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Thoughts on the series finale of Korra?

Bad
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Mediocre
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:28 pm

The Watsonian interpretation of the final scene is pretty weak and could go either way.

The Doylist interpretation is very strong... . With even the creator linking to an article about how daring LoK is on his facebook.
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Postby Forsher » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:45 pm

Alaizia wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Le Comet.


Mind you: In 26 years Iroh II will most probably be Fire Lord. As of the end of S4, Izumi must be in her late 50s - early 60s. In S4 Iroh Jr was 40, so at the time of the arrival of Sozin's Comet in approximately 26 years he will be 66.


Iroh is quite a bit older than I thought he was. It's a 70 year time skip, yeah? So, 74-40 = 34. When Iroh's born, Zuko's 51-ish, which is youngish for a grandparent and it would mean Izumi was fairly young when Iroh was born as well... assuming Zuko was 25-ish when Izumi was born, she'd be 26-ish. I'll just attribute this to parents IRL being older than those in the Avatar-verse on average.

Iroh's grandchildren to contain Azula II? It's arguably more likely that Korra's end of series holiday has wider ramifications in terms of future Earth Kingdom stability and in a few years a firebending person of Earth kingdom origin resurrects Kuvira's already recurring, militant mission (i.e. unified Earth Kingdom), knowing the comet's coming. On the other hand, I think there's a tendency for these sorts of issues to pop up when Avatars are younger and less powerful so maybe Korra needs to get assassinated in around 15 years time (or, arguably, even less because that'd make the new Avatar around 11, which would be ever so slightly ATLA: History Repeats).

Or, maybe, Korra's life continues to be plagued by stuttering periods of opposition. I mean, ditching Republic City after your actions are instrumental in widespread destruction of a lot of it to go on a holiday (in the somewhat unpopular) spirit world? And having created a (again, somewhat controversial) spirit portal in the middle of a major urban settlement? It isn't the world's best decision ever...

That's probably the best angle to go with. In terms of what's been on screen and been major multi-episode arcs... We've had bad-guy Earth and Fire benders (who are, ultimately remarkably similar... at least in the sense that Sozin and Kuvira are; or Azula and Lord Feng). We've had three waterbender villains (one psychotic world domination, one a terrorist, the last a dodgy political figure) and even an evil airbender. On the other hand, it probably echoes the Promise a bit too much.
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Postby Forsher » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:46 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:The Watsonian interpretation of the final scene is pretty weak and could go either way.

The Doylist interpretation is very strong... . With even the creator linking to an article about how daring LoK is on his facebook.


Watsonian? Doylist?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:52 pm

I think it could also be argued that Korra and Asami are going on a vacation for a few days.

They can take a week off - it's not three years. Relax. They'll have plenty of time to rebuild the Earth Kingdom.
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:58 pm

Forsher wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:The Watsonian interpretation of the final scene is pretty weak and could go either way.

The Doylist interpretation is very strong... . With even the creator linking to an article about how daring LoK is on his facebook.


Watsonian? Doylist?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... susDoylist
http://fanlore.org/wiki/Watsonian_vs._Doylist
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TL;DR: Watsonian is an in-universe explanation; Doylist is an out-of-universe explanation from the creators/writers.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:07 pm

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Jaslandia wrote:This thread is gonna be dominated by shipping wars for a while, isn't it? For the record, I really don't care too much about the Korrasami ending. While I used to be a BolinxKorra shipper, I lost interest in LoK shipping after Season 1 (ATLA shipping is another story...). I've never been a Korrasami shipper, but at the same time, I've never really had a problem with Korrasami, so I wouldn't mind if Korrasami was canon. While the ending IMO is heavily hinting at Korrasami, it's vague enough that some could reasonably interpret it as being a just friends moment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRAFfjOYp6E


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United States of Natan wrote:Because I am extremely stubborn and miss Avatar the Last Airbender, I'm officially dubbing the LoK finale "The Last Stand" Part 1- Day of the Colossus, and Part 2- Avatar Korra.

So, you think Korra will have some nasty firebender to deal with in 26 years?

What?
Sozin's Comet, duh. Its currently 174 AG which means 26 years until the next arrival of the Comet. You don't think some firebender is going to try to take advantage of that?
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Postby Lost heros » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:12 pm

United States of Natan wrote:
Lost heros wrote:Don't worry there's at most 5 more pages of this thread left
What?
Sozin's Comet, duh. Its currently 174 AG which means 26 years until the next arrival of the Comet. You don't think some firebender is going to try to take advantage of that?
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Le Comet.
this guy gets it.

The what was more in response to you "renaming" the last two episodes
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:22 pm

Lost heros wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:Sozin's Comet, duh. Its currently 174 AG which means 26 years until the next arrival of the Comet. You don't think some firebender is going to try to take advantage of that?
this guy gets it.

The what was more in response to you "renaming" the last two episodes

regardless, the comet will return in 26 years. I hope they make a comic about that.

Also, I hope they do Avatar Extras for LoK.
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:42 pm

The next Avatar is gonna be a Firebender. Though for him or her to be around for the comet, Korra would have to croak within 6 years or so. And that'd suck.
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:45 pm

Ameriganastan wrote:The next Avatar is gonna be a Firebender. Though for him or her to be around for the comet, Korra would have to croak within 6 years or so. And that'd suck.

No, next Avatar will be an earthbender. Roku came after Kyoshi, remember?
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:55 pm

United States of Natan wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:The next Avatar is gonna be a Firebender. Though for him or her to be around for the comet, Korra would have to croak within 6 years or so. And that'd suck.

No, next Avatar will be an earthbender. Roku came after Kyoshi, remember?

...Then they really need to change the order of the elements in the opening.
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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:59 pm

The order is Fire, Air, Water, Earth, Fire...

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:02 pm

Kralta wrote:The order is Fire, Air, Water, Earth, Fire...

It's not my fault the opening goes "Earth, Water, Fire, Air".
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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:06 pm

The opening from Avatar: The Last Airbender goes Water, Earth, Fire, Air.

http://youtu.be/pJUgCzEdx9k

The Legend of Korra opening goes Earth, Fire, Air, Water.

http://youtu.be/tgT3oYdGMnI

Both list the elements in the correct order, with the current Avatar's element as the last in the list, and the next avatar's the first in the list.

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Postby Ameriganastan » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:07 pm

...I'm going to shut up now and retain what little dignity I have left.
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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:13 pm

Just a stylistic note, but I like how in the second series they changed the opening sequence so that the last(or current) avatar of that element was the one bending in the scene. It was nice to see Aang at the beginning of every episode, even if he was only in the series in a few flashbacks.

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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:14 pm

So... Who's ready for the (Possible) next series 4 years from now?
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Postby Lost heros » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:14 pm

New haven america wrote:So... Who's ready for the (Possible) nest series in 4 years?

There won't be a new series in 4 years.
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Ameriganastan wrote:...I'm going to shut up now and retain what little dignity I have left.

Of course, now you do. If only you had during throughout the shows running...
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New haven america wrote:So... Who's ready for the (Possible) nest series in 4 years?

I doubt there will be another series, the creators probably want to work on something else. Though, if they aren't successful in their new endeavors, who knows? There will probably be money to be made.

Short-medium term, the only likely thing we will get are some more comics, possibly with Korra.
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Ameriganastan wrote:...I'm going to shut up now and retain what little dignity I have left.

Of course, now you do. If only you had during throughout the shows running...

He didn't lose his dignity during the shows running.
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Postby Lost heros » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:17 pm

Kralta wrote:
New haven america wrote:So... Who's ready for the (Possible) nest series in 4 years?

I doubt there will be another series, the creators probably want to work on something else. Though, if they aren't successful in their new endeavors, who knows? There will probably be money to be made.

Short-medium term, the only likely thing we will get are some more comics, possibly with Korra.

Even if the creators wanted to continue the avater-verse, they won't be able. Nick already doesn't like avatar, and they won't let it go to any other studio, so no new series.
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Postby New haven america » Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:20 pm

Lost heros wrote:
New haven america wrote:So... Who's ready for the (Possible) nest series in 4 years?

There won't be a new series in 4 years.

That's what people thought when TLA ended, but guess what premiered in 2012~
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