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I am calling for the Mods to release the TGs. What are they hiding? Who are they protecting? There is obviously a larger conspiracy at hand here. These sexual deviants are merely a distraction, a tool being used by the powers that be. For all we know, these agregious crimes never even occured, and are merely being framed. The only way we can be sure that the mods have our best interests at heart is if the TGs are made public, so we can confirm what they say is true. They wouldn't be hiding them if there wasn't something to hide.

#Sexghazi

New Rob Halfordia wrote:I am calling for the Mods to release the TGs. What are they hiding? Who are they protecting? There is obviously a larger conspiracy at hand here. These sexual deviants are merely a distraction, a tool being used by the powers that be. For all we know, these agregious crimes never even occured, and are merely being framed. The only way we can be sure that the mods have our best interests at heart is if the TGs are made public, so we can confirm what they say is true. They wouldn't be hiding them if there wasn't something to hide.

#Sextghazi

Well, the TGs did contain adult content, which is against site rules.

New Rob Halfordia wrote:I am calling for the Mods to release the TGs. What are they hiding? Who are they protecting? There is obviously a larger conspiracy at hand here. These sexual deviants are merely a distraction, a tool being used by the powers that be. For all we know, these agregious crimes never even occured, and are merely being framed. The only way we can be sure that the mods have our best interests at heart is if the TGs are made public, so we can confirm what they say is true. They wouldn't be hiding them if there wasn't something to hide.

#Sextghazi

Clearly.

If the issue preventing them from doing so is Privacy, why not remove the names from the TGs? There is nothing stopping them from doing so. Perhaps even screenshots of said rule-breaking, because otherwise, the only ones who have seen the "deplorable behavior" is the TG Sender, Receiver, and Mod. How do we know there isn't some other underlying cause to the Annihilation Wave? In other actions by Mods, we can clearly see their red text and the rule-breaking behavior as an example. Why should this case be any different?

Second, why were Forum Mods given authority to go through Telegrams? Shouldn't that be Game Admins?

New Neros wrote:

New Rob Halfordia wrote:I am calling for the Mods to release the TGs. What are they hiding? Who are they protecting? There is obviously a larger conspiracy at hand here. These sexual deviants are merely a distraction, a tool being used by the powers that be. For all we know, these agregious crimes never even occured, and are merely being framed. The only way we can be sure that the mods have our best interests at heart is if the TGs are made public, so we can confirm what they say is true. They wouldn't be hiding them if there wasn't something to hide.

#Sextghazi

Clearly.

If the issue preventing them from doing so is Privacy, why not remove the names from the TGs? There is nothing stopping them from doing so. Perhaps even screenshots of said rule-breaking, because otherwise, the only ones who have seen the "deplorable behavior" is the TG Sender, Receiver, and Mod. How do we know there isn't some other underlying cause to the Annihilation Wave? In other actions by Mods, we can clearly see their red text and the rule-breaking behavior as an example. Why should this case be any different?

Second, why were Forum Mods given authority to go through Telegrams? Shouldn't that be Game Admins?

Do not speak Reppy's name in vain!

She is indeed a game admin!

Kractero wrote:

New Neros wrote:
Clearly.

If the issue preventing them from doing so is Privacy, why not remove the names from the TGs? There is nothing stopping them from doing so. Perhaps even screenshots of said rule-breaking, because otherwise, the only ones who have seen the "deplorable behavior" is the TG Sender, Receiver, and Mod. How do we know there isn't some other underlying cause to the Annihilation Wave? In other actions by Mods, we can clearly see their red text and the rule-breaking behavior as an example. Why should this case be any different?

Second, why were Forum Mods given authority to go through Telegrams? Shouldn't that be Game Admins?

Do not speak Reppy's name in vain!

She is indeed a game admin!

She is a Forum Admin, who was offered to become a Game Admin but declined, according to Mod Rankings.

Was this a Forum-related issue or a Game-side issue?

New Neros wrote:

Kractero wrote:Do not speak Reppy's name in vain!

She is indeed a game admin!

She is a Forum Admin, who was offered to become a Game Admin but declined, according to Mod Rankings.

Was this a Forum-related issue or a Game-side issue?

The Game Modetator badge on her nation page is not there for you?

Dang, need to fix my computer.

Kractero wrote:

New Neros wrote:She is a Forum Admin, who was offered to become a Game Admin but declined, according to Mod Rankings.

Was this a Forum-related issue or a Game-side issue?

The Game Modetator badge on her nation page is not there for you?

Dang, need to fix my computer.

So, the Mods have been hiding this promotion from us? What purpose does that serve? On here, she is a Forum Mod, but her Nation Page does indeed say that Rep is a Game Mod!

When can we expect to see some transparency?

Esternial wrote:

Rikatan wrote:I cannot do such a thing, but I do believe that people will tend to be associated with everything that happened instead of none of it.

Aye, that's what worries me, too. I've seen a couple "disgusting" comments in regard to these people and in some cases it can be entirely unjustified.

I know a couple of people on that list and I wouldn't want them being discriminated against like some bunch of sexual offenders.

So I do hope Moderation takes this thread down soon.

SeX offenders deserve to be treated as such, but that's another conversation.

Underage cybersex can be considered child porn. The site could get sued for merely tolerating it. they have to take it seriously, and they have to show they are taking it seriously.

I do tend to agree with you that the announcement was a bit .... crude. But not only do they have to "handle" it, they need to send the no tolerance message loud and clear.

Now draw all the other lessons you want. There is no privacy on this site Moderation will look anything on the site, if they feel they are required too.

New Neros wrote:She is a Forum Admin, who was offered to become a Game Admin but declined, according to Mod Rankings.

Not quite.

NERVUN wrote:Forum Admin: The most senior rank a moderator can hold. Forum admins handle the more technical aspects of forum maintenance - adding new subforums, tweaking code, adding features, and more.

What you described, with some differences, is the Senior Forum Mod. Someone who is offered Game Mod powers but declined.

In any case, a Forum Admin is just a Game Mod with additional powers over the forum backend.

New Neros wrote:

New Rob Halfordia wrote:I am calling for the Mods to release the TGs. What are they hiding? Who are they protecting? There is obviously a larger conspiracy at hand here. These sexual deviants are merely a distraction, a tool being used by the powers that be. For all we know, these agregious crimes never even occured, and are merely being framed. The only way we can be sure that the mods have our best interests at heart is if the TGs are made public, so we can confirm what they say is true. They wouldn't be hiding them if there wasn't something to hide.

#Sextghazi

Clearly.

If the issue preventing them from doing so is Privacy, why not remove the names from the TGs? There is nothing stopping them from doing so. Perhaps even screenshots of said rule-breaking, because otherwise, the only ones who have seen the "deplorable behavior" is the TG Sender, Receiver, and Mod. How do we know there isn't some other underlying cause to the Annihilation Wave? In other actions by Mods, we can clearly see their red text and the rule-breaking behavior as an example. Why should this case be any different?

Second, why were Forum Mods given authority to go through Telegrams? Shouldn't that be Game Admins?

Becasue they contain adult content, which is clearly banned, as outlined by the ToS. Seriously, you agreed to it when you signed up. If any mod posted those TGs, they would rightly be banned as well, for posting obscene content.

So, because the site rules say no, these secretive documents can't be released by the mods? I ask you, citizens of NS, who writes these rules? That's right. The mods. This entire thing has likely been orchestrated for several years know, the product of a chain of lies that began in times of antiquity. Clearly, the rules were written to cater to this plot. And when madmen define what mad is, how can we know that our best interests are being served unless we see what they describe as madness for ourselves?

Ethel mermania wrote:

Esternial wrote:Aye, that's what worries me, too. I've seen a couple "disgusting" comments in regard to these people and in some cases it can be entirely unjustified.

I know a couple of people on that list and I wouldn't want them being discriminated against like some bunch of sexual offenders.

So I do hope Moderation takes this thread down soon.

SeX offenders deserve to be treated as such, but that's another conversation.

Underage cybersex can be considered child porn. The site could get sued for merely tolerating it. they have to take it seriously, and they have to show they are taking it seriously.

I do tend to agree with you that the announcement was a bit .... crude. But not only do they have to "handle" it, they need to send the no tolerance message loud and clear.

Now draw all the other lessons you want. There is no privacy on this site Moderation will look anything on the site, if they feel they are required too.

If any took place. How do we know? We need to see for ourselves and make the judgement call on this.

Kringalia wrote:

New Neros wrote:She is a Forum Admin, who was offered to become a Game Admin but declined, according to Mod Rankings.

Not quite.

NERVUN wrote:Forum Admin: The most senior rank a moderator can hold. Forum admins handle the more technical aspects of forum maintenance - adding new subforums, tweaking code, adding features, and more.

What you described, with some differences, is the Senior Forum Mod. Someone who is offered Game Mod powers but declined.

In any case, a Forum Admin is just a Game Mod with additional powers over the forum backend.

Nowhere in that job description is trolling through TGs, lusting for bannable offenses. What is stopping a Mod from going through TGs between a rival game region besides their "integrity"?

Frenline Delpha wrote:

New Neros wrote:
Clearly.

If the issue preventing them from doing so is Privacy, why not remove the names from the TGs? There is nothing stopping them from doing so. Perhaps even screenshots of said rule-breaking, because otherwise, the only ones who have seen the "deplorable behavior" is the TG Sender, Receiver, and Mod. How do we know there isn't some other underlying cause to the Annihilation Wave? In other actions by Mods, we can clearly see their red text and the rule-breaking behavior as an example. Why should this case be any different?

Second, why were Forum Mods given authority to go through Telegrams? Shouldn't that be Game Admins?

Becasue they contain adult content, which is clearly banned, as outlined by the ToS. Seriously, you agreed to it when you signed up. If any mod posted those TGs, they would rightly be banned as well, for posting obscene content.

They do not get banned from replying to rule-breakers, despite containing the said rule-breaking in their post.

New Rob Halfordia wrote:I ask you, citizens of NS, who writes these rules?

The admins.

Leppikania wrote:

New Rob Halfordia wrote:I ask you, citizens of NS, who writes these rules?

The admins.

Well, technically Max himself.

Leppikania wrote:

New Rob Halfordia wrote:I ask you, citizens of NS, who writes these rules?

The admins.

As approved Max Barry. The owner.

The Ben Boys wrote:

Leppikania wrote:The admins.

As approved Max Barry. The owner.

Has anyone besides the Admins even seen Max on NS? Surely for a site he lords over, his presence would more hard-felt than acting through the questionable will of Admins and Mods, prone to far more human errors than us normal folk.

I oppose this.

I'm shocked.

New Neros wrote:

The Ben Boys wrote:As approved Max Barry. The owner.

Has anyone besides the Admins even seen Max on NS? Surely for a site he lords over, his presence would more hard-felt than acting through the questionable will of Admins and Mods, prone to far more human errors than us normal folk.

New Rob Halfordia wrote:So, because the site rules say no, these secretive documents can't be released by the mods? I ask you, citizens of NS, who writes these rules? That's right. The mods. This entire thing has likely been orchestrated for several years know, the product of a chain of lies that began in times of antiquity. Clearly, the rules were written to cater to this plot. And when madmen define what mad is, how can we know that our best interests are being served unless we see what they describe as madness for ourselves?

Do either of you have anything constructive to add? Or are you just here to post in bad faith? While it's conceivable that moderation set their sights on this set of nations for already known sexually related offences and decided to prioritize this sweep over other things, even that isn't anything like what you're claiming.

Kelinfort wrote:I oppose this.

Likewise.

Kelinfort wrote:I oppose this.

Why would you oppose the cleaning of this non-OKCupid forum from degenerate and immature acts?

Rioghachd na h-Alba wrote:

Kelinfort wrote:I oppose this.

Likewise.

#AbsolutelyNoVendetta

Prolix Debate wrote:

Kelinfort wrote:I oppose this.

Why would you oppose the cleaning of this non-OKCupid forum from degenerate and immature acts?

It was a matter of time before someone came in here saying 'degenerates'. I'm astounded it took as long as it did.

Arkadacia wrote:

Prolix Debate wrote:
Why would you oppose the cleaning of this non-OKCupid forum from degenerate and immature acts?

It was a matter of time before someone came in here saying 'degenerates'. I'm astounded it took as long as it did.

It is an apt word to use, Unless you would like to prove me wrong.

Prolix Debate wrote:

Kelinfort wrote:I oppose this.

Why would you oppose the cleaning of this non-OKCupid forum from degenerate and immature acts?

I don't want to see over PG-13 content on the forums, but in honesty, if it's between adults in privacy, I don't mind.

Regardless, I know Max sets the Rules and there's liability concerns. Fine. I get it. But dammit, his could've been handled a lot better. This is deplorable.