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by Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:09 am
by Vassenor » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:18 am
Stormopolis wrote:Divitaen wrote:
Okay yeah maybe that's the way you campaigned but clearly that wasn't the overall narrative being fed to potential Leave voters. The emphasis was always on Islam, the violence in Turkey, the high birth rates, all the typical talking points for Islamophobic racists.
I think the word you are looking for is islamoREALISM. A phobia is an unreasonable fear, like somebody would have for spiders. European spiders do nothing here in Europe. Back home of course we have sand crab spiders, but in Europe, by and large the spiders are harmless. Do we have something to fear from moslems? Oh yes. I'm fairly sure that the people in Zaventem Airport thought they were safe. Or the people in Bataclan. But they weren't. So yes, we have something to fear. A realistic fear is not a phobia
by Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:20 am
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:42 am
Stormopolis wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=29166878#p29166878
Quoting me as having said their statement.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:46 am
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:Stormopolis wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=29166878#p29166878
Quoting me as having said their statement.
To be fair, the context in which it is being said matters.
Having to make you aware of what you sound like, is not, by any means, maliciously intended.
by Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:50 am
Stormopolis wrote:Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
To be fair, the context in which it is being said matters.
Having to make you aware of what you sound like, is not, by any means, maliciously intended.
There's a difference between awareness and making me out to be a fuming xenophobe. I expect you to apologize.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.
by Gauthier » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:17 am
Lesser Mackonia wrote:Divitaen wrote:
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/fiscal-impact-immigration-uk
http://www.cream-migration.org/files/FiscalEJ.pdf
Just want to point out that, factually, immigrants are a net fiscal positive when you account for taxes they pay in income and sales taxes. So all the "strain on services" rhetoric in the Leave campaign is just factually untrue. And yes, given hate crime and harassment against minorities now happening in the UK, I am going to get concerned when Leave campaigners rely on hate-mongering and race-baiting to garner votes.
It takes time for people to start paying income and sales taxes, certainly I don't imagine most of the Syrian refugees would be in a position to do so.
The second part of your statement is just a succession of empty buzzwords "race-baiting", "hate-crime" etc.
by Gauthier » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:34 am
Lesser Mackonia wrote:Once again we are reminded secession of any part of the United Kingdom is a non-issue.
Lesser Mackonia wrote:Valaran wrote:
He went to 1 out of 43 of their meetings. And then has the gall to say its Europe's fault.
He's grade A material of that sort. As IR has just said for that other MP, Farages was elected to represent the British people in such matters, as were all of UKIP's MEPs. They fucking did nothing, or worse than nothing, then the UK has reduced influence in brussels, and guess who complains about that?
And if you actually read his reason for doing so, he's opposed to any EU legislation whatsoever and thus it would be hypocritical for him to engage in making it in any way. This is entirely consistent with the principles of representative democracy.
Lesser Mackonia wrote:
It shouldn't because it isn't, no region of the United Kingdom has the power to secede from it without the permission of the UK government. I'm not saying the UK government will not be stupid enough to give in to such ridiculous demands with all the media shilling. Journos should be hanged,
by Gauthier » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:35 am
VoetbalPompey wrote:Brexit was the best thing ever! F*uck the globalists and supranational organizations.
Sovereignty!!
by Lesser Mackonia » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:55 am
Gauthier wrote:Openly ban dodging:Lesser Mackonia wrote:
It takes time for people to start paying income and sales taxes, certainly I don't imagine most of the Syrian refugees would be in a position to do so.
The second part of your statement is just a succession of empty buzzwords "race-baiting", "hate-crime" etc.
by Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:22 pm
by Reploid Productions » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:17 pm
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by Souseiseki » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:15 pm
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by Valaran » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:06 am
Razgriskm wrote:[snip]
As for the Belgian comment, go watch the debate right now, scroll to the opening statement from Belgium and wait thirty seconds.Now quit being so dense.
Imperializt Russia wrote:If you'd actually, y'know, participated in the thread rather than barging in every so often to tell Remainers they're thick or whatever, you'd know that I am more than aware there will be no second referendum.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire
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