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[R] Trolling, "Is Atheism a Mental Disorder?" Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:10 pm
by Wallenburg
Archbishop Cranmer wrote:This may seem like a provocative title, however in context I feel there is a reasonable amount of evidence to make this hypothesis.

"Studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 13% of the world's population"
source; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

When we look at how the vast majority of the world's population adhere to some kind of theistic Religion, whether monotheistic, polytheistic or henotheistic. It seems like they're is something fundamental to our neurological wiring, that causes us to seek a God(ess) or God(esses). Something fundamental that causes us to comprehend the idea of a being greater than our selves, something that surpasses this physical Earthly realm...

When we look at the correlation between Pervasive Developmental Disorder's and Atheism, could it be that there is a fundamental defect in the brain wiring of an Atheist that causes them to be unable to comprehend the idea of a being greater than them selves? The very nature of a supernatural entity is an abstract concept that would be very dependent, and sensitive to the condition of one's brain wiring.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OMR ... er&f=false
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ps ... ad-atheism

And if so, would it be possible that in future we may see a prenatal test for Atheism? And if so would you support it? I personally would as if there is even the slightest chance that a neurological disorder could send my Child to hell, I don't think I could live my self knowing, that my and my wife brought them into the world to suffer such a fate. Calvinism, and predestination spring to mind...

But what do, YOU think NSG?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:15 am
by NERVUN
Not trolling.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:18 am
by The Imperium Empires
How in the world is it a mental disorder. It's just not beleiving in God because of a lack of proof.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:21 am
by NERVUN
The Imperium Empires wrote:How in the world is it a mental disorder. It's just not beleiving in God because of a lack of proof.

Please take it to the actual thread in General.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:04 am
by Jetan
NERVUN wrote:Not trolling.

I know I'm not involved so if I get dinged for this I'll take it, but seeing as I was going to report this myself before seeing this thread I have to ask, how exactly is insinuating that atheism is a disorder and that atheists have brain deficiency not trolling?

EDIT: Scratch that "not involved" bit. Surely this reinforces the argument that the OP is trolling:
Archbishop Cranmer wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:thank the existent god that good Christians will never allow the aborting of atheist fetuses. it makes baby jesus cry.

Not necessarily. The Anglican position is that in some cases, such as a threat to the Mother's life should the pregnancy be continued, that abortion is then the lesser evil.

A positive prenatal test result for Atheism, would likely be considered another exception.

"Abortion is evil unless the mother's life is in danger or the kid could be an atheist."

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:30 am
by Esternial
Archbishop Cranmer wrote:
Alaizia wrote:
Sad but true.

Why don't you make one, and we'll see if your theory is right!

Edit: Through I agree, (Roman) Catholicism is likely to also be a neurological disorder.


Wow.

So...how many people more does this guy have to insult? If you give him a number he'd probably comply.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:53 am
by Hirota
To expand upon Jetans post:

The original poster, elsewhere called abortion "the murder of defenceless, unborn babies"

Since the poster is now advocating for the abortion of "genetic" atheists, and since the poster has argued that abortion is murder, the surely by his own logic he is advocating for murder of atheists?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:56 am
by Guy
No no no no. Questioning whether someone, based on their faith, has a mental disorder is clearly trolling. "Believing in the Jewish God must be a mental disorder, since 98% [EDIT: meant 99.8%] of the world does not believe in Her."

Fix this, mods.

EDIT: Second opinion, please?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:59 am
by MERIZoC
Archbishop Cranmer wrote:
Raventsvo wrote:OP why do you worship an imaginary man in the sky and paranoid schizophrenic that thought that he was his offspring??
Do you need your head checked?

From you signature;
"gay communist"


Both these posts are pretty clear baiting, and the rest of the OP's posts point towards that trend too. How exactly would insinuating that a large population of people are mentally unstable not be baiting or trolling?

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:58 pm
by Kryozerkia
Guy wrote:No no no no. Questioning whether someone, based on their faith, has a mental disorder is clearly trolling. "Believing in the Jewish God must be a mental disorder, since 98% of the world does not believe in Her."

Fix this, mods.

EDIT: Second opinion, please?

Flare sent up for second opinion. For personal reasons, I can't rule objectively in this case.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:10 pm
by Esternial
Archbishop Cranmer wrote:
Talkistan wrote:Organized religion, like political ideorgasm and sportsfanship, is Neurosorcery. Parents should be screened for these before being granted a license to breed.

Stop persecuting people for their beliefs. It's very rude.

This is purely interpretation on my part and the Mod doing the...ehh...second-opinion'ing (?) should probably check the thread as well but this strikes me as a situation where the poster is purposely being hypocritical to get people to lose their shit about said hypocrisy.

Might just be because I now have a preconceived notion about the poster so take that with a grain of salt, but it seems like flamebait to me.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 2:37 pm
by Gurori
The thread looks like Flamebait with a sprinkle of Sectarianism.

Before you ask, yes I am involved.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:03 pm
by Farnhamia
Gurori wrote:The thread looks like Flamebait with a sprinkle of Sectarianism.

Before you ask, yes I am involved.

"Involved" in this context does not mean "I posted in the thread." Have you been reported for something in that thread or have you reported someone? If so, you're involved. Otherwise, keep your opinions of the thread out of report thread.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:06 pm
by Gurori
Farnhamia wrote:
Gurori wrote:The thread looks like Flamebait with a sprinkle of Sectarianism.

Before you ask, yes I am involved.

"Involved" in this context does not mean "I posted in the thread." Have you been reported for something in that thread or have you reported someone? If so, you're involved. Otherwise, keep your opinions of the thread out of report thread.


Ah, I see. Wont happen again.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:42 pm
by Gurori
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=376056&start=475

Almost the entire page looks like Troll-fest to me.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:53 pm
by Farnhamia
Gurori wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=376056&start=475

Almost the entire page looks like Troll-fest to me.

Not to me, not really.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:50 pm
by Neutraligon
Farnhamia wrote:
Gurori wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=376056&start=475

Almost the entire page looks like Troll-fest to me.

Not to me, not really.


Is this for the whole thread, because the thread itself seems like x is y trolling.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 1:11 am
by Guy
Farnhamia wrote:
Gurori wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=376056&start=475

Almost the entire page looks like Troll-fest to me.

Not to me, not really.

Is this a determination of the request for a second opinion?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:25 am
by Esternial
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=376056&start=550

Thread has unfolded in a "why don't the Mod lock this" debate so I don't see the merit in keeping it open, unless the Mods want to see how deep the rabbit hole does.

And yes, I've recently watched the Matrix.

EDIT:
Platypus Reborn wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Really? I guess I don't find it at all offensive or it's just me that I don't give a shit to begin with. Sure the whole idea of such an OP is off the wall bat shit nonsense, but offensive or trolling is one thing I don't find it either, more of a MEH, whatever dude.


Yea, I think OP is off his meds for his neurological disorder.