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Postby CoraSpia » Sun May 01, 2016 2:50 am

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Ganonsyoni wrote:I think it is a site-wide PG-13 policy, not just forums.

Eeyup. If the address in your browser's URL bar includes "nationstates.net" in it, PG-13 applies. Like was noted in the announcement post itself, although we don't expressly go randomly looking around for cybersexing, if we come across it in the course of investigating something else, we cannot just ignore it.

It might be worth putting that as a message on threads which have listed something like 'this thread is pg-13: if you want to roleplay erotic scenes, take it to tgs.'
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun May 01, 2016 2:50 am

Rioghachd na h-Alba wrote:It would still be nice to be able to retrieve stuff from a deleted nation, if not somehow recover said nation (especially if it was just a one time thing at someone else's instigation).

You can recover factbooks and such through this page.
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Postby New Grestin » Sun May 01, 2016 2:51 am

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Ganonsyoni wrote:If you couldn't tell, this site has a PG-13 policy. E-RP isn't allowed. We got hit, we learn from it. Those with a worse history got kicked off. Standard stuff.

is it standard stuff to parade our crucified corpses around though? I do not fight the ruling itself, but this thread is just shaming those who got banned in a way I've never seen before in 6+ years of being here.

Someone needed to be made an example of, evidently.

Just so happened that a fairly good chunk of folks drew the short stick.
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Postby Ranko Kanzaki » Sun May 01, 2016 2:52 am

Coraspia wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:Eeyup. If the address in your browser's URL bar includes "nationstates.net" in it, PG-13 applies. Like was noted in the announcement post itself, although we don't expressly go randomly looking around for cybersexing, if we come across it in the course of investigating something else, we cannot just ignore it.

It might be worth putting that as a message on threads which have listed something like 'this thread is pg-13: if you want to roleplay erotic scenes, take it to tgs.'

"The whole site is PG13"
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun May 01, 2016 2:52 am

Well that's what happens when you break the rules.
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Postby Ranko Kanzaki » Sun May 01, 2016 2:53 am

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Reploid Productions wrote:I will note that this investigation was the first and only time in more than ten years of modding that I seriously, absolutely NEEDED a drink. Achievement bloody unlocked, Nationstates, drove a mod to drink. (Only one cider, though.)


You could be a bit less of a drama queen about it, Reppy.

*points at the title of the thread*
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Postby Rioghachd na h-Alba » Sun May 01, 2016 2:54 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
Rioghachd na h-Alba wrote:It would still be nice to be able to retrieve stuff from a deleted nation, if not somehow recover said nation (especially if it was just a one time thing at someone else's instigation).

You can recover factbooks and such through this page.


A lot of the stuff I had was saved in drafts, and I haven't really done anything game side (in terms of actual nation roleplaying and such) for years.


Still, I'm thinking that temporary bans rather than outright deletions would serve as an appropriate warning, at least for the lesser offenders.
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Postby Ymir ridge » Sun May 01, 2016 2:54 am

Kyrusia wrote:The punishments handed-down for cheating through the use of Predator only had two Delete-on-Sight orders executed; this one had ten. Further, considering the degree to which the rules were violated here and the sheer volume of such, combined with the cross-board posting and familiarity many of those impacted have with various communities across the forum, it was decided a global announcement was the best way to get across to everyone involved and to everyone on the forum this conduct is simply not acceptable.

As Reploid noted: we don't go randomly looking for this sort of stuff. Believe me, it's no fun.

A simple 'deleted for sharing adult material through telegrams, this sort of stuff will not go' would have sufficed
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun May 01, 2016 2:55 am

New Grestin wrote:
Ymir ridge wrote:is it standard stuff to parade our crucified corpses around though? I do not fight the ruling itself, but this thread is just shaming those who got banned in a way I've never seen before in 6+ years of being here.

Someone needed to be made an example of, evidently.

Just so happened that a fairly good chunk of folks drew the short stick.


I just have an issue with the thread title (Well, I have an issue with the whole ruling, but I think me having issues with mod rulings is getting too commonplace.) The title sounds like something Donald Trump would come up with. Simply calling it 'erotic roleplay punishments' would be fine: the flashy title is unnecisary though.
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Postby Veceria » Sun May 01, 2016 2:55 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:Well that's what happens when you break the rules.
Reploid Productions wrote:I will note that this investigation was the first and only time in more than ten years of modding that I seriously, absolutely NEEDED a drink. Achievement bloody unlocked, Nationstates, drove a mod to drink. (Only one cider, though.)


You could be a bit less of a drama queen about it, Reppy.

Some people react differently to such stuff. I've seen others "break" on less. Was a mod on another site, we had several who put down that title due to their "work".
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun May 01, 2016 2:57 am

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The Grey Wolf wrote:Well that's what happens when you break the rules.


You could be a bit less of a drama queen about it, Reppy.

Some people react differently to such stuff. I've seen others "break" on less. Was a mod on another site, we had several who put down that title due to their "work".

Oh, if the mod team would all put down their titles.
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Postby Ranko Kanzaki » Sun May 01, 2016 2:58 am

Coraspia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Some people react differently to such stuff. I've seen others "break" on less. Was a mod on another site, we had several who put down that title due to their "work".

Oh, if the mod team would all put down their titles.
*stares longingly at the dream of an unmoderated ns.*

Hah. One can dream, one can dream.
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Postby Eyseozafesm » Sun May 01, 2016 2:58 am

Coraspia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Some people react differently to such stuff. I've seen others "break" on less. Was a mod on another site, we had several who put down that title due to their "work".

Oh, if the mod team would all put down their titles.
*stares longingly at the dream of an unmoderated ns.*


*shudders at the thought of that, given this thread*

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Postby New Grestin » Sun May 01, 2016 3:00 am

Coraspia wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Someone needed to be made an example of, evidently.

Just so happened that a fairly good chunk of folks drew the short stick.


I just have an issue with the thread title (Well, I have an issue with the whole ruling, but I think me having issues with mod rulings is getting too commonplace.) The title sounds like something Donald Trump would come up with. Simply calling it 'erotic roleplay punishments' would be fine: the flashy title is unnecisary though.

It is what it is, really.

The title presumably is there to grab attention. It did that swimmingly, and if it wasn't intentional, it at least gets the point across. It's a little overdramatic referring to the event as a "Massacre", but considering this, along with the recent Predator Bust, it seems somewhat appropriate.

The Mods may be imperfect, but this kind of thing just isn't welcome in these here parts. It's likely for the best that this kind of behavior is heavily discouraged.
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Postby Veceria » Sun May 01, 2016 3:00 am

Coraspia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Some people react differently to such stuff. I've seen others "break" on less. Was a mod on another site, we had several who put down that title due to their "work".

Oh, if the mod team would all put down their titles.
*stares longingly at the dream of an unmoderated ns.*

Really not a good idea. The site would shut down in an hour.
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Sun May 01, 2016 3:00 am

Ymir ridge wrote:
Kyrusia wrote:The punishments handed-down for cheating through the use of Predator only had two Delete-on-Sight orders executed; this one had ten. Further, considering the degree to which the rules were violated here and the sheer volume of such, combined with the cross-board posting and familiarity many of those impacted have with various communities across the forum, it was decided a global announcement was the best way to get across to everyone involved and to everyone on the forum this conduct is simply not acceptable.

As Reploid noted: we don't go randomly looking for this sort of stuff. Believe me, it's no fun.

A simple 'deleted for sharing adult material through telegrams, this sort of stuff will not go' would have sufficed

There's minors involved.
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun May 01, 2016 3:02 am

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Coraspia wrote:Oh, if the mod team would all put down their titles.
*stares longingly at the dream of an unmoderated ns.*

Really not a good idea. The site would shut down in an hour.
Mods are really doing (some) good work here. It's not their fault that NS is pg-13.

Yeah, and its not their fault that ns has over-restrictive scripting rules. Or a nonsensical flag policy. Or any other such crap.

They still enforce it though.
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Postby Ymir ridge » Sun May 01, 2016 3:04 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:
Ymir ridge wrote:A simple 'deleted for sharing adult material through telegrams, this sort of stuff will not go' would have sufficed

There's minors involved.

report it to the police if you can prove it, if not, why try to assasinate characters here by making it seem all of us were in on all of this?
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Postby CoraSpia » Sun May 01, 2016 3:05 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:
Ymir ridge wrote:A simple 'deleted for sharing adult material through telegrams, this sort of stuff will not go' would have sufficed

There's minors involved.

Not in all situations, and certainly not in all situations to a degree that would have been prosecuted.
Two high school guys having sex is somewhat different to the sort of stuff we hear about on the tv.
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Postby Veceria » Sun May 01, 2016 3:05 am

Coraspia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Really not a good idea. The site would shut down in an hour.
Mods are really doing (some) good work here. It's not their fault that NS is pg-13.

Yeah, and its not their fault that ns has over-restrictive scripting rules. Or a nonsensical flag policy. Or any other such crap.

They still enforce it though.

Someone has to do it. <insert shrug here>
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Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

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Postby Ranko Kanzaki » Sun May 01, 2016 3:06 am

Veceria wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Yeah, and its not their fault that ns has over-restrictive scripting rules. Or a nonsensical flag policy. Or any other such crap.

They still enforce it though.

Someone has to do it. <insert shrug here>

No, they don't. If something is wrong, someone needs to push to change it.
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Postby Veceria » Sun May 01, 2016 3:07 am

Ranko Kanzaki wrote:
Veceria wrote:Someone has to do it. <insert shrug here>

No, they don't. If something is wrong, someone needs to push to change it.

Send a mail to Max.
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Then suddenly fights broke out because hey, it's the internet.

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Postby Ranko Kanzaki » Sun May 01, 2016 3:09 am

Veceria wrote:
Ranko Kanzaki wrote:No, they don't. If something is wrong, someone needs to push to change it.

Send a mail to Max.

One upset user means nothing, but ten? A hundred? A thousand? Eventually, if people want to change the site for the better, someone will have to take notice.

I see people complain about certain rules all the time, constantly for years, but nothing ever changes.

People realize there are issues, but everyone just seems content to let things be. It's sickening.
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Postby The Peoples of Xaer » Sun May 01, 2016 3:09 am

Coraspia wrote:
Veceria wrote:Really not a good idea. The site would shut down in an hour.
Mods are really doing (some) good work here. It's not their fault that NS is pg-13.

Yeah, and its not their fault that ns has over-restrictive scripting rules. Or a nonsensical flag policy. Or any other such crap.

They still enforce it though.

Is someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to stick around this website with its totally unbearable and unreasonable staff? Are you being held against your will somewhere being coerced to use the site? Do you need us to send help or let law enforcement know you're being held hostage by some sicko who gets their kicks forcing people to use websites they can't stand?

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Postby CoraSpia » Sun May 01, 2016 3:10 am

Veceria wrote:
Ranko Kanzaki wrote:No, they don't. If something is wrong, someone needs to push to change it.

Send a mail to Max.

That would have a far smaller impact than Max being unable to find new mods to enforce his crappy edicts.
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