[R] Trolling in Swedish Democrat thread

[Gauthier]

Using the racist term "chimp," something that's frequently used to imply animalistic behavior in dark-skinned individuals (i.e. "chimp out"), to describe Muslims possibly behaving uncivilized towards an LGBT pride parade set to be held in their neighborhood smacks of trolling.

I do agree that acceptance of LGBT people should be encouraged even in Sweden's muslim community (although I'm not particularly fond of comments along the line of "living in the stone age", since they make my inner anthropologist cringe).

My issue is that I doubt the sincerity of the Swedish Democrats' support for the LGBT community in this respect. To me, it seems like they are cynically using Swedish LGBT people in a ploy to further their anti-immigration rhetoric.

if the Muslims show civility in the face of ideological difference, they gain respect and be taken seriously.
It's up to them if they act like chimps.

[Geilinor]

Instances of possible baiting:

This thread has really exposed the hypocrites and those with real principles.

You, for one. You are normally heavily biased against homophobia, but the minute that it comes from a community you view as "oppressed", you justify their positions, even if their positions against homosexuals borderline on genocidal. No. Fucking. Joke.

SJWs view Muslims as being more oppressed than us queers, so it's okay for them to hold those views.

[Gauthier]

Using the racist phrase "Chimping Out" referring to possible violent backlash from Muslim refugees:

This is done with the sole intent of antagonizing Muslims, and with the suggestion that LGBT rights and Muslims cannot go together.

It's also done hoping that this will cause greater rifts between the LGBT and Muslim communities of Europe.

As a second-gen immigrant, I can't really say that I'm fond of this at all.

it will depend on the Muslims chimping out as to wether or not this will create divides between the communities.

Wait, aren't you asking the natives to change their culture to suit your feelings? The culture of the swedish LGBTQ-movement is anti-racist and intersectional, but you'd like that to change.Such a desire might get you deported...

So the Muslims HAVE to let their radicals chimp out at them?
If anything, this is a chance to let the Muslim community show itself.
Are you afraid because you think the Muslims HAVE no choice but to act like animals?

[Gauthier]

Now referring to the refugees as animals.

You are aware that this is not the first time right wingers have used this form of provocation ? And each time that indeed was exactly the response they got.
People owning property in the neighbourhoods were not amused by the damage. Nor were people living in neighbourhoods where "solidarity protests" were held - especially since most of the "protesting" seemed to boil down to "smash things" and "rob stores".

then the problem is these animals rioting, not gays existing near them.

[Gauthier]

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[Gauthier]

Essentially advocating the death of refugees by sending them back to the country they fled from, with racist innuendoes thrown in for good measure ("sand dunes" implying the refugees are Arabic when in fact they're Somali).

They can go back where they came from obviously. *nod nod*

quite literally yes.
They are refugees, which means they owe everything to their host nation. Sweden owes them nothing, the refugees and their families owe them everything.
If they can't help themselves but attack a peaceful parade that offends them, they can bug off back to their sand dunes and civil wars.

[Frisbeeteria]

("sand dunes" implying the refugees are Arabic when in fact they're Somali).

I'm just going to address this single point. Somalia has plenty of sand, and much of it is in dunes. Just because the Saharan states are primarily Arab doesn't mean they're the only ones with sand.

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That usually means that none of the mods who viewed the report thought it was particularly actionable, or particularly non-actionable. They just left it for other mods.

[Geilinor]

Flaming/baiting:

screw that noise. The hellmakes you believe this has to do with race? It's their default to violence, outrageous beliefs, and inability to assimilate.
It's culture you illiterate, race has nothing to do with this. Do you actually mean to say all Muslims must be Turks or Arabs?