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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:24 am
by Herargon
Tierra Prime wrote:Adding this was time-consuming, but it sure does look good.

http://i.imgur.com/RuKsC1j.jpg



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:25 am
by Herargon
Monkeykind wrote:
Herargon wrote:

Indeed. Crusader Kings takes place in the following periods (Note: I'm writing the periods as in CK2 terms):

Early Middle Ages (769-1095)

Reason: 769 is the start date, obviously in the early middle ages. 1095 is the year in where the First Crusade was declared. This marked the beginning of new knowledge in Western Europe because crusaders brought exotic food, goods and such into their countries from the Middle East.


High Middle Ages (1095-1347)

Reason: Crusades to the Black Death, which killed appr. 25% of Europe's population. Important because after this pandemic of Yersinia pestis, many people inherited things from their deceased family and thus became richer, and could begin to invest in a new future. And more of such aspects.


Late Middle Ages (1347-1453)

Reason: Black Death Aftermath to the Fall of Constantinople (and the end of the game).

And the start of EUIV.



After all?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:25 am
by Transoxthraxia
Herargon wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Nah, the Dark Ages is another name for the Middle Ages or Early Middle Ages. Basically, the entire time Europe was in a state of regression after the fall of the empire. The time between the empire and the Middle Ages is called the ´Age of Migration´.



Indeed. Crusader Kings takes place in the following periods (Note: I'm writing the periods as in CK2 terms):

Early Middle Ages (769-1095)

Reason: 769 is the start date, obviously in the early middle ages. 1095 is the year in where the First Crusade was declared. This marked the beginning of new knowledge in Western Europe because crusaders brought exotic food, goods and such into their countries from the Middle East.


High Middle Ages (1095-1347)

Reason: Crusades to the Black Death, which killed appr. 25% of Europe's population. Important because after this pandemic of Yersinia pestis, many people inherited things from their deceased family and thus became richer, and could begin to invest in a new future. And more of such aspects.


Late Middle Ages (1347-1453)

Reason: Black Death Aftermath to the Fall of Constantinople (and the end of the game).

According to Wikipedia, which is 10 times more accurate than anything Paradox publishes, states that the Early Middle Ages started at the fall of the Western Roman Empire and ran into the fraction of Carolingian Francia and the downfall of the classical Francian Empire as a power. 1001 marks the beginning of the High Middle Ages, and that runs until 1300, where the Late Medieval Age begins, and ends with the fall of Constantinople.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:28 am
by Tierra Prime
Herargon wrote:
Tierra Prime wrote:Adding this was time-consuming, but it sure does look good.

http://i.imgur.com/RuKsC1j.jpg



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Putin would dislike a pan-slavic monarchy? Well colour me surprised.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:28 am
by Monkeykind
Transoxthraxia wrote:
Herargon wrote:

Indeed. Crusader Kings takes place in the following periods (Note: I'm writing the periods as in CK2 terms):

Early Middle Ages (769-1095)

Reason: 769 is the start date, obviously in the early middle ages. 1095 is the year in where the First Crusade was declared. This marked the beginning of new knowledge in Western Europe because crusaders brought exotic food, goods and such into their countries from the Middle East.


High Middle Ages (1095-1347)

Reason: Crusades to the Black Death, which killed appr. 25% of Europe's population. Important because after this pandemic of Yersinia pestis, many people inherited things from their deceased family and thus became richer, and could begin to invest in a new future. And more of such aspects.


Late Middle Ages (1347-1453)

Reason: Black Death Aftermath to the Fall of Constantinople (and the end of the game).

According to Wikipedia, which is 10 times more accurate than anything Paradox publishes, states that the Early Middle Ages started at the fall of the Western Roman Empire and ran into the fraction of Carolingian Francia and the downfall of the classical Francian Empire as a power. 1001 marks the beginning of the High Middle Ages, and that runs until 1300, where the Late Medieval Age begins, and ends with the fall of Constantinople.

Ah, the Dark Age(Early Middle Age), begins at the beginning of the decline of the Roman Empire, not the fall.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:29 am
by Herargon
Transoxthraxia wrote:
Herargon wrote:

Indeed. Crusader Kings takes place in the following periods (Note: I'm writing the periods as in CK2 terms):

Early Middle Ages (769-1095)

Reason: 769 is the start date, obviously in the early middle ages. 1095 is the year in where the First Crusade was declared. This marked the beginning of new knowledge in Western Europe because crusaders brought exotic food, goods and such into their countries from the Middle East.


High Middle Ages (1095-1347)

Reason: Crusades to the Black Death, which killed appr. 25% of Europe's population. Important because after this pandemic of Yersinia pestis, many people inherited things from their deceased family and thus became richer, and could begin to invest in a new future. And more of such aspects.


Late Middle Ages (1347-1453)

Reason: Black Death Aftermath to the Fall of Constantinople (and the end of the game).

According to Wikipedia, which is 10 times more accurate than anything Paradox publishes, states that the Early Middle Ages started at the fall of the Western Roman Empire and ran into the fraction of Carolingian Francia and the downfall of the classical Francian Empire as a power. 1001 marks the beginning of the High Middle Ages, and that runs until 1300, where the Late Medieval Age begins, and ends with the fall of Constantinople.



I am talking as in ''in CK2, the followings periods were these and these'', not talking as in ''the periods in CK2 don't have these dates, but started earlier and ended on later moments/or such''.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:29 am
by Herargon
Tierra Prime wrote:
Herargon wrote:


Putin would dislike a pan-slavic monarchy? Well colour me surprised.


No, the color pink. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:34 am
by Tierra Prime
Herargon wrote:
Tierra Prime wrote:Putin would dislike a pan-slavic monarchy? Well colour me surprised.


No, the color pink. :lol:

Kievan Rus is usually portrayed as a salmon-pink colour on historical maps. I thought about using Russian green but the Empire of Russia already uses it.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:37 am
by Herargon
Tierra Prime wrote:
Herargon wrote:
No, the color pink. :lol:

Kievan Rus is usually portrayed as a salmon-pink colour on historical maps. I thought about using Russian green but the Empire of Russia already uses it.


Wait. You can choose which color your new kingdom has in the update?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:37 am
by Tierra Prime
Here's one of my later experiments (This never made it into the final version, because I remembered the Byzantines signed a treaty with the Bulgarians in 713 which recognised their realm as de jure in CK2 terms).

http://i.imgur.com/n73ozzW.jpg

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:37 am
by Tierra Prime
Herargon wrote:
Tierra Prime wrote:Kievan Rus is usually portrayed as a salmon-pink colour on historical maps. I thought about using Russian green but the Empire of Russia already uses it.


Wait. You can choose which color your new kingdom has in the update?

No, I modded that in as a titular historical title.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:40 am
by Transoxthraxia
Monkeykind wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:According to Wikipedia, which is 10 times more accurate than anything Paradox publishes, states that the Early Middle Ages started at the fall of the Western Roman Empire and ran into the fraction of Carolingian Francia and the downfall of the classical Francian Empire as a power. 1001 marks the beginning of the High Middle Ages, and that runs until 1300, where the Late Medieval Age begins, and ends with the fall of Constantinople.

Ah, the Dark Age(Early Middle Age), begins at the beginning of the decline of the Roman Empire, not the fall.

I, ah, turned back the Middle Ages in my 399 AD mod as Gallia, later Regnum Galliarum, and even later, the Imperorum Galliarum.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:52 am
by Jute
Tierra Prime wrote:Adding this was time-consuming, but it sure does look good.

http://i.imgur.com/RuKsC1j.jpg

What nation is that in Vorpommern, next to Pomerania, at the southern Baltic Sea?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 10:59 am
by Tierra Prime
Jute wrote:
Tierra Prime wrote:Adding this was time-consuming, but it sure does look good.

http://i.imgur.com/RuKsC1j.jpg

What nation is that in Vorpommern, next to Pomerania, at the southern Baltic Sea?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obotrites

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:23 am
by Jute
Tierra Prime wrote:
Jute wrote:What nation is that in Vorpommern, next to Pomerania, at the southern Baltic Sea?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obotrites

Thanks! Also, Estonia is an independent country there, but Russia isn't, or at least not in control of Moscow? That officially would make it my favorite unplayed strategy game at the moment. :lol:
Edit: Is Livonia populated by, well, Livonians, too? That would make it even better.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:37 am
by Transoxthraxia
Jute wrote:

Thanks! Also, Estonia is an independent country there, but Russia isn't, or at least not in control of Moscow? That officially would make it my favorite unplayed strategy game at the moment. :lol:
Edit: Is Livonia populated by, well, Livonians, too? That would make it even better.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

Kievan Rus' was the predecessor to the Russian Monarchy. As for Livonia, they are indeed. Well, Balts. Since Livonians are Balts living in Estonian land.

Edit: sorry, that's wrong. They were Uralic peoples who lived in Baltic land, vice-versa from what I said.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:51 am
by Jute
Transoxthraxia wrote:
Jute wrote:Thanks! Also, Estonia is an independent country there, but Russia isn't, or at least not in control of Moscow? That officially would make it my favorite unplayed strategy game at the moment. :lol:
Edit: Is Livonia populated by, well, Livonians, too? That would make it even better.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

Kievan Rus' was the predecessor to the Russian Monarchy. As for Livonia, they are indeed. Well, Balts. Since Livonians are Balts living in Estonian land.

Edit: sorry, that's wrong. They were Uralic peoples who lived in Baltic land, vice-versa from what I said.

Kievan Rus were founded by Scandinavians, specifically Swedish Vikings, though, weren't they? And Livonians are among the closest relatives of Estonians. Is that a mod, or something you can achieve in a normal game?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:54 am
by Finland SSR
Jute wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

Kievan Rus' was the predecessor to the Russian Monarchy. As for Livonia, they are indeed. Well, Balts. Since Livonians are Balts living in Estonian land.

Edit: sorry, that's wrong. They were Uralic peoples who lived in Baltic land, vice-versa from what I said.

Kievan Rus were founded by Scandinavians, specifically Swedish Vikings, though, weren't they? And Livonians are among the closest relatives of Estonians. Is that a mod, or something you can achieve in a normal game?

Off-note here:
If you find yourself talking with a Russian, don't mention the fact that their country was founded by Vikings, unless you are seeking for trouble.
I learned it the hard way.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:57 am
by Jute
Finland SSR wrote:
Jute wrote:Kievan Rus were founded by Scandinavians, specifically Swedish Vikings, though, weren't they? And Livonians are among the closest relatives of Estonians. Is that a mod, or something you can achieve in a normal game?

Off-note here:
If you find yourself talking with a Russian, don't mention the fact that their country was founded by Vikings, unless you are seeking for trouble.
I learned it the hard way.

Heh, I know that. They have their own theory for their origins for that reason.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:10 pm
by Finland SSR
Jute wrote:
Finland SSR wrote:Off-note here:
If you find yourself talking with a Russian, don't mention the fact that their country was founded by Vikings, unless you are seeking for trouble.
I learned it the hard way.

Heh, I know that. They have their own theory for their origins for that reason.

By the way, I think Bojikami sometimes comes on this thread.
You should tell him that his nation was founded by thick-skulled pagan pillagers who used it as a roadside Starbucks.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:24 pm
by Herargon
Finland SSR wrote:
Jute wrote:Heh, I know that. They have their own theory for their origins for that reason.

By the way, I think Bojikami sometimes comes on this thread.
You should tell him that his nation was founded by thick-skulled pagan pillagers who used it as a roadside Starbucks.



He doesn't care. He is one of the most friendly Russians I've ever seen, and that says a lot.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:34 pm
by Landenburg
Zerinfriom wrote:I think Crusader Kings takes place during the dark ages

I think it is like this

Europa Universalis Rome/ 280 b.c too 27 b.c Roman Empire Era

Crusader Kings II/ 1066 to 1453 Dark Ages or middle ages

Europa Universalis III/ 1399 to 1821 I think

Victoria II/ 1836 to 1836

Hearts of Iron III/ 1836 to 1948

all that is left is for them too make one for the modern era.

also a cold war era one other than Hearts of Iron Two DLC

Might wanna check your dates out there m8

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:30 pm
by Lunas Legion
So, I've finally got round to continuing my Ironman Lombardy/Italy game.

Things were going badly. I'd lost the Kingdom of Burgundy, my current character was in his 60s and his heir was a child. Needless to say, I attacked Burgundy anyway and won when it happened.

My king died and Santois, a one-province count with a strong claim, invaded. Normally this wouldn't be a problem.

Except I had controlled Santois a few decades ago and had lost it to an adventurer, and that adventurer's 17k strong army was still there, mostly intact. Santois also came with several allies from the Middle Francian blob.

I paused the game, went and got a bottle of Lucozade from the fridge, drank, went back to my computer, face-desked, and then decided I wasn't going to surrender Italy because I had one advantage they didn't; disposable manpower. Event troops don't regenerate; this had been the downfall of many prepared invasions launched by myself, and now I would use it against the AI.

I retreated into Italy, my 10k stack squatting in some mountains whilst Santois and it's allies besieged my holdings in Orleans and the surrounding areas before moving down across Middle Francia to Italy itself. I watched their numbers slowly trickle down as they sieged more provinces and lost more men to attrition. I moved forwards to attack, then halted and retreated further south after their allies moved up.

Then they made a mistake. They attacked me head on in mountains, and they were slaughtered. I won the war, and although I would lose Orleans later I am around 2-3 provinces from forming the HRE after I inherit Bavaria and bash up Aquitane a bit after it threw out the Teutons who used to rule it.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:19 pm
by Paketo
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fuck fuck fuck, do not want. Ethiopia does not want to border ottomans so soon, ottomans too stronk

there is good news though as i have found coptic brothers

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and finally full shot of ethiopia right now

http://s14.postimg.org/4gszakar5/2014_11_24_00004.jpg

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:40 pm
by Bojikami
Finland SSR wrote:
Jute wrote:Heh, I know that. They have their own theory for their origins for that reason.

By the way, I think Bojikami sometimes comes on this thread.
You should tell him that his nation was founded by thick-skulled pagan pillagers who used it as a roadside Starbucks.

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Glorious Rossiya is stronk regardless.