The Last Airbender/Legend of Korra Thread

[The Flood]

Screw all this freedom crap!

The 4 nations need to be ruled by absolute monarchs, with an Avatar to keep the peace!

[United States of Natan]

Congrats, Natan. Licana just replaced you as "Most annoying person in the Avatar thread".

Yeah, frankly I never cared much for the "Great Uniter" myself. Good Avatar or bad, the world needs one either way. We are talking about a world of people, several of which can control, use, and weaponize fire, air, water, or earth, and their sub-elements, including at least 6 current world leaders, with several having used it to their advantage in war in the past (Ozai, Chin the Conqueror, etc). Heck, entire ARMIES, no, entire MILITARIES are made up of benders, with very few members of the military actually being non-benders. In fact, the entire Air Nation, before the creation of the air acolytes, was completely benders. So, of course this will be a world riddled with war throughout the ages. All these factors make it inevitable. The world needs to be united and protected by the Avatar, no matter what the government of the nations are, or how many nations there are. The Avatar certainly should be good, so I am hoping this episode, or at least the last few of the season, have Korra realizing how to be a good Avatar. However, without one at all, the world is doomed. The Avatar is the only reason it isn't completely under the control of 1 nation already (100 year war).

Anyway, I think we will be seeing Kuvira force Suyin to sign, who will refuse. Eventually, they will fall to their last resort: war. I am not sure the world is going to intervene at all, but I do see a battle coming similar to the siege of the north.

also, next episode preview: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend- ... 19919.html

[Licana]

I don't see why anything of what you said necessarily implies the Avatar as a necessity, especially as of LoK, when we have what could very well be a proto-UN forming around Republic City and the new Air Nation taking up the Avatar's work to provide and protect peace. Literally the only service I can think of the Avatar provides that could not be replaced by normal humans/benders is in regards to the spirits and the spirit world, and even that is somewhat dubious given people like Unalaq's ability to understand the spirits on a roughly similar level.

Also, to wit, the Avatar's "the four nations should remain separate" ideal, likely something stopped large wars like the 100 year war from occurring before, may have also weakened the other nation's ability to repel external conflict. As such, with the Fire nation being the first known nation to challenge this, they were uniquely prepared to make such massive strides at world dominance as no one else was ready for that kind of warfare. Of course, that's speculation on my part, as we don't know very much about any pre-100yw conflicts. It could be quite possible that, without the Avatar, the Earth Kingdom, Water Tribes, and Air Nomands (who likely wouldn't have been preemptively wiped out as a way of trying to undercut the avatar cycle) could have put up a much more respectable fight.

[Reploid Productions]

also, next episode preview: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend- ... 19919.html

Wow. Yeah, major "Siege of the North" vibes from that clip.

If it turns into a fight, that is going to be ugly. Powered armor infantry, tanks, and airships, plus probably a sizable contingent of earth and metalbenders? And shit, if they talk Bolin into using the lavabending against Zaofu? We've already SEEN how bloody devastating a lavabender's abilities are at the Northern Air Temple.

Sure, Kuvira quite rightly points out that the world is going to be watching this, and if bungled she'll likely have the combined militaries of the Fire Nation, Water Tribe, and the Republic moving against her, and maybe even the Air Nomads as well. Or she's counting on the negotiations to go sour and plans to use the opportunity to try and intimidate the rest of the world into not entering the fray. Her threat at Wu's failed coronation to everybody else to stay out will carry a LOT more weight with a suitable demonstration of force toward one of her opponents.

[United States of Natan]

also, next episode preview: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend- ... 19919.html

Wow. Yeah, major "Siege of the North" vibes from that clip.

If it turns into a fight, that is going to be ugly. Powered armor infantry, tanks, and airships, plus probably a sizable contingent of earth and metalbenders? And shit, if they talk Bolin into using the lavabending against Zaofu? We've already SEEN how bloody devastating a lavabender's abilities are at the Northern Air Temple.

Sure, Kuvira quite rightly points out that the world is going to be watching this, and if bungled she'll likely have the combined militaries of the Fire Nation, Water Tribe, and the Republic moving against her, and maybe even the Air Nomads as well. Or she's counting on the negotiations to go sour and plans to use the opportunity to try and intimidate the rest of the world into not entering the fray. Her threat at Wu's failed coronation to everybody else to stay out will carry a LOT more weight with a suitable demonstration of force toward one of her opponents.

Yes, frankly i'd like to see how it plays out in comparison to the 100-year war. Kuvira is clearly a better strategist than Ozai, so it looks like she'll try to turn the rest of the world away, get them to turn a blind eye towards this, or even perhaps get them to join her. Either way, though, stuff is going down. I predict by episode 5, it will have.

[Ameriganastan]

Congrats, Natan. Licana just replaced you as "Most annoying person in the Avatar thread".

Yeah, frankly I never cared much for the "Great Uniter" myself. Good Avatar or bad, the world needs one either way. We are talking about a world of people, several of which can control, use, and weaponize fire, air, water, or earth, and their sub-elements, including at least 6 current world leaders, with several having used it to their advantage in war in the past (Ozai, Chin the Conqueror, etc). Heck, entire ARMIES, no, entire MILITARIES are made up of benders, with very few members of the military actually being non-benders. In fact, the entire Air Nation, before the creation of the air acolytes, was completely benders. So, of course this will be a world riddled with war throughout the ages. All these factors make it inevitable. The world needs to be united and protected by the Avatar, no matter what the government of the nations are, or how many nations there are. The Avatar certainly should be good, so I am hoping this episode, or at least the last few of the season, have Korra realizing how to be a good Avatar. However, without one at all, the world is doomed. The Avatar is the only reason it isn't completely under the control of 1 nation already (100 year war).

Anyway, I think we will be seeing Kuvira force Suyin to sign, who will refuse. Eventually, they will fall to their last resort: war. I am not sure the world is going to intervene at all, but I do see a battle coming similar to the siege of the north.

also, next episode preview: http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend- ... 19919.html

...I just meant him talking like the stuff was real annoyed me.

[Reploid Productions]

Wow. Yeah, major "Siege of the North" vibes from that clip.

If it turns into a fight, that is going to be ugly. Powered armor infantry, tanks, and airships, plus probably a sizable contingent of earth and metalbenders? And shit, if they talk Bolin into using the lavabending against Zaofu? We've already SEEN how bloody devastating a lavabender's abilities are at the Northern Air Temple.

Sure, Kuvira quite rightly points out that the world is going to be watching this, and if bungled she'll likely have the combined militaries of the Fire Nation, Water Tribe, and the Republic moving against her, and maybe even the Air Nomads as well. Or she's counting on the negotiations to go sour and plans to use the opportunity to try and intimidate the rest of the world into not entering the fray. Her threat at Wu's failed coronation to everybody else to stay out will carry a LOT more weight with a suitable demonstration of force toward one of her opponents.

Yes, frankly i'd like to see how it plays out in comparison to the 100-year war. Kuvira is clearly a better strategist than Ozai, so it looks like she'll try to turn the rest of the world away, get them to turn a blind eye towards this, or even perhaps get them to join her. Either way, though, stuff is going down. I predict by episode 5, it will have.

And we still don't know just what Varrick's project is. Power source? Spirit-fueled superweapon? Anti-spirit weapon? Any way you slice it, I don't see a wide variety of spirits being too thrilled with it, which could have some serious blowback, perhaps up to and including accidentally unleashing some manner of cosmic horrors from people messing with things they do not remotely understand.

[United States of Natan]

Yes, frankly i'd like to see how it plays out in comparison to the 100-year war. Kuvira is clearly a better strategist than Ozai, so it looks like she'll try to turn the rest of the world away, get them to turn a blind eye towards this, or even perhaps get them to join her. Either way, though, stuff is going down. I predict by episode 5, it will have.

And we still don't know just what Varrick's project is. Power source? Spirit-fueled superweapon? Anti-spirit weapon? Any way you slice it, I don't see a wide variety of spirits being too thrilled with it, which could have some serious blowback, perhaps up to and including accidentally unleashing some manner of cosmic horrors from people messing with things they do not remotely understand.

Yes, I am willing to bet it will be something really needing the Avatar's attention. Although, what I hope for most right now, is that by the end of the series, the Avatar's connection to their past lives will be restored.

[Ameriganastan]

Yes, I am willing to bet it will be something really needing the Avatar's attention. Although, what I hope for most right now, is that by the end of the series, the Avatar's connection to their past lives will be restored.

Of course it will. It'll be the standard DEM she uses to beat the bad guy.

[United States of Natan]

Yes, I am willing to bet it will be something really needing the Avatar's attention. Although, what I hope for most right now, is that by the end of the series, the Avatar's connection to their past lives will be restored.

Of course it will. It'll be the standard DEM she uses to beat the bad guy.

It won't be DEM if it is done in a standard, already known way. perhaps it happened when the metal was removed.

[Licana]

That wasn't what severed the connection to her past lives, though.

It also doesn't make a lick of sense. :/

[Ameriganastan]

That wasn't what severed the connection to her past lives, though.

It also doesn't make a lick of sense. :/

And the two glowing Kaiju versions of Korra and Season 2 Bad Guy did?

[Licana]

And the two glowing Kaiju versions of Korra and Season 2 Bad Guy did?

He said, making irrelevant statements to prove nothing.

[Ameriganastan]

And the two glowing Kaiju versions of Korra and Season 2 Bad Guy did?

He said, making irrelevant statements to prove nothing.

I'm saying you shouldn't put too much faith in "sense" in a show like this.

[Licana]

I'm saying you shouldn't put too much faith in "sense" in a show like this.

He said, directly stating that this show has bad writing/plot.

Either that or that analysis of fictional works is pointless. Doesn't matter, either statement is kind of stupid.

[Ameriganastan]

I'm saying you shouldn't put too much faith in "sense" in a show like this.

He said, directly stating that this show has bad writing/plot.

Either that or that analysis of fictional works is pointless. Doesn't matter, either statement is kind of stupid.

...I wasn't saying either of those things, Randy McRudepants.

[United States of Natan]

That wasn't what severed the connection to her past lives, though.

It also doesn't make a lick of sense. :/

And the two glowing Kaiju versions of Korra and Season 2 Bad Guy did?

you have a point, Ameri. Although I have a theory for that. Unalaq became like that with the combined elimination of Raava and extreme amplification of cosmic energy caused by Harmonic Convergence, And Korra became like that due to unlocking her last chakra in the tree of time, and subsequently letting her spirit exit her body (like Aang had done several times), which was amplified by that and harmonic convergence. I am not entirely sure how she was able to bend like that, but perhaps it also had to do with harmonic convergence or something.

[Reploid Productions]

Randy McRudepants.

Really? We're stooping to petty namecalling now? Maybe you and Licana need to put one another on ignore since it seems like you guys can't get along.

[United States of Natan]

...You guys realize a forum mod regularly posts here, right?

Anyway, my theory is basically the only explanation I have for those occurrences

[Ameriganastan]

Randy McRudepants.

Really? We're stooping to petty namecalling now? Maybe you and Licana need to put one another on ignore since it seems like you guys can't get along.

Or, more accurately, I should go to bed. Cause I've been up since 11 AM yesterday and I'm getting testy.

[Licana]

...You guys realize a forum mod regularly posts here, right?

No shit, huh? I was completely unaware of what should have been a very obvious fact, being as mods are usually fairly easy to distinguish what with their different coloured user names and moderator exclusive titles and all. I suppose it's a good thing I remained topical and didn't overstep any bounds or lose my cool, otherwise that could have led to a really embarrassing event.

Anyway, my theory is basically the only explanation I have for those occurrences

Could you expand on that, then? As it stands right now I am entirely unsure as to how mercury relates to reconnecting with the Avatar's past lives, especially since they were severed to due to, by my understanding, Raava's "death" at the hands of Vaatu.

[United States of Natan]

...You guys realize a forum mod regularly posts here, right?

No shit, huh? I was completely unaware of what should have been a very obvious fact, being as mods are usually fairly easy to distinguish what with their different coloured user names and moderator exclusive titles and all. I suppose it's a good thing I remained topical and didn't overstep any bounds or lose my cool, otherwise that could have led to a really embarrassing event.

Anyway, my theory is basically the only explanation I have for those occurrences

Could you expand on that, then? As it stands right now I am entirely unsure as to how mercury relates to reconnecting with the Avatar's past lives, especially since they were severed to due to, by my understanding, Raava's "death" at the hands of Vaatu.

I was talking about the kaiju forms. my post is above.

[The Flood]

I would be pretty dissatisfied with the conclusion if she does not reconnect to her past lives.

[Rich and Corporations]

Also, to wit, the Avatar's "the four nations should remain separate" ideal, likely something stopped large wars like the 100 year war from occurring before, may have also weakened the other nation's ability to repel external conflict. As such, with the Fire nation being the first known nation to challenge this, they were uniquely prepared to make such massive strides at world dominance as no one else was ready for that kind of warfare. Of course, that's speculation on my part, as we don't know very much about any pre-100yw conflicts. It could be quite possible that, without the Avatar, the Earth Kingdom, Water Tribes, and Air Nomands (who likely wouldn't have been preemptively wiped out as a way of trying to undercut the avatar cycle) could have put up a much more respectable fight.

Depends on tech level. In Age of Korra all nations seem equally technologically advanced. In the Age of Aang the Fire Nation and the Earth Kingdom seem to be the most advanced but that didn't prevent the Fire Nation from conquering the Earth Kingdom piece by piece. There's probably no logical basis for the Fire Nation to prevail, but it's quite clear how the definition of balance has changed. In Aang each people would have their own nation. Now it seems like the differences between peoples have diminished, in the case of Republic City.

[Licana]

You know, except for where the Fire Nation, from an industry and military technology standpoint, was far better than the Earth Kingdom during the 100 year war.