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Indhir 2
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Postby Indhir 2 » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:29 pm

Um you guys delete all my accounts for no reason? I understand that you made my brother perma banned (The Neo Republic) but his actions have nothing to do with me, nor do I endorse them. So I request that you unban me please.
EDIT: I know you probably get stuff like that a lot but I'm being honest, I shouldn't be punished because of his actions. We do use the same computer, which is a risk, but we can only afford one. I even use a different browser from him to try and avoid this. I left for less than 20 minutes to go and get the windows 10 update and you do this :(
My nations were Indhir, The Yunnan Federation, Vierdiece, Greater Maltese Order, Abhat and Aberanos - thats all I remember
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Kingdom of Indhir
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Postby Kingdom of Indhir » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:53 pm

JUST READ THIS, I DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG. YES I PROBABLY SHOULD'VE STUCK TO USING MY PHONE FOR NS, BUT I SHOULDNT GET PUNISHED FOR MY BROTHER'S ACTIONs
PLEASE JUST DONT DO THIS TO ME. I DID NOTHING. N O T H I N G WARRANTING A PERMANENT BAN
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Lockdownn
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Postby Lockdownn » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:56 pm

FAQ wrote:Regarding Sharing Accounts
What is "sharing accounts"?
As far as moderation is concerned, a nation account is shared if more than one person has accessed it. Whether a nation is being used by a group of players, or a nation is given permanently from Player A to Player B, both instances are shared.

Is sharing nations among multiple players allowed?
It is allowed, but moderation's stance on the act is to avoid it as an unnecessary risk.

What are the risks?
WA warnings - If you're sharing around a WA member nation while one or more people with access to it also maintain WA accounts, you run a greater risk of getting caught on the WA cheatscanner.
Warning history - If you share a nation that has a moderation warning history, you risk having that history associated with you.
Bans/DEATs/DOSes - Sharing nations around muddies the moderation trail and increases the risk of one or more players being at risk for moderation enforcement they didn't actually earn. Although moderation will do what we can to avoid this confusion, if players share nations around enough, it truly becomes almost impossible to definitively tell who has control of what.
Nation theft - Fact is, the more people have access to a nation, the less secure it is. If one person hijacks that shared account, there will be nothing moderation can do to help recover it.
Outright malice - If one person with access to shared account goes on a rulebreaking rampage, everyone with access to that account risks having disciplinary actions levied against them, as the system will have trouble telling Player A from Player B when they both login to Nation X regularly.
So why don't you ban it?
Enforcing such a ban would be impractical at best. Hence it falls under the same general umbrella of "player responsibility" as things like your password security, caution about sharing computers or using publicly accessible ones, and so on. Players can share, and will share, and thus they accept the risks that go with it.

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2nd Kingdom of Indhir
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Postby 2nd Kingdom of Indhir » Fri Jul 31, 2015 12:59 pm

Lockdownn wrote:
FAQ wrote:Regarding Sharing Accounts
What is "sharing accounts"?
As far as moderation is concerned, a nation account is shared if more than one person has accessed it. Whether a nation is being used by a group of players, or a nation is given permanently from Player A to Player B, both instances are shared.

Is sharing nations among multiple players allowed?
It is allowed, but moderation's stance on the act is to avoid it as an unnecessary risk.

What are the risks?
WA warnings - If you're sharing around a WA member nation while one or more people with access to it also maintain WA accounts, you run a greater risk of getting caught on the WA cheatscanner.
Warning history - If you share a nation that has a moderation warning history, you risk having that history associated with you.
Bans/DEATs/DOSes - Sharing nations around muddies the moderation trail and increases the risk of one or more players being at risk for moderation enforcement they didn't actually earn. Although moderation will do what we can to avoid this confusion, if players share nations around enough, it truly becomes almost impossible to definitively tell who has control of what.
Nation theft - Fact is, the more people have access to a nation, the less secure it is. If one person hijacks that shared account, there will be nothing moderation can do to help recover it.
Outright malice - If one person with access to shared account goes on a rulebreaking rampage, everyone with access to that account risks having disciplinary actions levied against them, as the system will have trouble telling Player A from Player B when they both login to Nation X regularly.
So why don't you ban it?
Enforcing such a ban would be impractical at best. Hence it falls under the same general umbrella of "player responsibility" as things like your password security, caution about sharing computers or using publicly accessible ones, and so on. Players can share, and will share, and thus they accept the risks that go with it.

We never shared the accounts, we're just on the same IP. Which is INCREDIBLY unfair on me.

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2nd Kingdom of Indhir
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MODS PLEASE

Postby 2nd Kingdom of Indhir » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:00 pm

PLEASE MODS LISTEN TO ME I DID NOTHING WRONG
MY BROTHER DID BUT I DIDNT
ITS UNFAIR TO PUNISH ME FOR HIS ACTIONS
WE'VE NEVER SHARED OUR ACCOUNTS, UNLESS HE'S USED MINE BUT I DOUBT THAT
PLEASE JUST LISTEN TO ME. I'VE ONLY EVER BEEN WARNED, WARNED ONCE AND I ADMIT THAT WHAT I DID WAS WRONG
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:03 pm

We cannot tell who is behind the keyboard at any given point in time. All we can see is nations coming from the same computer, we cannot tell the difference between a DOS user and a not-DOS user on the same computer, or whether there is a brother at all.
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Postby 3rd Kingdom of Indh » Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:08 pm

thats strange because my brother was banned from the forums, and I posted and didnt get deleted. is there a difference between DoS and forum banned players?
also i sent a ghr
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