Paradox Games III: Is being evil a valid cacus belli?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Ah, Paradox Interactive, THE game company for sociopaths. These games are fantastic for developing homicidal tendencies and a disturbing lack of empathy, as well as becoming a racist, religiously extreme and completely intolerant bastard who will gladly murder his or her family for petty personal gain.

Paradox Interactive are absolutely amazing.

Join us in this third segment of a chronicle of psychopathy and reveal what new depths of madness you have gone to.

[Registug]

FIRST

Also which nation should I play in Vic2? Thinking either Ceska in PDM, or unifying either Ceska or Russia in divergences. Or maybe play as Japan in PDM?

[Nationstatelandsville]

FIRST

Also which nation should I play in Vic2? Thinking either Ceska in PDM, or unifying either Ceska or Russia in divergences. Or maybe play as Japan in PDM?

Having never played Victoria; release South Africa and lead it on a glorious quest of conquest.

[Registug]

FIRST

Also which nation should I play in Vic2? Thinking either Ceska in PDM, or unifying either Ceska or Russia in divergences. Or maybe play as Japan in PDM?

Having never played Victoria; release South Africa and lead it on a glorious quest of conquest.

It's actually really hard. I tried it once and I got rekkt by Zulu

[IshCong]

Ah, EUIV.

Burgundy declared war of conquest on Liege, because why the fuck does Liege even bother to exist? Unfortunately for Burgundy, Liege was in the Holy Roman Empire, and the Emperor - i.e. Austria - did not take so kindly to this encroachment on his territory.

Very, very unkindly, in fact. Austria immediately threw all the HRE behind a war with Burgundy, as well as myself - Poland. For their part, Burgundy produced the terrifying powers of Mainz and Aachen, two nations that don't matter so hard Google doesn't even recognize "Mainz" as a word.

I didn't bother to do anything, still recovering from a minor war with the Teutonic Order which nonetheless took a lot out of Poland; it is, to be fair, Poland. Instead, I let Lithuania march their armies in and start wrecking shit, though instead they sort of just stood around in Burgundy and waited for stuff to happen. Siege warfare, y'know?

Burgundy did not wait. Instead, Burgundy unleashed three armies - each the size of Lithuania's - into central Europe, where they proceeded to tear shit up. Half of the Empire was razed, and many, many nations dropped out of the war simply to spare themselves. Burgundy's strategy was simple; attrition could handle Austria if it was depleted of allies. Austria employed the same strategy, easily scaring off Mainz and Aachen, because who the fuck cares about them? Of course, given as even Burgundy failed to notice their existences, it persisted in the war regardless and was winning by quite a bit - 23%, likely just enough to win Liege. (Though I don't believe anyone ever actually touched Liege, given the respective strategies and Liege's complete irrelevance to everything, including itself.)

The Burgundian troops were commanded by a duke named Charles, who took over much earlier than expected - presumably his predecessor died earlier than he did historically. No matter, Charles was something of a badass; excellent stats, massive army, and - based on that portrait - great hair. This man was unstoppable; so unstoppable he decided, fuck it, he was going to lead his own troops into battle.

Predictably, that went horribly fucking wrong when Charles was suddenly killed in battle. A Regency Council was established immediately and Burgundy instantly folded; historically, the same would happen to the real Charles, and the land would go to France - thus launching just about every Franco-German conflict until today.

Except this time Burgundy didn't go to France. This time it went to Austria.

Welcome to Europe.

It's funny you should mention just how irrelevant Liege is...since in my Polish campaign, the Burgundian Succession actually failed to fire. Burgundy has been run over the coals by France and Austria, but it's really Liege that has reaped the rewards, eating slices of Burgundy and nearby minors. They're up to five provinces last I checked.

[Nationstatelandsville]

Ah, EUIV.

Burgundy declared war of conquest on Liege, because why the fuck does Liege even bother to exist? Unfortunately for Burgundy, Liege was in the Holy Roman Empire, and the Emperor - i.e. Austria - did not take so kindly to this encroachment on his territory.

Very, very unkindly, in fact. Austria immediately threw all the HRE behind a war with Burgundy, as well as myself - Poland. For their part, Burgundy produced the terrifying powers of Mainz and Aachen, two nations that don't matter so hard Google doesn't even recognize "Mainz" as a word.

I didn't bother to do anything, still recovering from a minor war with the Teutonic Order which nonetheless took a lot out of Poland; it is, to be fair, Poland. Instead, I let Lithuania march their armies in and start wrecking shit, though instead they sort of just stood around in Burgundy and waited for stuff to happen. Siege warfare, y'know?

Burgundy did not wait. Instead, Burgundy unleashed three armies - each the size of Lithuania's - into central Europe, where they proceeded to tear shit up. Half of the Empire was razed, and many, many nations dropped out of the war simply to spare themselves. Burgundy's strategy was simple; attrition could handle Austria if it was depleted of allies. Austria employed the same strategy, easily scaring off Mainz and Aachen, because who the fuck cares about them? Of course, given as even Burgundy failed to notice their existences, it persisted in the war regardless and was winning by quite a bit - 23%, likely just enough to win Liege. (Though I don't believe anyone ever actually touched Liege, given the respective strategies and Liege's complete irrelevance to everything, including itself.)

The Burgundian troops were commanded by a duke named Charles, who took over much earlier than expected - presumably his predecessor died earlier than he did historically. No matter, Charles was something of a badass; excellent stats, massive army, and - based on that portrait - great hair. This man was unstoppable; so unstoppable he decided, fuck it, he was going to lead his own troops into battle.

Predictably, that went horribly fucking wrong when Charles was suddenly killed in battle. A Regency Council was established immediately and Burgundy instantly folded; historically, the same would happen to the real Charles, and the land would go to France - thus launching just about every Franco-German conflict until today.

Except this time Burgundy didn't go to France. This time it went to Austria.

Welcome to Europe.

It's funny you should mention just how irrelevant Liege is...since in my Polish campaign, the Burgundian Succession actually failed to fire. Burgundy has been run over the coals by France and Austria, but it's really Liege that has reaped the rewards, eating slices of Burgundy and nearby minors. They're up to five provinces last I checked.

Liege, destroyer of world, eater of men.

[Kroe]

Does anybody still play Eu3?

[Wolfmanne]

Hard to believe that we're so far ahead of the Total War threads in terms of how many we've had. Well, by threads, I am referring to Total War's one thread . I guess it shows how much preferences have changed.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Ah, we just started a new game. Time to wed our heir, check our claims and invade some minor neighbours! Huzzah!

[Washington Resistance Army]

I love the money you get from having a vassal Pope

[Landenburg]

I once dominated eastern Europe with Poland in the Death and Taxes mod.

Also had all of North America.

Good times, only got to the 1550's before I got bored though.

[Ardoki]

First page!

Yay!

[Wolfenium]

I love the money you get from having a vassal Pope

Few are more fun than siphoning taxes from your Catholic neighbours and rivals via pope.

[Reddogkeno101]

Woot! Gotta love the devil kids.

[Herargon]

On da first page.

I love the money you get from having a vassal Pope

Few are more fun than siphoning taxes from your Catholic neighbours and rivals via pope.

I prefer imprisonising the Pope and banishing him.. wait, ok, then I might not have a lifetime supply for money.

:/

Might as well increase Churc Taxes to Hars/Max. Heheh.

[Herargon]

viewtopic.php?p=23573564#p23573564

Washington, why not? By the way, what are NI's?

[Washington Resistance Army]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23573564#p23573564

Washington, why not? By the way, what are NI's?

The HRE is false and blasphemous, it must be destroyed.

NI's, national ideas for EU4.

[Herargon]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23573564#p23573564

Washington, why not? By the way, what are NI's?

The HRE is false and blasphemous, it must be destroyed.

NI's, national ideas for EU4.

Ohh, so. What NI's do you get as the Latin Empire? Default ''Eastern'' ideas?

And how is your technology (Western, Eastern, Ottoderp, 'Murican) and technology levels determined in the conversion to EU4?

[Arkolon]

In Vic2, is the 'Republic of Britannia' the British Empire under a fascist dictatorship or with the liberals having established a democratic republic?

[IshCong]

The HRE is false and blasphemous, it must be destroyed.

NI's, national ideas for EU4.

Ohh, so. What NI's do you get as the Latin Empire? Default ''Eastern'' ideas?

And how is your technology (Western, Eastern, Ottoderp, 'Murican) and technology levels determined in the conversion to EU4?

Dunno about ideas.
Technology Group is based on your CK2 tech level.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The HRE is false and blasphemous, it must be destroyed.

NI's, national ideas for EU4.

Ohh, so. What NI's do you get as the Latin Empire? Default ''Eastern'' ideas?

And how is your technology (Western, Eastern, Ottoderp, 'Murican) and technology levels determined in the conversion to EU4?

The Latin Empire would get the shitty default ideas, I want to make some unique ones.

Technology in EU4 is determined on your tech level in CK2.

[The Grey Wolf]

I have to buy a 512 mb graphics card because CK2 shats itself and dies every time I start it up. But look forward to a game that so closely aligns with my taste.

[Herargon]

Ohh, so. What NI's do you get as the Latin Empire? Default ''Eastern'' ideas?

And how is your technology (Western, Eastern, Ottoderp, 'Murican) and technology levels determined in the conversion to EU4?

The Latin Empire would get the shitty default ideas, I want to make some unique ones.

Technology in EU4 is determined on your tech level in CK2.

I could make a few ideas for you, possibly.

Yeah, I know IshCong and Washington, that you both said it is determined on your tech level.
But would there be exact factors? Would it be that the nation with the most advanced technology would get Western and that all other nations up to a few ''blocks'' (in ck2, technology levels are divided into blocks for each type) lower than that would get Western too?
Or is it determined on how far specific techs are? That would be interesting to find out.

[Altito Asmoro]

I successfully conquered Kongo and Mutapa as Genoa. Part of Ottoman is now part of Genoa. It's 1470s now.

Should I try to form Italy now or attacking Africa states?

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Latin Empire would get the shitty default ideas, I want to make some unique ones.

Technology in EU4 is determined on your tech level in CK2.

I could make a few ideas for you, possibly.

Yeah, I know IshCong and Washington, that you both said it is determined on your tech level.
But would there be exact factors? Would it be that the nation with the most advanced technology would get Western and that all other nations up to a few ''blocks'' (in ck2, technology levels are divided into blocks for each type) lower than that would get Western too?
Or is it determined on how far specific techs are? That would be interesting to find out.

I already have a few in mind, but the ideas will depend on how the world turns out.

As for the tech, lest say I as the Latin Empire have the highest average tech in the game. I will convert to Western tech, and the further away from my tech level other nations are the lower their tech level will be. Make sense?