without the possibility of parole.

I've never met the Christian god. All I have to by is what I've read about him and heard others say. Based on what I've read and heard, the Christian god is a psychopathic serial murderer, sitting up on some invisible and unapproachable throne dictating death and torment for all who refuse to believe in the hearsay and contradictory literature about him.

Is that pedantic enough for you?

The information about Manson is verifiable. The information about the christian god is not. Therefore your comparison fails.

Just wow ... I prolly shouldn't do this, but here I go. OP, this is for you.

Balantania wrote:say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin.

You are assuming that there is some global consensus on what is right and what is wrong. If that were the case then we would hardly have any of the issues we have now.

Balantania wrote: God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe.

So, how about that burning bush? Of that wheel of fire? Or Angels wrestling with men? Or walking on water? There are so many miracles in the bible, many shown to people who didn't believe or were even outright hostile toward God. But now suddenly we don't need them? That doesn't make any sense.

Balantania wrote: Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then?

Riiiight, cause there is only room for ghosts in ONE belief system. There are many pseudo-scientific explanations for ghosts, most no more sensible that the drivel in the bible. Belief in God and belief in ghosts do not have to coincide.

Balantania wrote:Also people who belive Obama is the Anti-Christ ...

I'm sooo not touching this. You are leaving your main point here.

Balantania wrote:Also all of these different religons like catholics, prodestants and judism and all the others i think are in my opinion are not needed because all you have to do is belive in god and the virgin marry and that jesus gave his sins for us, also god didnt make religon, humans made religon in thier own way that they seen fit. For example reilgon is formed like a club and then one day a member form that club doesnt like the ideas of it so then they go and make thier own club meaning religon. But really all you have to do is belive in virgin marry, jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will go to heaven.

Okay, now you're not just arguing for Christianity, you are arguing for a specific denomination. Did you know that a very large portion of Christianity feels that all you need to do is accept Jesus, and that's it? Mary should be respected, but there's nothing else about her. The ONLY rule actually stated by Jesus (according to the New Testament) is that you have to accept him as your savior. And to use your own point against you, yes, humans made religion. Why is your man-made religion a better option than any of the other man-made religions? By what you've said here it would be equally great if we all just decided to be Jewish, or Muslim

Balantania wrote:Im not a perfect christian ...

No one is perfect in anything, ever. There is no such thing as perfection. Here is my advice to your future endeavors to convert us Atheists. Learn to argue from some basis that we will accept. You can't convince us of anything by saying "the Bible says" anything. We don't agree with the bible. Don't assume that we agree with you on what you think is right or wrong. Morality and ethics differ greatly between religious views AND cultures. Learn about the people you are trying to have a discussion with.

Good luck!

Dyakovo wrote:

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:

Treznor wrote:

Dyakovo wrote:So now you're claiming that there is verifiable evidence that the christian god 1: exists 2: is vile/a psychopathic serial murderer?

At what point did I claim there is verifiable evidence that the Christian god exists? I am saying that based on scripture which is at least supposed to be divinely inspired if not the literal Word of God, this individual is indeed a psychopathic serial murderer.

You were equating the christian god to Charles Manson. If you don't have comparable verifiable evidence such a comparison is invalid.

I've never met Charles Manson. All I have to go by is what I've read about him and seen on television. Based on what I've read and seen, Charles Manson is a psychopathic serial murderer, convicted in court and languishing in prison without the possibility of parole.

I've never met the Christian god. All I have to by is what I've read about him and heard others say. Based on what I've read and heard, the Christian god is a psychopathic serial murderer, sitting up on some invisible and unapproachable throne dictating death and torment for all who refuse to believe in the hearsay and contradictory literature about him.

Is that pedantic enough for you?

The information about Manson is verifiable. The information about the christian god is not. Therefore your comparison fails.

I freely concede that the information about the Christian god cannot be verified. That doesn't stop Christians and other religious folk from insisting that this god, or some variation thereof, genuinely exists. I wasn't aware that I needed to positively prove the existence of this hypothetical entity in order to form an opinion of how he/she/it is described in literature and anecdote.

Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then is he impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil?

-Epicurus

Tokos wrote:Is he willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then is he impotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil?

-Epicurus

Love that quote. If only I had a penny for everytime i've used it against Christians

Jeymz wrote:Love that quote. If only I had a penny for everytime i've used it against Christians

I spent many an hour trying to reconcile it in my head. CS Lewis' reasoning "We don't understand how Satan fell, and never may, being limited humans" doesn't cut it, since you'd think that at some point God would realise that this was going to create reasonable doubt and reassure us in the same way CS Lewis did. Which He never does, throughout the whole Scripture.

Jeymz wrote:

Khyrta wrote:

Balantania wrote:

For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...

And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.

For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.

Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.

Evolution is as good as confirmed by the world's scientists. the evidence for it is more than substancial.
Secondly, the big bang did not give birth to life- It gave birth to matter. to time, to space- to exsistence. Life occured in a very complicated process of extreme pressure over thosands of years and electrical charges- bringing life in the form of single celled organisms, later evolving into more complex forms. I only know the basics as it is extremely complicated. If you want proof for this, it came TODAY- american scientists created an entirely new, organic life form from scratch.

I wasn't trying to go into great detail about it, cuz i myself don't know much about it. But i do kno wthat matter isn't living. second, I never said evolution wasn't true, all i said was that it's a theory. third, i didn't know that scientists came up with an entirely new life form. Question: Are you studying physics in school??? If so, cool.The space is a awesome thing, and my grammar rules are terrible.

Khyrta wrote:

Jeymz wrote:

Khyrta wrote:

Balantania wrote:

For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...

And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.

For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.

Unfortunately you can't really prove that your step parents have seen demons. But I do have something you can ask people. Especially those who say that Creation is quack and Evolution is fact. First, Evolution is not fact it is a theory if your smart. second, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living. Also, since when does and explosion create sound, life, sight, smell, hearing, thought, etc. It can't, and thats what most Evolutionists fail to realize.
I'm honestly of mixed religions if thats possible. And if it is, probably Jehovahs WItness, a little of Islam and then Buddhist.

Evolution is as good as confirmed by the world's scientists. the evidence for it is more than substancial.
Secondly, the big bang did not give birth to life- It gave birth to matter. to time, to space- to exsistence. Life occured in a very complicated process of extreme pressure over thosands of years and electrical charges- bringing life in the form of single celled organisms, later evolving into more complex forms. I only know the basics as it is extremely complicated. If you want proof for this, it came TODAY- american scientists created an entirely new, organic life form from scratch.

I wasn't trying to go into great detail about it, cuz i myself don't know much about it. But i do kno wthat matter isn't living. second, I never said evolution wasn't true, all i said was that it's a theory. third, i didn't know that scientists came up with an entirely new life form. Question: Are you studying physics in school??? If so, cool.The space is a awesome thing, and my grammar rules are terrible.

Its not so much an entirely new life form really. But they have created life by taking DNA and placing it elsewhere. Its a breakthrough. and yes I'm studying Physics, Chemistry and Biology

Khyrta wrote:

Balantania wrote:

For tea too wrote:I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...

And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.

For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.

, how can two NON-LIVING things possibly explode and make LIVING things. Thats like trying to take to rocks or oxygen tanks and slapping them together thinking they'll make something living.

this is how.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2% ... experiment
thats why one does a little fact checking before assuming that "god did it" is the only answer.
(oh and this is not new science it's fifty years old.)