Really Bioware? REALLY?

[Genivaria]

To quote a commenter.

"The ending to ME3 is so bad it makes people agree with Hitler"

I had the 2nd highest-rated comment on there for about an hour. I think I mentioned not buying any more Bioware. Hopefully enough people agree.

What I can't figure out is why. WHY would they let a different set of writers do the ending?
The plot and dialogue were so popular before.

[Post-Apocaliptia]

You know, I walked into this knowing that whatever ending they gave us would not live up to our (or at the very least my) expectations. But this!? My god, it's like... I DON'T EVEN KNOW! Sure, throw in a pseudo philosophical rant and give us what amounts to three buttons to press for our ending. Whoever thought this one up must have taken a few too many shots of ryncol. I have no words to describe how pissed I am. None. I'm honestly hoping that the whole 'twas but a dream theory is canon, because I'm going to Hulk out if it's not.
But, on the bright side, the game leading up to it was pretty good.
*sigh* I blame EA for this one. And they better be the cause of it.

[Noders]

I thought it was all right.

Besides, I doubt it was Bioware's choice. The ending was probably altered by EA.

EA has a habit of ruining a lot of good games.

Yes EA. Some of us do remember Westwood. However much you like to kick their corpse in the ground.

God do I miss Westwood. EA can burn in hell forever they have the omega touch of shit when it comes to games.

[United States of Minecraftia]

Yeah, I was incredibly upset until I heard that the actual ending can only be achieved on a New Game + file. I'm trying to burn through a play-through to find out if I can still get enjoyment out of the series. If that was just a rumor, and those three 'endings' were all Bioware was giving... I'll be damned if I buy another Bioware game ever again.

The actual ending's only the one with the grandfather and grandchild.

[Creative Vikings]

I haven't seen people this angry since the Grand Wellington Chess Tournament

[Genivaria]

I just looked up ME3 on Wikipedia and here's what I found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect_3#Reception

Reception
Mass Effect 3 was released to generally positive reviews by critics. IGN gave Mass Effect 3 a rating of 9.5 and called it an "absolutely amazing game".Andrew Reiner of Game Informer awarded it 10 out of 10 and asserted that "BioWare has delivered one of the most intricately crafted stories in the history of the medium".

Thierry Nguyen of 1UP.com rated the game 'A' and concluded "While Mass Effect 3 stumbles at times, the fact that it's the ultimate culmination of my own Shepard's story makes it one of the signature (and somewhat-literal) role-playing-games of this year."

Edge rated the game 8/10 saying "It’s off-putting to new players, too busy tying up loose ends to dangle any threads of its own, and fails to stand up as its own game in the same manner as its predecessors. But it’s also a spectacular, powerfully imagined and dramatically involving final act to one of gaming’s richest sci-fi sagas."

Tom Francis of PC Gamer US gave the game a score of 93/100 and ended with saying "...the end of the series is a mixed bag. Satisfying in some ways, nonsensical in others, and ultimately too simple. But the sheer scale of the adventure it’s ending – and the music, which is gorgeous throughout – gives it an emotional impact that goes beyond its plot payload."

The game's different endings have been controversial with some fans.

Understatement?

[Hittanryan]

I had the 2nd highest-rated comment on there for about an hour. I think I mentioned not buying any more Bioware. Hopefully enough people agree.

What I can't figure out is why. WHY would they let a different set of writers do the ending?
The plot and dialogue were so popular before.

The entire rest of the game was nothing short of outstanding. Apparently, the game was written by the old Bioware, while the ending was written by Ewe Boll who has been convinced that Bioware gamers are the reason his movies always tank.

I mean, a major theme throughout all of the games was free choice and the impact it would have later on. We have been completely stripped of our choices. Nothing mattered. What is wrong with Bioware? How could they just abandon the major themes of the entire series? It's like they're being influenced by some sinister force...wait, what was that noise? Faint whispers...OHSHIT--

WE IMPOSE ORDER ON THE CHAOS OF MODERN GAMING. CREATIVITY AND GOOD WRITING ARE NOTHING BUT INEFFICIENT, TIME-CONSUMING EXERCISES. DLC IS ETERNAL. I AM THE VANGUARD OF YOUR DESTITUTION. THIS EXCHANGE IS OVER.

[Genivaria]

What I can't figure out is why. WHY would they let a different set of writers do the ending?
The plot and dialogue were so popular before.

The entire rest of the game was nothing short of outstanding. Apparently, the game was written by the old Bioware, while the ending was written by Ewe Boll who has been convinced that Bioware gamers are the reason his movies always tank.

I mean, a major theme throughout all of the games was free choice and the impact it would have later on. We have been completely stripped of our choices. Nothing mattered. What is wrong with Bioware? How could they just abandon the major themes of the entire series? It's like they're being influenced by some sinister force...wait, what was that noise? Faint whispers...OHSHIT--

WE IMPOSE ORDER ON THE CHAOS OF MODERN GAMING. CREATIVITY AND GOOD WRITING ARE NOTHING BUT INEFFICIENT, TIME-CONSUMING EXERCISES. DLC IS ETERNAL. I AM THE VANGUARD OF YOUR DESTITUTION. THIS EXCHANGE IS OVER.

*dons N7 armor and M-8 Avenger*
Lets do this!

[Conserative Morality]

The actual ending's only the one with the grandfather and grandchild.

Already got that one. I just need the New Game + only one.

[Norstal]

The actual ending's only the one with the grandfather and grandchild.

Already got that one. I just need the New Game + only one.

Can you give me an overview of that ending? Like, where'd you hear that this ending was different and how do i get it?

[Post-Apocaliptia]

What I can't figure out is why. WHY would they let a different set of writers do the ending?
The plot and dialogue were so popular before.

The entire rest of the game was nothing short of outstanding. Apparently, the game was written by the old Bioware, while the ending was written by Ewe Boll who has been convinced that Bioware gamers are the reason his movies always tank.

I mean, a major theme throughout all of the games was free choice and the impact it would have later on. We have been completely stripped of our choices. Nothing mattered. What is wrong with Bioware? How could they just abandon the major themes of the entire series? It's like they're being influenced by some sinister force...wait, what was that noise? Faint whispers...OHSHIT--

WE IMPOSE ORDER ON THE CHAOS OF MODERN GAMING. CREATIVITY AND GOOD WRITING ARE NOTHING BUT INEFFICIENT, TIME-CONSUMING EXERCISES. DLC IS ETERNAL. I AM THE VANGUARD OF YOUR DESTITUTION. THIS EXCHANGE IS OVER.

You know, if EA was being run by the Reapers, that'd explain so damn much.
But wait, why would they distribute a game that would make their existence known? Unless those bastards are using to indoctri- ASSUMING CONTROL OF THIS FORM!

[Hittanryan]

The entire rest of the game was nothing short of outstanding. Apparently, the game was written by the old Bioware, while the ending was written by Ewe Boll who has been convinced that Bioware gamers are the reason his movies always tank.

I mean, a major theme throughout all of the games was free choice and the impact it would have later on. We have been completely stripped of our choices. Nothing mattered. What is wrong with Bioware? How could they just abandon the major themes of the entire series? It's like they're being influenced by some sinister force...wait, what was that noise? Faint whispers...OHSHIT--

WE IMPOSE ORDER ON THE CHAOS OF MODERN GAMING. CREATIVITY AND GOOD WRITING ARE NOTHING BUT INEFFICIENT, TIME-CONSUMING EXERCISES. DLC IS ETERNAL. I AM THE VANGUARD OF YOUR DESTITUTION. THIS EXCHANGE IS OVER.

*dons N7 armor and M-8 Avenger*
Lets do this!

I'll bring a Black Widow and the fleets I painstakingly gathered only for them to be ignored. Oh, and I won't be alone. Garrus is pissed his calibrations didn't help to bring down Harbinger. Tali is about to rewrite the game so she actually gets back to the Homeworld and the ending actually acknowledges that synthetics and organics are now co-existing. Wrex will gain back the krogan's place in the galactic community stolen from him by shitty writing by planting a boot so far up someone's ass they'll taste krogan shoe polish and intestines for a week. Liara and Samara have also offered to send an Ardat-Yakshi to seduce some of EA's higher-ups. They haven't so much as looked at any of the games, so they won't even know what that means.

[Post-Apocaliptia]

*dons N7 armor and M-8 Avenger*
Lets do this!

I'll bring a Black Widow and the fleets I painstakingly gathered only for them to be ignored. Oh, and I won't be alone. Garrus is pissed his calibrations didn't help to bring down Harbinger. Tali is about to rewrite the game so she actually gets back to the Homeworld and the ending actually acknowledges that synthetics and organics are now co-existing. Wrex will gain back the krogan's place in the galactic community stolen from him by shitty writing by planting a boot so far up someone's ass they'll taste krogan shoe polish and intestines for a week. Liara and Samara have also offered to send an Ardat-Yakshi to seduce some of EA's higher-ups. They haven't so much as looked at any of the games, so they won't even know what that means.

I think we need a speech. Kirrahe?
You all know the mission, and what is at stake.
I have come to trust each of you with my life -- but I have also heard murmurs of discontent. I share your concerns.
We are trained for single player; we would be legends, but the save files are sealed. Glory in multiplayer is not our way.
Think of our heroes; Westwood, who made obscenely awesome strategy games. Or Origin, who made RPG's of epic proportions!
These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.
Before the bottom line, there were satisfied customers. Before corporate executives, there were gamers!
Our influence stopped the buggy gameplay, but before that we held the line!
Our influence stopped the trolls, but before that, we held the line!
Our influence will stop EA; in the battle today, we will hold the line!

[Genivaria]

I'll bring a Black Widow and the fleets I painstakingly gathered only for them to be ignored. Oh, and I won't be alone. Garrus is pissed his calibrations didn't help to bring down Harbinger. Tali is about to rewrite the game so she actually gets back to the Homeworld and the ending actually acknowledges that synthetics and organics are now co-existing. Wrex will gain back the krogan's place in the galactic community stolen from him by shitty writing by planting a boot so far up someone's ass they'll taste krogan shoe polish and intestines for a week. Liara and Samara have also offered to send an Ardat-Yakshi to seduce some of EA's higher-ups. They haven't so much as looked at any of the games, so they won't even know what that means.

I think we need a speech. Kirrahe?
You all know the mission, and what is at stake.
I have come to trust each of you with my life -- but I have also heard murmurs of discontent. I share your concerns.
We are trained for single player; we would be legends, but the save files are sealed. Glory in multiplayer is not our way.
Think of our heroes; Westwood, who made obscenely awesome strategy games. Or Origin, who made RPG's of epic proportions!
These giants do not seem to give us solace here, but they are not all that we are.
Before the bottom line, there were satisfied customers. Before corporate executives, there were gamers!
Our influence stopped the buggy gameplay, but before that we held the line!
Our influence stopped the trolls, but before that, we held the line!
Our influence will stop EA; in the battle today, we will hold the line!

SIR YES SIR!

[Trotskylvania]

I enjoyed the game quite thoroughly.

I thoroughly unenjoyed the ending. It was bad story telling, pure and simple. Giving players three vague choices, and then not actually showing the differences in the ending beyond a different color effect to the space magic wave-motion gun is just plain stupid.

The "it was hallucination/dream/indoctrination" hypothesis is intriguing, but I'm just going to sit on the fence and say regardless, it was a bad idea to ship that kind of ending on a finished game, especially one intended to provide closure for a trilogy. Because it provides exactly no closure whatsoever.

[Occupied Deutschland]

What I can't figure out is why. WHY would they let a different set of writers do the ending?
The plot and dialogue were so popular before.

The entire rest of the game was nothing short of outstanding. Apparently, the game was written by the old Bioware, while the ending was written by Ewe Boll who has been convinced that Bioware gamers are the reason his movies always tank.

I mean, a major theme throughout all of the games was free choice and the impact it would have later on........[/i][/b]

Hell, not just that. The entire series is built on the premise that free choice/free-will is GOOD philosophically and is in fact moral, even if it may result in some bad things happening.
I mean, I apologize for possibly sounding pedantic or something but the whole Mass Effect Universe was/is a massive statement that free will is better than so-called "order" that is imposed because that order is destructive and brutal and genocidal. I mean, its a giant statement that ALL life would rather die fighting than accept subjugation willingly barring some crazy mind-control/hackz0rz.
...
And then it ends by you either accepting some form of subjugation or compromising your own morality. Either your character collaborates-with/sacrifices-themselves-to the opposing sides philosophy by choosing to control the Reapers (with no evidence this is long-term successful). Or one is forced to destroy the big baddies while also sacrificing innocents on the alter of ending the conflict by any means. Or one can get a little bit of both worlds and give-in/accept the philosophy of the Reapers/star-child-god-boy AND sacrifice every civilization's uniqueness on the alter of an end to conflict.
But OH-HEY-LOOK-PRIMARY-COLORS! RGB-salvation has arrived!

[Conserative Morality]

Can you give me an overview of that ending? Like, where'd you hear that this ending was different and how do i get it?

I heard it on IGN, but...

If you complete a second (New Game+) playthrough of Mass Effect 3 there is one additional ending you can unlock. [UPDATE] This has been disproven, there is no secret ending.

The update didn't come until after I wasted another ten hours.

Fuck.

[Cameroi]

when i saw the name i was thinking actually about biological warfare, not some series of games or series of entertainments based on them.

being unfamiliar with the latter i will stick with the former. cheap, possibly, effective, probably, but as likely to bite the wielder as the intended victims.

and now i must appologise seeing this is in arts and fiction rather then general.

i do have an opinion on everything and love to express it, but i'm afraid i must plead massive ignorance of the context here.

[Oterro]

when i saw the name i was thinking actually about biological warfare, not some series of games or series of entertainments based on them.

being unfamiliar with the latter i will stick with the former. cheap, possibly, effective, probably, but as likely to bite the wielder as the intended victims.

and now i must appologise seeing this is in arts and fiction rather then general.

i do have an opinion on everything and love to express it, but i'm afraid i must plead massive ignorance of the context here.

The ending to an eagerly anticipated game series was not well received by fans.

[United Districts of 1]

when i saw the name i was thinking actually about biological warfare, not some series of games or series of entertainments based on them.

being unfamiliar with the latter i will stick with the former. cheap, possibly, effective, probably, but as likely to bite the wielder as the intended victims.

and now i must appologise seeing this is in arts and fiction rather then general.

i do have an opinion on everything and love to express it, but i'm afraid i must plead massive ignorance of the context here.

The ending to an eagerly anticipated game series was not well received by fans a abomination.

[Oterro]

The ending to an eagerly anticipated game series was not well received by fans aan abomination.

I'll judge for myself when I've finished it.

[United Districts of 1]

What I can't figure out is why. WHY would they let a different set of writers do the ending?
The plot and dialogue were so popular before.

The entire rest of the game was nothing short of outstanding. Apparently, the game was written by the old Bioware, while the ending was written by Ewe Boll who has been convinced that Bioware gamers are the reason his movies always tank.

I mean, a major theme throughout all of the games was free choice and the impact it would have later on. We have been completely stripped of our choices. Nothing mattered. What is wrong with Bioware? How could they just abandon the major themes of the entire series? It's like they're being influenced by some sinister force...wait, what was that noise? Faint whispers...OHSHIT--

WE IMPOSE ORDER ON THE CHAOS OF MODERN GAMING. CREATIVITY AND GOOD WRITING ARE NOTHING BUT INEFFICIENT, TIME-CONSUMING EXERCISES. DLC IS ETERNAL. I AM THE VANGUARD OF YOUR DESTITUTION. THIS EXCHANGE IS OVER.

EA is Assuming direct control of bioware!

[United Districts of 1]

The ending to an eagerly anticipated game series was not well received by fans aan abomination.

I'll judge for shoot myself when I've finished it.

[Genivaria]

The entire rest of the game was nothing short of outstanding. Apparently, the game was written by the old Bioware, while the ending was written by Ewe Boll who has been convinced that Bioware gamers are the reason his movies always tank.

I mean, a major theme throughout all of the games was free choice and the impact it would have later on. We have been completely stripped of our choices. Nothing mattered. What is wrong with Bioware? How could they just abandon the major themes of the entire series? It's like they're being influenced by some sinister force...wait, what was that noise? Faint whispers...OHSHIT--

WE IMPOSE ORDER ON THE CHAOS OF MODERN GAMING. CREATIVITY AND GOOD WRITING ARE NOTHING BUT INEFFICIENT, TIME-CONSUMING EXERCISES. DLC IS ETERNAL. I AM THE VANGUARD OF YOUR DESTITUTION. THIS EXCHANGE IS OVER.

EA is Assuming direct control of bioware!

The last 10 minutes of ME3 turned into Red Alert 3.

[Oterro]

I'll judge for shoot myself when I've finished it.

I don't have that much of an attachment to a game.