Can I get a mod ruling?

[A mean old man]

Is this safe to submit?

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=31011

[Kryozerkia]

You're making a proposal to condemn your own region? Really...? We'll review it, but it's doubtful it'll go far.

[A mean old man]

Didn't stop Unibot from liberating his region in the name of symbolic value.

EDIT: Technically it wasn't founded by Unibot, but you get my point.

[Sedgistan]

Ard did kind of say that things like this were OK.

All the same, I think it would be simpler/you'd have more luck getting it to a vote as a C&C in the style Mad Sheep Railgun has been using for his joke proposals: create a nation or region named for the topic you want to discuss, then condemn it.

That's such an easy way of politicking I'm surprised it hasn't yet been used for serious purposes. I checked with the admins, and the creation of one-day (or short-term) use nations apparently doesn't clog up the servers or do anything dire. (It's also a fine old UN/WA/GA tradition, though for different purposes.) In this case, you've already got a region, as Topid volunteered.

[A mean old man]

So... can I get a mod ruling?

[Ardchoille]

Sorry, A Mean Old Man, I thought I'd commented on this, but I was remembering Condemn The Holocaust, a proposal that employed a similar technique.

"Condemn The Holocaust" didn't actually present any evidence of wrongdoing in NationStates on the part of the region known as The Holocaust. It condemned the concept of a genocidal Holocaust. If the writer had RPd the region performing genocide, then said in the Condemnation what awful things the region had done, and used the "concept" material as support for the condemnation, there'd have been no quarrel with it from a technical point of view.

Same problem with yours, as it stands. Except that you can't go out and write deliberately bad proposals, because that would get you modstomped.

That region's WFE seems to be rather against bad proposals. Now, if there were solid evidence that the region is, in fact, in favour of, and promotes the writing of, bad proposals, and if you referred to that evidence in your proposal, you might have what you need to, um, Condemn Shitty Proposal Writing.

Remembering,too, that titles are supposed to be PG-11 ... Teachers use proposals as a basis for lessons. "Crappy" might be more discreet.