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[Discussion] Should OPs have a minimum word count?

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[Discussion] Should OPs have a minimum word count?

Postby Frazers » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:08 am

I think as long as they have a question and an opinion then adding filler is unnecessary.
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Postby Tsaraine » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:11 am

I have moved your thread to the appropriate subforum, and edited the title accordingly. Your OP has not otherwise been changed.

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Postby Frazers » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:13 am

May I ask what would lead to a OP being considered to have "cut the mustard"

Is there a specific word count required? Specific grammatical constructs necessary?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:15 am

Frazers wrote:May I ask what would lead to a OP being considered to have "cut the mustard"

Is there a specific word count required? Specific grammatical constructs necessary?


viewtopic.php?p=18946099#p18946099

Does that help?

It requires:

-Discussion topic, what are you actually arguing about
-own opinion, with reasons
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Postby Idzequitch » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:17 am

I think some subjects need a lengthy introduction, while others require little explanation. As with everything on this site, it seems, it has to be judged on a case by case basis.
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Postby Frazers » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:18 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Frazers wrote:May I ask what would lead to a OP being considered to have "cut the mustard"

Is there a specific word count required? Specific grammatical constructs necessary?


viewtopic.php?p=18946099#p18946099

Does that help?

It requires:

-Discussion topic, what are you actually arguing about
-own opinion, with reasons


And if ones reasons are "just cuz"?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:21 am

Frazers wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
viewtopic.php?p=18946099#p18946099

Does that help?

It requires:

-Discussion topic, what are you actually arguing about
-own opinion, with reasons


And if ones reasons are "just cuz"?


"just because ( I can)" does not invite discussion as a reason. So it's probably not a topic that you should start debating.
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Postby Sinovet » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:39 pm

I think it also depends on the forum. If it s a Role Play OP, I think you can't really complain about length. General, perhaps you should just get to the point and move on.

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Postby Bezombia » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:41 pm

Any OP that doesn't have at least 31337 words isn't even worth reading.
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Postby Pandeeria » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:57 pm

As long as they have a point, then I think it should pass.
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Postby StellarGate » Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:53 am

And how would this be enforced? Im guessing just putting some sort of code or whatever to count your words/characters only when a person clicks the 'New Topic' button would be required along with another thing to tell you when its too short.

And then youd have to define too short. Some General threads have great discussions when the OP is just a link, a simple question and brief opinion. Ive seen threads with long detailed OPs or copy/pasted articles quickly turn to a troll fests because this is NS, you never know how the dicussion will end up unless the OP is a troll.

And you'd have to define length for each forum. Because while General, II, and GE&T and P2TM might be able to generate long posts, Moderation, Factbooks, and technical may not. Do you really want to have to write a paragraph on how this one person used a slur and posted a bad link?

And what if people use hidden fillers to get around the count? Guess mods would have to warn them.mwhat about copy.pasting and article does that not count?

Seems like too much effort. While I love to see detailed OPs for II and reading a nicely thought out OP in general is cool it just doesn't strike me as a good way to foster discussion.

Also i must point out that your OP is very short. I would of expected you to at least demonstate what you'd like by doing a long, non filler filled RP explaining why this is nessesary.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Wed Nov 26, 2014 6:00 am

No. I can (and have) made threads stating the question and my opinion in like 3 sentences. It was greeted by a bunch of comments complaining about hurp durp where's the OP. That's the community's problem, not yours.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:23 pm

Hemingway could probably write a two-line OP that would have people lined up to respond. Dostoyevsky might need six -reserved- posts to make the same point. There is no need or desire for a mechanical "word count" OP limitation. Let's leave it up to mod (and player) judgment, just like we've been doing for years now.


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