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Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:29 pm**

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:He's Canadian.

Well that explains it, after all what has Canada ever done?

Jk I like Canada, they have great weather.

What are you talking about? Snow is evil.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:32 pm**

Eol Sha wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Well that explains it, after all what has Canada ever done?

Jk I like Canada, they have great weather.

What are you talking about? Snow is evil.

Snow is great as long as you get it at regular intervals. A few days a year tends to shut down your transportation infrastructure.

http://www.nem-mng.ca/NEM/great4.html

When I looked for Canadian engineering achievements I was honestly disappointed when the first thing on the list was an ice hockey helmet. :roll:

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:36 pm**

Eol Sha wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Well that explains it, after all what has Canada ever done?

Jk I like Canada, they have great weather.

What are you talking about? Snow is evil.

*posing as a Minnesotan and not as the Southern Californian that I really am.*

Snow, oh yes it nothing but an everyday occurrence to me. You'll learn to get used to it someday.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 1:58 pm**

Republic of Canador wrote:
Brookside wrote:
Brooklyn Bridge.

Golden Gate Bridge has been ranked as the 5th most beloved landmark in an "America's Favorite Architecture" ranking.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America ... chitecture

I love how a couple of small-town libraries in Massachusetts got ranked above buildings that actually attract tourists. I mean, they look cool, but I see that kind of architecture all the time, and I don't know why they picked those two libraries out of all the hundreds of Richardsonian Romanesque public buildings that are all over the place.

And why Sever Hall rather than Memorial Hall if we're doing buildings at Harvard? Memorial Hall is way cooler. I took a class in Sever Hall once. It's nice, and it serves its intended purpose, but doesn't stand out from the rest of the architecture at Harvard.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:01 pm**

Republic of Canador wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:What are you talking about? Snow is evil.

*posing as a Minnesotan and not as the Southern Californian that I really am.*

Snow, oh yes it nothing but an everyday occurrence to me. You'll learn to get used to it someday.

Snow is great.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:16 pm**

Kind of sidetracked but about cable bridges - Our cable bridge while not has long is nicer looking. Its our islands first and only cable bridge. It opened in 2008 at a cost of $30 million. It has four lanes, two each way. Today, only one lane in each direction is opened since they say the bridge could collapse. Seems in 2009 they found some design flaws but today there is no money really to properly fix these flaws. Around 22.000 autos a day cross this bridge.

Bridge photo - http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7657 ... 17fb_z.jpg

Video of a auto crossing the bridge with the two lanes going in each direction closed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SZ69JyQU94

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:18 pm**

Infected Mushroom wrote:Should we keep or revoke its status as a landmark and a modern wonder?

How would one even go about revoking these things? Tear the bridge down and destroy all evidence of its existence?

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:19 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Should we keep or revoke its status as a landmark and a modern wonder?

How would one even go about revoking these things? Tear the bridge down and destroy all evidence of its existence?

Even the apes in a post-apocalyptic USA couldn't do that.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:21 pm**

Rio Cana wrote:Kind of sidetracked but about cable bridges - Our cable bridge while not has long is nicer looking. Its our islands first and only cable bridge. It opened in 2008 at a cost of $30 million. It has four lanes, two each way. Today, only one lane in each direction is opened since they say the bridge could collapse. Seems in 2009 they found some design flaws but today there is no money really to properly fix these flaws. Around 22.000 autos a day cross this bridge.

Bridge photo - http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7657 ... 17fb_z.jpg

Video of a auto crossing the bridge with the two lanes going in each direction closed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SZ69JyQU94

Your bridge is a completely different type of bridge; a cable stayed bridge. Golden Gate is a suspension bridge. Personally I find cable stayed bridges to be more futuristic in appearance while suspension bridges are more graceful.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:29 pm**

Republic of Canador wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:Kind of sidetracked but about cable bridges - Our cable bridge while not has long is nicer looking. Its our islands first and only cable bridge. It opened in 2008 at a cost of $30 million. It has four lanes, two each way. Today, only one lane in each direction is opened since they say the bridge could collapse. Seems in 2009 they found some design flaws but today there is no money really to properly fix these flaws. Around 22.000 autos a day cross this bridge.

Bridge photo - http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7280/7657 ... 17fb_z.jpg

Video of a auto crossing the bridge with the two lanes going in each direction closed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SZ69JyQU94

Your bridge is a completely different type of bridge; a cable stayed bridge. Golden Gate is a suspension bridge. Personally I find cable stayed bridges to be more futuristic in appearance while suspension bridges are more graceful.

Could you explain the difference. In the end, I would think with both types of designs everything depends on the cables holding power.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:32 pm**

Rio Cana wrote:
Republic of Canador wrote:Your bridge is a completely different type of bridge; a cable stayed bridge. Golden Gate is a suspension bridge. Personally I find cable stayed bridges to be more futuristic in appearance while suspension bridges are more graceful.

Could you explain the difference. In the end, I would think with both types of designs everything depends on the cables holding power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable-sta ... ion_bridge

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:39 pm**

Neutraligon wrote:
Rio Cana wrote:
Could you explain the difference. In the end, I would think with both types of designs everything depends on the cables holding power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable-sta ... ion_bridge

Thanks for the source.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:44 pm**

Rio Cana wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable-sta ... ion_bridge

Thanks for the source.

No problem.

For those who do not want to read it, the difference is in how the weight is supported. In the suspension bridge the cable itself is the load bearing aspect of the bridge which means that the cable needs to have a very good anchor (which can be a problem in poor soil conditions). In cable-stay bridges the towers are the main load bearing structure which means that the anchor is not necessary, but the road surface must be significantly stronger to bear the compression loading.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:03 pm**

Mighty Mac laughs at puny Golden Gate bridge...
Bro, do you even suspend?

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:36 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Should we keep or revoke its status as a landmark and a modern wonder?

How would one even go about revoking these things? Tear the bridge down and destroy all evidence of its existence?

An official public broadcast would be a start, followed by regulations on advertising

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:47 pm**

Are we literally arguing about a fucking bridge? Like, a bridge that's meant to take people and/or vehicles over things such as valleys or bodies of water?

Yes, there are bigger and more impressive bridges now. However, when it was built in the '30s, it was a masterpiece of engineering and synced well with art deco. It still holds a legacy as a historic San Fran landmark. I mean, is the Saint Louis Arch overrated? The Seattle Space Needle? The Nashville Batman Tower?

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:58 pm**

New Frenco Empire wrote:Are we literally arguing about a fucking bridge? Like, a bridge that's meant to take people and/or vehicles over things such as valleys or bodies of water?

Yes, there are bigger and more impressive bridges now. However, when it was built in the '30s, it was a masterpiece of engineering and synced well with art deco. It still holds a legacy as a historic San Fran landmark. I mean, is the Saint Louis Arch overrated? The Seattle Space Needle? The Nashville Batman Tower?

I think you can make a case for some of those landmarks.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:07 pm**

Deuxtete wrote:Mighty Mac laughs at puny Golden Gate bridge...
Bro, do you even suspend?

what do you mean?

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:26 pm**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How would one even go about revoking these things? Tear the bridge down and destroy all evidence of its existence?

An official public broadcast would be a start, followed by regulations on advertising

Wow.

So, let me see if I've got this straight. In order to counter what you perceive as an over appreciation of a San Francisco landmark you want to have an announcement and produce a series of ads that essentially say, "The Golden Gate bridge isn't that great people" and then...regulate people's appreciation of it? Like, "Whereas the Golden Gate Bridge is...um...overrated (whatever that means) it is established that from hence forth tourists shall not take pictures of the bridge and its image shall not be used in conjunction with images of San Francisco and effectively immediately Vista Point shall be closed, the turn outs on Conzelman Rd shall be closed and all parts of the Marin Headlands facing the bridge be closed to tourist traffic. All photographs at Fort Point must only include the fort itself and have any images of the bridge be consequential or removed from the photo. That will show that stupid bridge."

And that will stop an over-reaction to the Golden Gate Bridge? Have I got that right?

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:32 pm**

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
An official public broadcast would be a start, followed by regulations on advertising

Wow.

So, let me see if I've got this straight. In order to counter what you perceive as an over appreciation of a San Francisco landmark you want to have an announcement and produce a series of ads that essentially say, "The Golden Gate bridge isn't that great people" and then...regulate people's appreciation of it? Like, "Whereas the Golden Gate Bridge is...um...overrated (whatever that means) it is established that from hence forth tourists shall not take pictures of the bridge and its image shall not be used in conjunction with images of San Francisco and effectively immediately Vista Point shall be closed, the turn outs on Conzelman Rd shall be closed and all parts of the Marin Headlands facing the bridge be closed to tourist traffic. All photographs at Fort Point must only include the fort itself and have any images of the bridge be consequential or removed from the photo. That will show that stupid bridge."

And that will stop an over-reaction to the Golden Gate Bridge? Have I got that right?

No.

You are jumping around and making assumptions. Read EXACTLY what I wrote.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:42 pm**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Wow.

So, let me see if I've got this straight. In order to counter what you perceive as an over appreciation of a San Francisco landmark you want to have an announcement and produce a series of ads that essentially say, "The Golden Gate bridge isn't that great people" and then...regulate people's appreciation of it? Like, "Whereas the Golden Gate Bridge is...um...overrated (whatever that means) it is established that from hence forth tourists shall not take pictures of the bridge and its image shall not be used in conjunction with images of San Francisco and effectively immediately Vista Point shall be closed, the turn outs on Conzelman Rd shall be closed and all parts of the Marin Headlands facing the bridge be closed to tourist traffic. All photographs at Fort Point must only include the fort itself and have any images of the bridge be consequential or removed from the photo. That will show that stupid bridge."

And that will stop an over-reaction to the Golden Gate Bridge? Have I got that right?

No.

You are jumping around and making assumptions. Read EXACTLY what I wrote.

Okey dokey.

Infected Mushroom wrote:
An official public broadcast would be a start,

Cannot think of a name wrote:In order to counter what you perceive as an over appreciation of a San Francisco landmark you want to have an announcement

Infected Mushroom wrote:followed by regulations on advertising

Ah, there's the sticky wicket. "On" not "and"...so instead we can keep Vista Point and the Marin Headlands open and we don't have to do the PSAs telling people to not appreciate the bridge anymore.

But the rest of it remains. Yeah, that makes it all better...

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:48 pm**

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
No.

You are jumping around and making assumptions. Read EXACTLY what I wrote.

Okey dokey.

Infected Mushroom wrote:
An official public broadcast would be a start,

Cannot think of a name wrote:In order to counter what you perceive as an over appreciation of a San Francisco landmark you want to have an announcement

Infected Mushroom wrote:followed by regulations on advertising

Ah, there's the sticky wicket. "On" not "and"...so instead we can keep Vista Point and the Marin Headlands open and we don't have to do the PSAs telling people to not appreciate the bridge anymore.

But the rest of it remains. Yeah, that makes it all better...

What do you mean?

It's not very clear to me.

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:49 pm**

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:How would one even go about revoking these things? Tear the bridge down and destroy all evidence of its existence?

An official public broadcast would be a start, followed by regulations on advertising

A broadcast saying what? Regulations to what effect? And what would be the goal of these actions?

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:52 pm**

Kefka - if I may ask, how old are you?

Posted: **Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:57 pm**

Ifreann wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
An official public broadcast would be a start, followed by regulations on advertising

A broadcast saying what? Regulations to what effect? And what would be the goal of these actions?

To remind that uppity bridge that it isn't so special, I guess.

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