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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:48 pm
by Lazssia
Ameriganastan wrote:
Constaniana wrote:The twist is that Sokka had a long, happy marriage to Suki and that all their kids turned out great without daddy issues of any sort.

That would be a nice change of pace.

It would be both refreshing and hilarious.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:55 pm
by Constaniana
Ameriganastan wrote:
Constaniana wrote:The twist is that Sokka had a long, happy marriage to Suki and that all their kids turned out great without daddy issues of any sort.

That would be a nice change of pace.

Wouldn't it? I know great people aren't perfect, and Aang not being a perfect father is kinda understandable with the amount of stuff the Avatar would have to be dealing with, but I don't want every character from the old series to be an awful parent.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:57 pm
by Marcurix
Constaniana wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:That would be a nice change of pace.

Wouldn't it? I know great people aren't perfect, and Aang not being a perfect father is kinda understandable with the amount of stuff the Avatar would have to be dealing with, but I don't want every character from the old series to be an awful parent.


Zuko seems to have done okay.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:58 pm
by Ameriganastan
Constaniana wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:That would be a nice change of pace.

Wouldn't it? I know great people aren't perfect, and Aang not being a perfect father is kinda understandable with the amount of stuff the Avatar would have to be dealing with, but I don't want every character from the old series to be an awful parent.

I think the only awful parent we've heard of is Toph.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:58 pm
by Ionian Knights
Ameriganastan wrote:
Constaniana wrote:Wouldn't it? I know great people aren't perfect, and Aang not being a perfect father is kinda understandable with the amount of stuff the Avatar would have to be dealing with, but I don't want every character from the old series to be an awful parent.

I think the only awful parent we've heard of is Toph.


Aang favored Tenzin over Bumi and (the girl)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:00 pm
by United States of Natan
Ionian Knights wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:I think the only awful parent we've heard of is Toph.


Aang favored Tenzin over Bumi and (the girl)

Kya? and that was because Bumi was a non-bender. Kya, as a waterbender, got plenty of attention from Katara.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:04 pm
by Marcurix
The Flood wrote:
Marcurix wrote:I wonder, what authority you think that is?
"How dare you defy your avatar?!"


From doing...what? Staying in republic city?

As the Avatar Korra derives her power from being the one that maintain balance. Between Humans and spirits, between nations and so forth. She needs to maintain both somewhat of a popular opinion and justification for her actions.

The President was a democratically elected leader that told her to leave his city. She couldn't exactly refuse him.

Though it looks like that order may have been rescinded. Possibly.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:05 pm
by Marcurix
United States of Natan wrote:
Ionian Knights wrote:
Aang favored Tenzin over Bumi and (the girl)

Kya? and that was because Bumi was a non-bender. Kya, as a waterbender, got plenty of attention from Katara.


that's still pretty bad when one parent clearly favors a sibling.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:07 pm
by Jaslandia
Guys, can't you see? TLA and LoK are pushing an anti-parent agenda!

Aang's parents: Never seen
Toph's parents: Over-protective
Katara and Sokka's parents: One died, the other was away in a war
Lin and Suyin's parents: Didn't know their dads, and their mom was crooked cop that let her children get away with everything
Korra's parents: Dad was arrested
Tonraq and Unalaq's parent: Dad banished his own son
Tenzin, Bumi, and Kya's parents: Dad focused on one of his children while neglecting the others

Isn't it obvious? Nick is trying to destroy the family! :p
[Yes, that was all jocular. I know the actual context, I'm just kidding.]

But seriously, the Avatar universe has a long tradition of bad or absentee parenting. Of course, so does the real world...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:09 pm
by Ionian Knights
Jaslandia wrote:Guys, can't you see? TLA and LoK are pushing an anti-parent agenda!

Aang's parents: Never seen
Toph's parents: Over-protective
Katara and Sokka's parents: One died, the other was away in a war
Lin and Suyin's parents: Didn't know their dads, and their mom was crooked cop that let her children get away with everything
Korra's parents: Dad was arrested
Tonraq and Unalaq's parent: Dad banished his own son
Tenzin, Bumi, and Kya's parents: Dad focused on one of his children while neglecting the others

Isn't it obvious? Nick is trying to destroy the family! :p
[Yes, that was all jocular. I know the actual context, I'm just kidding.]

But seriously, the Avatar universe has a long tradition of bad or absentee parenting. Of course, so does the real world...


I think Katara/Sokka's dad was legit...

He had to protect his family... :p

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:09 pm
by Lazssia
Marcurix wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Kya? and that was because Bumi was a non-bender. Kya, as a waterbender, got plenty of attention from Katara.


that's still pretty bad when one parent clearly favors a sibling.

Man, childhood must've been rough lil' Bumi.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:10 pm
by Ionian Knights
Lazssia wrote:
Marcurix wrote:
that's still pretty bad when one parent clearly favors a sibling.

Man, childhood must've been rough lil' Bumi.


He then hung out with Sokka and became batshit crazy.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:12 pm
by United States of Natan
Ionian Knights wrote:


He then hung out with Sokka and became batshit crazy.

don't forget, he is now an airbender.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:15 pm
by Marcurix
Lazssia wrote:
Marcurix wrote:
that's still pretty bad when one parent clearly favors a sibling.

Man, childhood must've been rough lil' Bumi.


Probably, when you think that Aang spent a lot of time training Tenzin and Kya probably had a special connection with Katara through water-bending (and being a girl and all but moving on) Bumi probably felt very left out and lonely at times.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:19 pm
by Jaslandia
Marcurix wrote:


Probably, when you think that Aang spent a lot of time training Tenzin and Kya probably had a special connection with Katara through water-bending (and being a girl and all but moving on) Bumi probably felt very left out and lonely at times.

Yeah, but he had Uncle Sokka and (probably) Aunt Suki. Thus, Bumi became the warrior he is today.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 4:20 pm
by The Flood
What if Bumi didn't gain airbending powers from Harmonic Convergeance; what if he actually had them all along and didn't know?

I mean, supposedly, all members of the Air Nation were benders, so why would Aang's children have been any different? They should have all been either waterbenders or airbenders.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:18 pm
by Auzkhia
The Flood wrote:What if Bumi didn't gain airbending powers from Harmonic Convergeance; what if he actually had them all along and didn't know?

I mean, supposedly, all members of the Air Nation were benders, so why would Aang's children have been any different? They should have all been either waterbenders or airbenders.

Mmm, I like the sound of the that.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:32 pm
by Adab
The Flood wrote:What if Bumi didn't gain airbending powers from Harmonic Convergeance; what if he actually had them all along and didn't know?

I mean, supposedly, all members of the Air Nation were benders, so why would Aang's children have been any different? They should have all been either waterbenders or airbenders.


That's a good idea. Does that mean that Kya (Aang's daughter) is actually an airbender too?

Anyway, I feel somewhat disappointed by Toph. I thought she always stood for justice, until she tried to cover up her daughter's crime and destroyed the police report. I know that she didn't want to have a daughter in jail, that, she felt guilty about it afterwards and resigned as Chief of Police, but still...

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:35 pm
by Ameriganastan
Adab wrote:That's a good idea. Does that mean that Kya (Aang's daughter) is actually an airbender too?

One element per regular bender, dude.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:37 pm
by Jaslandia
Adab wrote:
The Flood wrote:What if Bumi didn't gain airbending powers from Harmonic Convergeance; what if he actually had them all along and didn't know?

I mean, supposedly, all members of the Air Nation were benders, so why would Aang's children have been any different? They should have all been either waterbenders or airbenders.


1. That's a good idea. Does that mean that Kya (Aang's daughter) is actually an airbender too?

2. Anyway, I feel somewhat disappointed by Toph. I thought she always stood for justice, until she tried to cover up her daughter's crime and destroyed the police report. I know that she didn't want to have a daughter in jail, that, she felt guilty about it afterwards and resigned as Chief of Police, but still...

1. Highly unlikely. Only the Avatar can bend more than one element.

2. Toph is still humans. We're talking Toph's own daughter. Not only would Toph not want her own daughter in jail, but the police chief's daughter being in jail would be bad publicity. Considering those factors, Toph's action seems like a expected (if not necessarily commendable) response.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:37 pm
by Auzkhia
Ameriganastan wrote:
Adab wrote:That's a good idea. Does that mean that Kya (Aang's daughter) is actually an airbender too?

One element per regular bender, dude.

What if someone was born with the ability to bend two elements? A demi-Avatar, if you will.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:39 pm
by Ameriganastan
Auzkhia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:One element per regular bender, dude.

What if someone was born with the ability to bend two elements? A demi-Avatar, if you will.

Then that would be crappy writing.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:39 pm
by Auzkhia
Ameriganastan wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:What if someone was born with the ability to bend two elements? A demi-Avatar, if you will.

Then that would be crappy writing.

But, I thought it was interesting to think about, really.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:42 pm
by Jaslandia
Auzkhia wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Then that would be crappy writing.

But, I thought it was interesting to think about, really.

Not really. There are plenty of those demi-Avatar characters in fanfiction. I doubt the writers could pull it off without making a Mary Sue.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 6:46 pm
by The Flood
Adab wrote:
The Flood wrote:What if Bumi didn't gain airbending powers from Harmonic Convergeance; what if he actually had them all along and didn't know?
I mean, supposedly, all members of the Air Nation were benders, so why would Aang's children have been any different? They should have all been either waterbenders or airbenders.

That's a good idea. Does that mean that Kya (Aang's daughter) is actually an airbender too?
Anyway, I feel somewhat disappointed by Toph. I thought she always stood for justice, until she tried to cover up her daughter's crime and destroyed the police report. I know that she didn't want to have a daughter in jail, that, she felt guilty about it afterwards and resigned as Chief of Police, but still...
Kya can't be an airbender, she's a waterbender.

Honestly, most people would probably do the same thing that Toph did, when put in that situation.