All Things Frozen (Frozen Discussion Thread)

[Greater Weselton]

The line, "No right, no wrong ,no rules for me.", sounds leftist.

In what way? It's just Elsa singing about letting her haunting past go and continue living on.

I still don't get your point.

It rejects personal responsibility and God's law.

[Reploid Productions]

There is literally nothing remotely political about that song, left OR right.

The line, "No right, no wrong ,no rules for me.", sounds leftist.

Then you've got a wildly inaccurate notion of leftist political ideologies. At best, if you really, really reached, you might be able to claim it's supporting some form on anarchy, which is not a leftist ideology.

[Kelinfort]

The line, "No right, no wrong ,no rules for me.", sounds leftist.

Then you've got a wildly inaccurate notion of leftist political ideologies. At best, if you really, really reached, you might be able to claim it's supporting some form on anarchy, which is not a leftist ideology.

Elsa is an anarcho-capitalist.

Murry Rothbard would be proud.

[IisraelL]

In what way? It's just Elsa singing about letting her haunting past go and continue living on.

I still don't get your point.

It rejects personal responsibility and God's law.

I don't think personal responsibility has any connection with left-right wing policies, and I consider myself a Right-Winger, or at least a centre-right yet I'm completely an Atheist and support secularism, so apparently this isn't really a "Left-Wing" thing at all.

Not only that but it was said in a different connotation and wasn't referring to politics or religion- at all, but only her personal experience.

[Greater Weselton]

Then you've got a wildly inaccurate notion of leftist political ideologies. At best, if you really, really reached, you might be able to claim it's supporting some form on anarchy, which is not a leftist ideology.

Elsa is an anarcho-capitalist.

Murry Rothbard would be proud.

She is not anarcho-capitalist. She is left-of-center and possibly a social democrat.

[Kelinfort]

Elsa is an anarcho-capitalist.

Murry Rothbard would be proud.

She is not anarcho-capitalist. She is left-of-center and possibly a social democrat.

How do you know that? She's never advocated social welfare and she's pretty much fighting government the entire film.

She's practically a Scandinavian Ayn Rand.

[Reploid Productions]

Elsa is an anarcho-capitalist.

Murry Rothbard would be proud.

She is not anarcho-capitalist. She is left-of-center and possibly a social democrat.

Based on a single line of song lyrics that you are stretching to misinterpret to a ridiculous degree.

[IisraelL]

(Answering all of the above)
I don't think Elsa is supposed to be political at all.
Trying to find her political philosophy through a line is a song she sings isn't very effective/

[Greater Weselton]

She is not anarcho-capitalist. She is left-of-center and possibly a social democrat.

How do you know that? She's never advocated social welfare and she's pretty much fighting government the entire film.

She's practically a Scandinavian Ayn Rand.

She is the head of government. She is not fighting government. She is fighting reactionary government.

She is not anarcho-capitalist. She is left-of-center and possibly a social democrat.

Based on a single line of song lyrics that you are stretching to misinterpret to a ridiculous degree.

There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.

[Kelinfort]

How do you know that? She's never advocated social welfare and she's pretty much fighting government the entire film.

She's practically a Scandinavian Ayn Rand.

She is the head of government. She is not fighting government. She is fighting reactionary government.

Based on a single line of song lyrics that you are stretching to misinterpret to a ridiculous degree.

There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.

She abdicates and privatises everything after the movie ends.

[Reploid Productions]

There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.

Still reading waaaaaay too much in a self-empowerment song in a Disney movie there.

Also, Elsa the Snow Queen is not canon information, and thus not a valid argument.

[IisraelL]

There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.

Still reading waaaaaay too much in a self-empowerment song in a Disney movie there.

Also, Elsa the Snow Queen is not canon information, and thus not a valid argument.

What I wanted to say

[Greater Weselton]

She is the head of government. She is not fighting government. She is fighting reactionary government.
There is more than that. The whole song is about rejecting personal responsibility and God's law. Elsa the Snow Queen portrayed her as a member of the Social Democratic Labour Party in the NSG Senate.

She abdicates and privatises everything after the movie ends.

She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.

[Reploid Productions]

She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.

Soooo... still not a leftist, then.

[Kelinfort]

She abdicates and privatises everything after the movie ends.

She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.

Proof? It's obvious she's an anarcho capitalist, this one nation in the Frozen Pacific called Elsa Land was Anarchy and had no government.

[Greater Weselton]

She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.

Soooo... still not a leftist, then.

Witchcraft is generally practiced by those who are left.

[Kelinfort]

She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.

Soooo... still not a leftist, then.

Are there any leftist monarchs?

[Greater Weselton]

She doesn't abdicate. She remains Queen.

Proof? It's obvious she's an anarcho capitalist, this one nation in the Frozen Pacific called Elsa Land was Anarchy and had no government.

Pieces of media after the movie still show her living in the castle.

[Kelinfort]

Soooo... still not a leftist, then.

Witchcraft is generally practiced by those who are left.

Magic is not witchcraft.

http://scifi.stackexchange.com/question ... witchcraft

[Kelinfort]

Proof? It's obvious she's an anarcho capitalist, this one nation in the Frozen Pacific called Elsa Land was Anarchy and had no government.

Pieces of media after the movie still show her living in the castle.

They're wrong. This one nation is obviously true! In the NS Senate, they were part of the Liberty alliance!

[Greater Weselton]

Pieces of media after the movie still show her living in the castle.

They're wrong. This one nation is obviously true! In the NS Senate, they were part of the Liberty alliance!

No nation ever existed by that name.

[Reploid Productions]

Soooo... still not a leftist, then.

Witchcraft is generally practiced by those who are left.

"Witchcraft" is not related to political leanings. And Elsa is not defined as a witch by the movie canon, so claiming "Elsa is a witch = Elsa is a leftist" is a massive logic disconnect and bordering on threadjacking given it's almost non-existent connection to the thread topic.

[Kelinfort]

They're wrong. This one nation is obviously true! In the NS Senate, they were part of the Liberty alliance!

No nation ever existed by that name.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=elsa_land

[Greater Weselton]

Witchcraft is generally practiced by those who are left.

"Witchcraft" is not related to political leanings. And Elsa is not defined as a witch by the movie canon, so claiming "Elsa is a witch = Elsa is a leftist" is a massive logic disconnect and bordering on threadjacking given it's almost non-existent connection to the thread topic.

I just interpret what I see.

No nation ever existed by that name.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=elsa_land

I am pretty sure that is your puppet.

[Kelinfort]

"Witchcraft" is not related to political leanings. And Elsa is not defined as a witch by the movie canon, so claiming "Elsa is a witch = Elsa is a leftist" is a massive logic disconnect and bordering on threadjacking given it's almost non-existent connection to the thread topic.

I just interpret what I see.

https://www.nationstates.net/nation=elsa_land

I am pretty sure that is your puppet.

No, it's obvious she's an anarcho-capitalist. I showed you proof and you ignore it. You showed me a nation earlier and that someone makes it incorrect?