Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:03 am
There is literally Then you've got a wildly inaccurate notion of leftist political ideologies. At best, if you really, really reached, you might be able to claim it's supporting some form on anarchy, which is not a leftist ideology.
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:03 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:03 amThen you've got a wildly inaccurate notion of leftist political ideologies. At best, if you really, really reached, you might be able to claim it's supporting some form on anarchy, which is not a leftist ideology.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:05 amReploid Productions wrote:Greater Weselton wrote:The line, "No right, no wrong ,no rules for me.", sounds leftist.
Then you've got a wildly inaccurate notion of leftist political ideologies. At best, if you really, really reached, you might be able to claim it's supporting some form on anarchy, which is not a leftist ideology.
Elsa is an anarcho-capitalist.
Murry Rothbard would be proud.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:06 amI don't think personal responsibility has any connection with left-right wing policies, and I consider myself a Right-Winger, or at least a centre-right yet I'm completely an Atheist and support secularism, so apparently this isn't really a "Left-Wing" thing at all.
Not only that but it was said in a different connotation and wasn't referring to politics or religion- at all, but only her personal experience.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:06 amKelinfort wrote:Reploid Productions wrote:Then you've got a wildly inaccurate notion of leftist political ideologies. At best, if you really, really reached, you might be able to claim it's supporting some form on anarchy, which is not a leftist ideology.
Elsa is an anarcho-capitalist.
Murry Rothbard would be proud.
She is not anarcho-capitalist. She is left-of-center and possibly a social democrat.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:09 amHow do you know that? She's never advocated social welfare and she's pretty much fighting government the entire film.
She's practically a Scandinavian Ayn Rand.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:09 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:12 am(Answering all of the above)
I don't think Elsa is supposed to be political at all.
Trying to find her political philosophy through a line is a song she sings isn't very effective/
I don't think Elsa is supposed to be political at all.
Trying to find her political philosophy through a line is a song she sings isn't very effective/
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:13 amShe is the head of government. She is not fighting government. She is fighting reactionary government.
There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:15 amGreater Weselton wrote:Kelinfort wrote:How do you know that? She's never advocated social welfare and she's pretty much fighting government the entire film.
She's practically a Scandinavian Ayn Rand.
She is the head of government. She is not fighting government. She is fighting reactionary government.Reploid Productions wrote:Based on a single line of song lyrics that you are stretching to misinterpret to a ridiculous degree.
There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.
She abdicates and privatises everything after the movie ends.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:15 amGreater Weselton wrote:There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.
Still reading waaaaaay too much in a self-empowerment song in a Disney movie there.
Also, Elsa the Snow Queen is not canon information, and thus not a valid argument.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:16 amReploid Productions wrote:Greater Weselton wrote:There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.
Still reading waaaaaay too much in a self-empowerment song in a Disney movie there.
Also, Elsa the Snow Queen is not canon information, and thus not a valid argument.
What I wanted to say
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:16 amKelinfort wrote:Greater Weselton wrote:She is the head of government. She is not fighting government. She is fighting reactionary government.
There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.
She abdicates and privatises everything after the movie ends.
She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:17 amGreater Weselton wrote:She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.
Soooo... still not a leftist, then.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:19 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:19 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:20 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:20 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:20 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:21 amThey're wrong. This one nation is obviously true! In the NS Senate, they were part of the Liberty alliance!
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:22 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:25 am"Witchcraft" is not related to political leanings. And Elsa is not defined as a witch by the movie canon, so claiming "Elsa is a witch = Elsa is a leftist" is a massive logic disconnect and bordering on threadjacking given it's almost non-existent connection to the thread topic.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:27 amPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:08 pmReploid Productions wrote:Greater Weselton wrote:Witchcraft is generally practiced by those who are left.
"Witchcraft" is not related to political leanings. And Elsa is not defined as a witch by the movie canon, so claiming "Elsa is a witch = Elsa is a leftist" is a massive logic disconnect and bordering on threadjacking given it's almost non-existent connection to the thread topic.
I just interpret what I see.
Kelinfort wrote:Greater Weselton wrote:No nation ever existed by that name.
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=elsa_land
I am pretty sure that is your puppet.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:35 pmGreater Weselton wrote:Reploid Productions wrote:"Witchcraft" is not related to political leanings. And Elsa is not defined as a witch by the movie canon, so claiming "Elsa is a witch = Elsa is a leftist" is a massive logic disconnect and bordering on threadjacking given it's almost non-existent connection to the thread topic.
I just interpret what I see.
I am pretty sure that is your puppet.
No, it's obvious she's an anarcho-capitalist. I showed you proof and you ignore it. You showed me a nation earlier and that someone makes it incorrect?