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Postby Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:09 am

How do you know somebody is trans or vegan?
Don't worry. They'll tell you at the slightest provocation.

Check my privilege? I won't. Even if I knew how.

Of late there has been a 312% increase of people putting their words and thus their fingers in my mouth. Please refrain from doing so.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:18 am

Stormopolis wrote:
Divitaen wrote:
Okay yeah maybe that's the way you campaigned but clearly that wasn't the overall narrative being fed to potential Leave voters. The emphasis was always on Islam, the violence in Turkey, the high birth rates, all the typical talking points for Islamophobic racists.


I think the word you are looking for is islamoREALISM. A phobia is an unreasonable fear, like somebody would have for spiders. European spiders do nothing here in Europe. Back home of course we have sand crab spiders, but in Europe, by and large the spiders are harmless. Do we have something to fear from moslems? Oh yes. I'm fairly sure that the people in Zaventem Airport thought they were safe. Or the people in Bataclan. But they weren't. So yes, we have something to fear. A realistic fear is not a phobia


Implying we should treat all Muslims as terrorists.
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Postby Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:20 am

How do you know somebody is trans or vegan?
Don't worry. They'll tell you at the slightest provocation.

Check my privilege? I won't. Even if I knew how.

Of late there has been a 312% increase of people putting their words and thus their fingers in my mouth. Please refrain from doing so.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:42 am

Stormopolis wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=29166878#p29166878

Quoting me as having said their statement.


To be fair, the context in which it is being said matters.

Having to make you aware of what you sound like, is not, by any means, maliciously intended.
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Postby Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:46 am

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Stormopolis wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=29166878#p29166878

Quoting me as having said their statement.


To be fair, the context in which it is being said matters.

Having to make you aware of what you sound like, is not, by any means, maliciously intended.


There's a difference between awareness and making me out to be a fuming xenophobe. I expect you to apologize.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:50 am

Stormopolis wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
To be fair, the context in which it is being said matters.

Having to make you aware of what you sound like, is not, by any means, maliciously intended.


There's a difference between awareness and making me out to be a fuming xenophobe. I expect you to apologize.


I'm not going to get my point across to you if I don't make it sound so poignant.

If you don't want to be pointed out as a fuming xenophobe, then perhaps you shouldn't be making subtle digs at xenophobic arguments.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:17 am

Openly ban dodging:

Lesser Mackonia wrote:
Divitaen wrote:
http://www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/fiscal-impact-immigration-uk
http://www.cream-migration.org/files/FiscalEJ.pdf

Just want to point out that, factually, immigrants are a net fiscal positive when you account for taxes they pay in income and sales taxes. So all the "strain on services" rhetoric in the Leave campaign is just factually untrue. And yes, given hate crime and harassment against minorities now happening in the UK, I am going to get concerned when Leave campaigners rely on hate-mongering and race-baiting to garner votes.


It takes time for people to start paying income and sales taxes, certainly I don't imagine most of the Syrian refugees would be in a position to do so.

The second part of your statement is just a succession of empty buzzwords "race-baiting", "hate-crime" etc.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:34 am

More ban dodging:

Lesser Mackonia wrote:Once again we are reminded secession of any part of the United Kingdom is a non-issue.


Lesser Mackonia wrote:
Valaran wrote:
He went to 1 out of 43 of their meetings. And then has the gall to say its Europe's fault.

He's grade A material of that sort. As IR has just said for that other MP, Farages was elected to represent the British people in such matters, as were all of UKIP's MEPs. They fucking did nothing, or worse than nothing, then the UK has reduced influence in brussels, and guess who complains about that?


And if you actually read his reason for doing so, he's opposed to any EU legislation whatsoever and thus it would be hypocritical for him to engage in making it in any way. This is entirely consistent with the principles of representative democracy.


Lesser Mackonia wrote:
Valaran wrote:
yes




Are you saying that it shouldn't be an issue, or that it isn't? (or both)


It shouldn't because it isn't, no region of the United Kingdom has the power to secede from it without the permission of the UK government. I'm not saying the UK government will not be stupid enough to give in to such ridiculous demands with all the media shilling. Journos should be hanged,


Lesser Mackonia wrote:
Valaran wrote:
What kind of power?

Nice to know you think so.


I said...the power to secede, or call referendums to do so.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Gauthier » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:35 am

Oh and gloating:

VoetbalPompey wrote:Brexit was the best thing ever! F*uck the globalists and supranational organizations.

Sovereignty!!
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Lesser Mackonia » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:55 am

Gauthier wrote:Openly ban dodging:

Lesser Mackonia wrote:
It takes time for people to start paying income and sales taxes, certainly I don't imagine most of the Syrian refugees would be in a position to do so.

The second part of your statement is just a succession of empty buzzwords "race-baiting", "hate-crime" etc.


You know you look retarded by pointing out something very obvious, several examples of which have been provided and which I have explained the justification for already.

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Stormopolis
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Postby Stormopolis » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:22 pm

Hasn't this entire thread become the remain camp gloating about how right they think they were?

Like this?

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=29170081#p29170081
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How do you know somebody is trans or vegan?
Don't worry. They'll tell you at the slightest provocation.

Check my privilege? I won't. Even if I knew how.

Of late there has been a 312% increase of people putting their words and thus their fingers in my mouth. Please refrain from doing so.

WORKING ON MY FACTBOOK OF AWESOME FACTS!

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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:17 pm

Coraspia wrote:In context, this post appears to be calling brexit voters morons.
here

Looks like that user already got a warning in that thread for a more serious violation. Just going to roll this up under that.

Meanwhile, trawling the past, like, 30 pages. Looks like somebody else already got the posting-past-ban.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:45 pm

Sorry for the extended coffee break. Real life happened. Thread's reopened after far more redtext than I would have preferred.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:23 am

Yup. I definitely deserved that. Frankly I should just stop posting in the Brexit thread.

Apologies, and I'll follow your advice and update my foes list.

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Postby Valaran » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:06 am

Razgriskm wrote:[snip]
As for the Belgian comment, go watch the debate right now, scroll to the opening statement from Belgium and wait thirty seconds. Now quit being so dense.



The line through does little to mask a direct attack on another poster.

E: In light of Razgriskm's defence, I thought it also best to provide the segment of context they highlight:

Imperializt Russia wrote:If you'd actually, y'know, participated in the thread rather than barging in every so often to tell Remainers they're thick or whatever, you'd know that I am more than aware there will be no second referendum.
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Postby Razgriskm » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:15 am

Valaran wrote:
Razgriskm wrote:[snip]
As for the Belgian comment, go watch the debate right now, scroll to the opening statement from Belgium and wait thirty seconds. Now quit being so dense.



The line through does little to mask a direct attack on another poster.


It's snark pal. In his post just prior he said I only came on the thread to call people dense.

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