I have recently submitted this issue to GHR, to a response that ignored the substance of the report. I am moving it here for all to see, and hopefully for a response more appropriate to the report.
This thread (
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=304411) celebrates the absolute destruction of 3 years of RMB work, their regional factbook, and their regional flag, mocking a defenseless region over how easy it was to destroy all that work.
The OSRS definition of Griefing is:
"Harassment/Griefing: Harassing/griefing a nation or region because of their words or actions is forbidden regardless - in telegrams, Regional Messageboard (RMB) posts, and on the forums. Save abusive telegrams so that moderators can examine them. Use the Additional Information checkboxes on the Getting Help Page to report abusive RMB posts. Report abusive forum posts in the Moderation forum.
The aggressors have harassed and griefed the entirety of the RMB, through suppressing and trolling the last few posts, and have harassed and mocked the natives on the forums through their gloating recap.
This ignores the traditional definition of griefing, which they fill to a T.
Furthermore, it is by definition flamebait and trolling
OSRS on Flamebaiting/Trolling
Flamebaiting: Posts that are made with the aim of angering someone indirectly. Not outright flame, but still liable to bring angry replies. Flame baiting is a far more subtle and covert action; it is an underhanded tactic that is designed to provoke a response from another player. It's in the same context of trolling but with flamebaiting it's just the one person.
Trolling/Baiting/Gloating: Trolling is defined as posts that are made with the aim of angering people. (like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). Someone disagreeing with you does not equate to trolling. Intent is incredibly important and will be judged by the moderators to the best of their abilities. Honest belief does not excuse trolling. Disagreements are expected and conducting yourself in a civil manner is ideal. Trollbaiting is the action of making posts that attract trolls. A prime example of trollbaiting would be gloating over the results of an election.
Gloating over punishments handed out to other players is not acceptable. Another form of the offense, IGNORE gloating, is typically seen in the roleplay forums, though it can appear elsewhere. Politely informing another nation that you are henceforth using the "ignore" feature is acceptable, but repeating it in different threads or over long periods is considered gloating and will be dealt with appropriately. Other cases will be considered on an ad hoc basis.
As noted on the open letter from the mentors' thread (
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=303132) page 86, it has obviously been inflammatory to the RPers on this issue. The action of deliberately invading a defenseless RP region in a time where tension between R/D and RP are at a high is not coincidental. Evil Wolf, the leader of the raider group, has acknowledged the definition of Griefing (
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=303132&p=20913473#p20913473 - I was unable to find said definition on the FAQ, but he broke that definition too, as this shows that this raid was for enjoyment at the cost of other's work) and proceeded to launch the raid the very next day.
The OP, Dark Watch, has made the post in such a way that it is inflammatory to and gloating over a large group of people (RPers, and defenders) with his citing of "tradition" to destroy everything that region has done.
My initial response was dissatisfactory
Invading a region, suppressing posts, changing the WFE and the other acts associated with invading are not against the rules. Nor is attempting to destroy, or wishing to destroy a region.
If you wish the end the invasion, you'll have to do so in-game rather than through us.
All the above actions are griefing by the mods' definition, and the response fails to even mention the gloating and flaming in the recap post.
The report is directed at Evil Wolf for premeditated Griefing and at Dark Watch for Flamebaiting, Trolling, and Gloating.
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:01 am
