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Postby Finlarvat » Sat Sep 03, 2016 3:01 pm

New West Guiana has referred to "Crooked Hillary" twice in the GE Megathread since the last post here:
New West Guiana wrote:After she wipes the floor with him (Donald Trump) and his numbers take a dive get ready for these words: Crooked Hillary Clinton rigged the debate to make me look bad.

New West Guiana wrote:So will anyone create a drinking game for the first debate in six days? Benghazi, Crooked Hillary, mental health, emails, will be mentioned about 20-50 times each.
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Postby Finlarvat » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:00 am

More political nicknaming:
Thermodolia wrote:
Communist Xomaniax wrote:Tbh the only reason I haven't defected from the Dems is that pretty much all the third parties either suck or advocate supporting the Dems.

And that's only because of the orange menace. If it wasn't for Trump not one of those parties would be doing that
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:55 pm

Finlarvat wrote:New West Guiana has referred to "Crooked Hillary" twice in the GE Megathread since the last post here:
New West Guiana wrote:After she wipes the floor with him (Donald Trump) and his numbers take a dive get ready for these words: Crooked Hillary Clinton rigged the debate to make me look bad.

New West Guiana wrote:So will anyone create a drinking game for the first debate in six days? Benghazi, Crooked Hillary, mental health, emails, will be mentioned about 20-50 times each.

No. Those are words and phrases NWG says will be the reaction of Trump's followers or ones that should be the basis of a drinking game.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:57 pm

Finlarvat wrote:More political nicknaming:
Thermodolia wrote:And that's only because of the orange menace. If it wasn't for Trump not one of those parties would be doing that

Addressed.

And knock it off with the giant text. We can see a church by daylight.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:52 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Finlarvat wrote:More political nicknaming:

Addressed.

And knock it off with the giant text. We can see a church by daylight.

I'm going to appeal this decision.

If these posters can say Orange Ape, Orange Monkey, Orange Baboon, and Orange Buffoon. And then not get warned for it, then I can say Orange Menace.
viewtopic.php?p=29758013#p2975801
Conserative Morality wrote:
Neo Bavaria wrote:Meanwhile, the DNC is on record taking the results from Iowa and rewriting them so that Clinton.

You can't just blame everything on the Russians. For all we know they were checking themselves to make sure there was nothing suspicious in there.

I can't believe so many people are willing to sell out to the Russians for the sake of seeing an orange buffoon in office.


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New West Guiana wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Yeah, I didn't consider that Trump's nicknames might be part of the nickname rule, that's a fair point, lol

Oh how much I'd love to say orange ape and oompa loompa every time, but I wish not to see West Guiana with the warn text below it. That is why I just do Trump the orange font with Trump it's not nicknaming(as I am not saying anything), but implying something else. It's skirting the rules, but then again so does everyone.


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Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:No, folks ... We the People have been duped into thinking We Have Chosen. I think that may be the only thing the ridiculous orange baboon has been right on - this system is rigged. It's set up to continue to support the people in power, their cronies, their hangers-on, and take advantage of We the People. And they, the biased media (on both major sides, btw - believe it or not, in spite of all the fighting, it is really just two sides of the same dirty coin), and their polls, 'fact-reviews' and other bits and bobs are hard at work 24/7 to be sure we continue to just sit here and suck it up.

They have us at one another's throats. They have us more divided today than I think our nation has ever been. They have us angry, they have us belligerent, they have us being everything we shouldn't be, and not nearly enough being what we should - and encouraging the same in others.

And until we stand up, united again, and tell them just where they can sod the hell off, and take back our country from the corrupt lifetime politicians and power schemes that have been growing for decades here, it is not, regardless of who gets installed in the top seat, going to change. It will simply flip-flop back and forth, with each side blaming the other, while they both benefit from the chaos and confusion going on down below.

They don't care about us. They aren't interested in our well-being. They're concerned with their pocketbooks, their hold on power, their perks, their corporate backers, their big bank supporters, their foreign investors. And anyone telling you otherwise is either snowed by it, or in on it at this point.

I'm not one for outrageous conspiracy theories, but all the observation I've been doing leads me right to this point. And I don't know about you folks, but I am fed the fuck up with it all, and ready to see this house cleaned and put in order. The way things are is ridiculous, and our leadership - whether Republican or Democrat - ain't gonna do a damn thing to fix it that matters. That would upset the balance they've worked for, and largely achieved. And it does not benefit us one iota. Nor will it, ever, in any meaningful way.


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The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man wrote:Dark Patrol ~ (apologies to DEVO for "Smart Patrol")

Trump's big in the world
I'm tired of his soup du jour
He's big in this world
Wanna end his racist tactics tour

Afraid nobody around me
Understands my potato
Think I'm only his fan boy
Looking for a deal to Mexico

Trump's big in the world
I'm tired of this fucking whore
He's been with my girl
I wanna end his wordy spastic tour

Afraid nobody around me
Understands my potato
Thinks I'm only his fan boy
Looking for a deal to Mexico

Trump's big in the world
And I'm tired of this fucking bore
He's been with my girl
I wanna end his prophylactic tour

Afraid nobody around here
Comprehends my potato
Guess I'm just a thud boy
Looking for a deal to Mexico

We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shoot the holes in the pols

We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shoot the pols full of holes

We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shove the pols in the holes...


We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shove the pols in the holes

Wait a minute, something's wrong
He's the man from the past
He's here to do us a favor
A little human sacrifice
It's just supply and demand


Mr. Kamikazi, Mrs. DNC?
He's an altruistic pervert,
Mr. GOP! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to mend some brains

Mr. Kamikazi, Mr. GOP?
She's an altruistic pervert,
Mrs. DNC! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to mend some brains now

Mr. Kamikazi, Mrs. DNC?
He's an altruistic pervert,
Mr. GOP! Mr. Kamikazi's
He's here to express...

Wait a minute, something's wrong
He's a man with a plan
His rifle's pointing at zero
Now we must sacrifice ourselves
That Donny asshole must live
Okay, we'll never ever forgive

Orange monkey wants a word with you...

Mr. Kamikazi, Mr. GOP?
She's an altruistic pervert,
Mrs. DNC! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to bleed some brains now

Mr. Kamikazi, Mrs. DNC?
He's an altruistic pervert
Mr. GOP! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to bleed some brains

Mr. Kamikazi, Mr. GOP?
She's an altruistic pervert
Mrs. DNC! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to express himself

1, 2, 3, 4 ....vote.

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Postby The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:57 pm

May I ask what the problem is with political nicknaming in the first place?
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:11 pm

The Holy Empire of the Spaghetti Monster wrote:May I ask what the problem is with political nicknaming in the first place?

It's trolling, aimed at getting rise out of people.
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:14 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Addressed.

And knock it off with the giant text. We can see a church by daylight.

I'm going to appeal this decision.

If these posters can say Orange Ape, Orange Monkey, Orange Baboon, and Orange Buffoon. And then not get warned for it, then I can say Orange Menace.
viewtopic.php?p=29758013#p2975801
Conserative Morality wrote:I can't believe so many people are willing to sell out to the Russians for the sake of seeing an orange buffoon in office.


viewtopic.php?p=29720196#p29720196
New West Guiana wrote:Oh how much I'd love to say orange ape and oompa loompa every time, but I wish not to see West Guiana with the warn text below it. That is why I just do Trump the orange font with Trump it's not nicknaming(as I am not saying anything), but implying something else. It's skirting the rules, but then again so does everyone.


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Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:No, folks ... We the People have been duped into thinking We Have Chosen. I think that may be the only thing the ridiculous orange baboon has been right on - this system is rigged. It's set up to continue to support the people in power, their cronies, their hangers-on, and take advantage of We the People. And they, the biased media (on both major sides, btw - believe it or not, in spite of all the fighting, it is really just two sides of the same dirty coin), and their polls, 'fact-reviews' and other bits and bobs are hard at work 24/7 to be sure we continue to just sit here and suck it up.

They have us at one another's throats. They have us more divided today than I think our nation has ever been. They have us angry, they have us belligerent, they have us being everything we shouldn't be, and not nearly enough being what we should - and encouraging the same in others.

And until we stand up, united again, and tell them just where they can sod the hell off, and take back our country from the corrupt lifetime politicians and power schemes that have been growing for decades here, it is not, regardless of who gets installed in the top seat, going to change. It will simply flip-flop back and forth, with each side blaming the other, while they both benefit from the chaos and confusion going on down below.

They don't care about us. They aren't interested in our well-being. They're concerned with their pocketbooks, their hold on power, their perks, their corporate backers, their big bank supporters, their foreign investors. And anyone telling you otherwise is either snowed by it, or in on it at this point.

I'm not one for outrageous conspiracy theories, but all the observation I've been doing leads me right to this point. And I don't know about you folks, but I am fed the fuck up with it all, and ready to see this house cleaned and put in order. The way things are is ridiculous, and our leadership - whether Republican or Democrat - ain't gonna do a damn thing to fix it that matters. That would upset the balance they've worked for, and largely achieved. And it does not benefit us one iota. Nor will it, ever, in any meaningful way.


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The Guaranteed Eternal Sanctuary Man wrote:Dark Patrol ~ (apologies to DEVO for "Smart Patrol")

Trump's big in the world
I'm tired of his soup du jour
He's big in this world
Wanna end his racist tactics tour

Afraid nobody around me
Understands my potato
Think I'm only his fan boy
Looking for a deal to Mexico

Trump's big in the world
I'm tired of this fucking whore
He's been with my girl
I wanna end his wordy spastic tour

Afraid nobody around me
Understands my potato
Thinks I'm only his fan boy
Looking for a deal to Mexico

Trump's big in the world
And I'm tired of this fucking bore
He's been with my girl
I wanna end his prophylactic tour

Afraid nobody around here
Comprehends my potato
Guess I'm just a thud boy
Looking for a deal to Mexico

We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shoot the holes in the pols

We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shoot the pols full of holes

We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shove the pols in the holes...


We're Dark Patrol, nowhere to go
Edgar Allen Poe plot conjures up reality
Rifle stocks, we bomb, our guns are cocked
We shove the pols in the holes

Wait a minute, something's wrong
He's the man from the past
He's here to do us a favor
A little human sacrifice
It's just supply and demand


Mr. Kamikazi, Mrs. DNC?
He's an altruistic pervert,
Mr. GOP! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to mend some brains

Mr. Kamikazi, Mr. GOP?
She's an altruistic pervert,
Mrs. DNC! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to mend some brains now

Mr. Kamikazi, Mrs. DNC?
He's an altruistic pervert,
Mr. GOP! Mr. Kamikazi's
He's here to express...

Wait a minute, something's wrong
He's a man with a plan
His rifle's pointing at zero
Now we must sacrifice ourselves
That Donny asshole must live
Okay, we'll never ever forgive

Orange monkey wants a word with you...

Mr. Kamikazi, Mr. GOP?
She's an altruistic pervert,
Mrs. DNC! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to bleed some brains now

Mr. Kamikazi, Mrs. DNC?
He's an altruistic pervert
Mr. GOP! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to bleed some brains

Mr. Kamikazi, Mr. GOP?
She's an altruistic pervert
Mrs. DNC! Mr. Kamikazi's
Here to express himself

1, 2, 3, 4 ....vote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQvEu6G-i_0

Instructions: Copy link above, open another tab, paste link, play the song there as you read along back here on this tab. :)

Second opinion requested.

Instead of piling up unreported posts, show me a Mod saying one of those was not actionable and I'll happily rescind the warning.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:20 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm going to appeal this decision.

If these posters can say Orange Ape, Orange Monkey, Orange Baboon, and Orange Buffoon. And then not get warned for it, then I can say Orange Menace.
viewtopic.php?p=29758013#p2975801


viewtopic.php?p=29720196#p29720196


viewtopic.php?p=29694152#p29694152


viewtopic.php?p=29705092#p29705092

Second opinion requested.

Instead of piling up unreported posts, show me a Mod saying one of those was not actionable and I'll happily rescind the warning.

viewtopic.php?p=29738401#p29738401 Rolled up newspaper of NWG's post
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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:40 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Second opinion requested.

Instead of piling up unreported posts, show me a Mod saying one of those was not actionable and I'll happily rescind the warning.

viewtopic.php?p=29738401#p29738401 Rolled up newspaper of NWG's post

Kyrusia took NWG to task for trying to tap-dance around the trolling rules that govern nicknaming. In no way did Kyru say the post was blameless.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:46 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:viewtopic.php?p=29738401#p29738401 Rolled up newspaper of NWG's post

Kyrusia took NWG to task for trying to tap-dance around the trolling rules that govern nicknaming. In no way did Kyru say the post was blameless.

Ok thank you Farn.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:19 am

My second opinion is this:

The warning stands; 'orange menace' is actionable political nicknaming.

However, I also concede a certain level of inconsistency here prior to Farnhamia's warning. From what I can tell, this is because other instances of 'Orange' cited in Thermodalia's appeal weren't reported rather than mods deliberately overlooked nicknaming cases of 'orange [noun]', but clearly an inadvertent impression of inconsistency has been given - though note that where a case of typing 'Trump' in orange font was reported, Kyrusia issued an immediate cease and desist order, with a clear threat that continuing the practice would be treated less leniently.

On the basis that ex post facto enforcement of a clarified ruling would be unfair, I won't go back and retrospectively warn all of the individuals cited in Thermodalia's appeal. However, I do accept that Thermodalia's appeal has helped to emphasise that this practice is more widespread than we might have realised, and that where cases of 'orange [noun]' are used to refer to Trump from this point on, we will consider them actionable where they are reported. In that sense, the appeal has been useful and constructive.

So we will strive for consistency moving forward.

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Postby Forsher » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:16 am

The Archregimancy wrote:My second opinion is this:

The warning stands; 'orange menace' is actionable political nicknaming.

However, I also concede a certain level of inconsistency here prior to Farnhamia's warning. From what I can tell, this is because other instances of 'Orange' cited in Thermodalia's appeal weren't reported rather than mods deliberately overlooked nicknaming cases of 'orange [noun]', but clearly an inadvertent impression of inconsistency has been given - though note that where a case of typing 'Trump' in orange font was reported, Kyrusia issued an immediate cease and desist order, with a clear threat that continuing the practice would be treated less leniently.

On the basis that ex post facto enforcement of a clarified ruling would be unfair, I won't go back and retrospectively warn all of the individuals cited in Thermodalia's appeal. However, I do accept that Thermodalia's appeal has helped to emphasise that this practice is more widespread than we might have realised, and that where cases of 'orange [noun]' are used to refer to Trump from this point on, we will consider them actionable where they are reported. In that sense, the appeal has been useful and constructive.

So we will strive for consistency moving forward.


When I read Thermodalia's post I thought the use of "the orange menace" was meaning "that's because of their obsessive fear and dislike for Trump, or, as they say, the orange menace" rather than explicitly calling Trump (a) orange and (b) a menace. Therefore, I am wondering (as it seems this wasn't Thermodalia's usage), if for whatever insane reason I decided to imitate the construction but really did use it with this meaning, would that be a problem? Or, alternatively, has it always been the case that saying something like, "The alt right is so obsessed with defeating the 'democraps' they never bother to properly examine [subject of thread]" is forbidden and I have just not noticed?
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:52 am

The Archregimancy wrote:My second opinion is this:

The warning stands; 'orange menace' is actionable political nicknaming.

However, I also concede a certain level of inconsistency here prior to Farnhamia's warning. From what I can tell, this is because other instances of 'Orange' cited in Thermodalia's appeal weren't reported rather than mods deliberately overlooked nicknaming cases of 'orange [noun]', but clearly an inadvertent impression of inconsistency has been given - though note that where a case of typing 'Trump' in orange font was reported, Kyrusia issued an immediate cease and desist order, with a clear threat that continuing the practice would be treated less leniently.

On the basis that ex post facto enforcement of a clarified ruling would be unfair, I won't go back and retrospectively warn all of the individuals cited in Thermodalia's appeal. However, I do accept that Thermodalia's appeal has helped to emphasise that this practice is more widespread than we might have realised, and that where cases of 'orange [noun]' are used to refer to Trump from this point on, we will consider them actionable where they are reported. In that sense, the appeal has been useful and constructive.

So we will strive for consistency moving forward.

Thanks for the ruling and um your welcome I guess.



Forsher wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:My second opinion is this:

The warning stands; 'orange menace' is actionable political nicknaming.

However, I also concede a certain level of inconsistency here prior to Farnhamia's warning. From what I can tell, this is because other instances of 'Orange' cited in Thermodalia's appeal weren't reported rather than mods deliberately overlooked nicknaming cases of 'orange [noun]', but clearly an inadvertent impression of inconsistency has been given - though note that where a case of typing 'Trump' in orange font was reported, Kyrusia issued an immediate cease and desist order, with a clear threat that continuing the practice would be treated less leniently.

On the basis that ex post facto enforcement of a clarified ruling would be unfair, I won't go back and retrospectively warn all of the individuals cited in Thermodalia's appeal. However, I do accept that Thermodalia's appeal has helped to emphasise that this practice is more widespread than we might have realised, and that where cases of 'orange [noun]' are used to refer to Trump from this point on, we will consider them actionable where they are reported. In that sense, the appeal has been useful and constructive.

So we will strive for consistency moving forward.


When I read Thermodalia's post I thought the use of "the orange menace" was meaning "that's because of their obsessive fear and dislike for Trump, or, as they say, the orange menace" rather than explicitly calling Trump (a) orange and (b) a menace. Therefore, I am wondering (as it seems this wasn't Thermodalia's usage), if for whatever insane reason I decided to imitate the construction but really did use it with this meaning, would that be a problem? Or, alternatively, has it always been the case that saying something like, "The alt right is so obsessed with defeating the 'democraps' they never bother to properly examine [subject of thread]" is forbidden and I have just not noticed?

Um what? Anyway what's done is done, the mods don't take third party appeals. So what you are doing is spamming moderation.
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Thermodolia wrote:Thanks for the ruling and um your welcome I guess.



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Postby Gauthier » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:57 am

Playing out an old worn out right wing meme about Hillary Clinton being an emotionless robot:

Balkenreich wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What I don't like is that this is going to dominate the news for the next several days while Trump gets a pass on everything


Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.


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Thermodolia wrote:Nah she knows what human emotion is. Now Ted Cruz, there's a guy that has no idea what human emotion or facial expressions are.


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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:07 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Thanks for the ruling and um your welcome I guess.



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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:08 pm

Gauthier wrote:Playing out an old worn out right wing meme about Hillary Clinton being an emotionless robot:

Balkenreich wrote:
Take solace in the fact that Clinton doesnt know what human emotion is. At least Gary and Trump know what they are.


Balkenreich wrote:
Impossible, Synths dont know what emotion is.

A meme is not quite the same as a nickname. I'm calling not actionable on both.
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Postby Khadgar » Fri Sep 09, 2016 5:57 am

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Dahon wrote:
Many of the interventions cited in your articles followed years if not decades of internal turmoil following the collapse of central authority (usually ruthlessly authoritarian) with the arrival of armies directed by previous administrations. Whether or not following up on the messes created by previous administrations is debatable, but I think it's unfair to put the blame for those messes squarely on Hillary when she didn't start it in the first place.

Iraq and Afghanistan? Yes. Inherited chaos from Bush's adventures, both of which however were backed by Clinton. Libya and Syria, nope, all product of the Obama and Clinton administration. I mean you could argue that they've learned from previous debacles by refusing to deploy ground troops. But then again they're actively undermining established states by effectively arming and supplying jihadists so...

At any rate you lot seem to be so used to fending off attacks from Trumpites on this topic, that you think I'm personally going after Clinton in some moral emotional way. In this case all I'm saying is judging from her words and deeds she will be an interventionist hawkish president on foreign policy.


I've seen that word used quite a bit and I doubt it's kosher but a general Knock It Off might be in order.

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Postby USS Monitor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:02 am

Futrellia wrote:
Darjihad wrote:Johnson / Weld 2016 campaign ads on local TV and radio in heavy rotation here in eastern Missouri (St. Louis and surrounding broadcast footprint)

I will say, in my 29 years of membership in the LP I have never heard an LP candidate of any level advertise locally. Quite a show of organization that even the Trump dumpster fire hasn't managed to do in this "battleground" state. I don't even think there are any Trump yard signs within 50 miles of here, and my commute to work takes me through miles of conservative rednecks and affluent suburbs.

The reason i am here though, is the fact that while i may be a Constitutionist, and my ideals match MOSTLY with CP candidate Darrell Castle, i know that there is a very slim chance he will make it past Gary Johnson in the polls. Therefore, to avoid Killary Clinton or dumpster fire Trump, i'm voting for LP candidate Gary Johnson. Although, i'm not sure how his voters might react to his "What is Aleppo" fiasco.

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Postby Finlarvat » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:33 am

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=382740&p=29856499&hilit=shillary#p29856499
I honestly don't know if this mention of "Shillary" is actionable. There is indeed a Gerald Drumpf in this roleplay, but (according to a search of the topic) this is the first Shillary I've seen so far.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:51 pm

Finlarvat wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=382740&p=29856499&hilit=shillary#p29856499
I honestly don't know if this mention of "Shillary" is actionable. There is indeed a Gerald Drumpf in this roleplay, but (according to a search of the topic) this is the first Shillary I've seen so far.


I think we can give more leeway to an RP about American politics.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:58 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=29852500#p29852500


Didn't ignore this one, BTW; handed out an informal 'knock it off' for now. Will escalate if he doesn't restrain himself in future.

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