[Discussion] On the age limit

[Empire of Narnia]

then again i dont want the age lowered, i want to see at least in one forum, the age raised.
and that turns out to be me and you, and a few others, that would be fine.
(aint gonna happen i know).

It would be interesting to see how it would differ from the rest of NS if they had a 30+ forum.

Everybody would just lie about their age. No way you could enforce it without extreme and impractical measures.

[Shazbotdom]

then again i dont want the age lowered, i want to see at least in one forum, the age raised.
and that turns out to be me and you, and a few others, that would be fine.
(aint gonna happen i know).

It would be interesting to see how it would differ from the rest of NS if they had a 30+ forum.

I'll cause hell to make up for the lack of teenagers through 20 year olds.

[Torisakia]

It would be interesting to see how it would differ from the rest of NS if they had a 30+ forum.

Everybody would just lie about their age. No way you could enforce it without extreme and impractical measures.

I would say provide photo-identification. But it could be easily bypassed as some 13 year old could steal their dad's drivers license and cha-ching! They're in a 30+ forum.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Everybody would just lie about their age. No way you could enforce it without extreme and impractical measures.

I would say provide photo-identification. But it could be easily bypassed as some 13 year old could steal their dad's drivers license and cha-ching! They're in a 30+ forum.

In other words, such an age verification system wouldn't really work. At least not in NS.

In smaller communities, probably.

[Reploid Productions]

It would be interesting to see how it would differ from the rest of NS if they had a 30+ forum.

I'd put good money on there being less difference than you'd think. Age isn't going to magically make everybody be reasonable people or better debaters, especially on some of the particularly charged issues that NSG beats on repeatedly. I mean, look at politicians- that's a largely 30+ only club and seemingly just as dysfunctional (if not worse at times) than the general full age range public.

Possibly a higher incidence of drunkposting though than you'd get with a larger and more mixed age spread.

[Nazi Flower Power]

It would be interesting to see how it would differ from the rest of NS if they had a 30+ forum.

I'll cause hell to make up for the lack of teenagers through 20 year olds.

Not necessary. I am 30. No escaping National Socialism now! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Nazi Flower Power]

It would be interesting to see how it would differ from the rest of NS if they had a 30+ forum.

I'd put good money on there being less difference than you'd think. Age isn't going to magically make everybody be reasonable people or better debaters, especially on some of the particularly charged issues that NSG beats on repeatedly. I mean, look at politicians- that's a largely 30+ only club and seemingly just as dysfunctional (if not worse at times) than the general full age range public.

Possibly a higher incidence of drunkposting though than you'd get with a larger and more mixed age spread.

It really depends what issue is being discussed and what types of fallacies or ignorance you are trying to avoid. Poorly constructed arguments on gay rights or race issues are probably not an age-related problem. Unrealistic ideas about how the job market works do tend to be younger posters who haven't had much experience with it.

While there are certainly idiots of all ages, the ratio of stupidity to worthwhile posts would probably be lower in a 30+ forum. There'd still be stupidity, just proportionally less.

[Ethel mermania]

I'd put good money on there being less difference than you'd think. Age isn't going to magically make everybody be reasonable people or better debaters, especially on some of the particularly charged issues that NSG beats on repeatedly. I mean, look at politicians- that's a largely 30+ only club and seemingly just as dysfunctional (if not worse at times) than the general full age range public.

Possibly a higher incidence of drunkposting though than you'd get with a larger and more mixed age spread.

It really depends what issue is being discussed and what types of fallacies or ignorance you are trying to avoid. Poorly constructed arguments on gay rights or race issues are probably not an age-related problem. Unrealistic ideas about how the job market works do tend to be younger posters who haven't had much experience with it.

While there are certainly idiots of all ages, the ratio of stupidity to worthwhile posts would probably be lower in a 30+ forum. There'd still be stupidity, just proportionally less.

less roleplaying in the chat threads, less drama in threads in general, less completely moronic topics, more adult conversation, and i mean conversation not sex.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

less roleplaying in the chat threads, less drama in threads in general, less completely moronic topics, more adult conversation, and i mean conversation not sex.

And again ... if players would stop encouraging this sort of behavior by responding to it, overreacting to it, or playing to it as far too many do, there would be less of it.

I see longstanding, experienced, and supposedly mature players feeding the attention-needers constantly. And there's others who I've seen repeatedly complaining about problems, then turning around and acting as if they're somehow above reproach and can engage in the same behaviors with impunity. There is a lot of hypocrisy going around when it comes to who ought to be acting like what. And some of it comes down to who is 'accepted' and who is not, amongst the 'cool kids club', or what's perceived as the 'popular' sector of the various forums.

Yes, I realize we as moderators have a responsibility. And we attempt to back all that up as best we can. However, as I have repeatedly pointed out ... there are a lot more players, posting a lot faster, a good many are seen as the 'leaders' and those to look up to by a great many more, who can and do set the tone for threads, the forums, etc.

It is what you make it, believe it or not. And age is no guarantee of quality, maturity, or validity.

[Ethel mermania]

less roleplaying in the chat threads, less drama in threads in general, less completely moronic topics, more adult conversation, and i mean conversation not sex.

And again ... if players would stop encouraging this sort of behavior by responding to it, overreacting to it, or playing to it as far too many do, there would be less of it.

I see longstanding, experienced, and supposedly mature players feeding the attention-needers constantly. And there's others who I've seen repeatedly complaining about problems, then turning around and acting as if they're somehow above reproach and can engage in the same behaviors with impunity. There is a lot of hypocrisy going around when it comes to who ought to be acting like what. And some of it comes down to who is 'accepted' and who is not, amongst the 'cool kids club', or what's perceived as the 'popular' sector of the various forums.

Yes, I realize we as moderators have a responsibility. And we attempt to back all that up as best we can. However, as I have repeatedly pointed out ... there are a lot more players, posting a lot faster, a good many are seen as the 'leaders' and those to look up to by a great many more, who can and do set the tone for threads, the forums, etc.

It is what you make it, believe it or not. And age is no guarantee of quality, maturity, or validity.

i'm not bitching about moderation here. if anything i think you guys are doing a better job than you were 9 months ago. and as to setting the tone, as you know, some folks simply do not listen.

my point simply is, it would be nice to talk to adults. Discussing mid life issues, or whether the allies were wrong in the first world war, with 13 year olds is simply pointless.

i dont expect an adults only forum or thread to be created, i think it would run counter to the purpose of the site.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

No worries - sorry if that came off more 'get off my back', because that isn't what I intended. Kinda got rambling on there as a general observation of the entire thread and the folks arguing hard for this that or the other, really.

[Ethel mermania]

No worries - sorry if that came off more 'get off my back', because that isn't what I intended. Kinda got rambling on there as a general observation of the entire thread and the folks arguing hard for this that or the other, really.

np


and i am not saying that because i think you can beat me in a melee

[Nazi Flower Power]

It really depends what issue is being discussed and what types of fallacies or ignorance you are trying to avoid. Poorly constructed arguments on gay rights or race issues are probably not an age-related problem. Unrealistic ideas about how the job market works do tend to be younger posters who haven't had much experience with it.

While there are certainly idiots of all ages, the ratio of stupidity to worthwhile posts would probably be lower in a 30+ forum. There'd still be stupidity, just proportionally less.

less roleplaying in the chat threads, less drama in threads in general, less completely moronic topics, more adult conversation, and i mean conversation not sex.

There's RPing in chat threads?

I never noticed. I guess that goes to show how often I post in chat threads. I swear 90% of everything that is wrong with NS can be avoided by just not posting in F7 or TET.

[Roasaria]

My point simply is, it would be nice to talk to adults. Discussing mid life issues, or whether the allies were wrong in the first world war, with 13 year olds is simply pointless.

When I was in elementary school, I liked to talk[and still do] about imperial nations, historical politics, classic steamships, etc. My classmates thought I was weird because I seemed very intelligent to them. I was bullied now and again, but I liked myself because of what I was{am}.

[Ethel mermania]

less roleplaying in the chat threads, less drama in threads in general, less completely moronic topics, more adult conversation, and i mean conversation not sex.

There's RPing in chat threads?

I never noticed. I guess that goes to show how often I post in chat threads. I swear 90% of everything that is wrong with NS can be avoided by just not posting in F7 or TET.

but, but.... i like chat,

[Dyakovo]

There's RPing in chat threads?

I never noticed. I guess that goes to show how often I post in chat threads. I swear 90% of everything that is wrong with NS can be avoided by just not posting in F7 or TET.

but, but.... i like chat,

So get back over to TBC and chat with adults.

[Wrapper]

but, but.... i like chat,

So get back over to TBC and chat with adults.

Meh. If I found myself on a 40+ chat forum I think I'd be bored to tears. I find I have more in common with 20-somethings than people my own age.

[Dyakovo]

So get back over to TBC and chat with adults.

Meh. If I found myself on a 40+ chat forum I think I'd be bored to tears. I find I have more in common with 20-somethings than people my own age.

That's nice. I guess. Has nothing to do with what I said to Ethel…

[The Archregimancy]

So get back over to TBC and chat with adults.

Meh. If I found myself on a 40+ chat forum I think I'd be bored to tears. I find I have more in common with 20-somethings than people my own age.

But, but...

Us over 40s are constantly having witty and insightful discussion about the leading issues of the day.

We don't just sparkle, we coruscate*.

Over 40s forums are where the action's at, man.

* A word which is misused far too often, incidentally.

[Ethel mermania]

but, but.... i like chat,

So get back over to TBC and chat with adults.

it took about ten minutes to figure that out.

[Ethel mermania]

Meh. If I found myself on a 40+ chat forum I think I'd be bored to tears. I find I have more in common with 20-somethings than people my own age.

But, but...

Us over 40s are constantly having witty and insightful discussion about the leading issues of the day.

We don't just sparkle, we coruscate*.

Over 40s forums are where the action's at, man.

* A word which is misused far too often, incidentally.

if i knew what that word meant, you would be in big trouble young man.

[Wrapper]

But, but...

Us over 40s are constantly having witty and insightful discussion about the leading issues of the day.

We don't just sparkle, we coruscate*.

Over 40s forums are where the action's at, man.

* A word which is misused far too often, incidentally.

(yawns at your post) Whatever, dad. Wait... "coruscate"? Didn't I hear that word in a CocoRosie song?

[Land of Minecraft]

Is this thread still on topic? Maybe we should lock it.

[United Dependencies]

Not only is the age limit necessary, I feel that it should go up.

[Roasaria]

Not only is the age limit necessary, I feel that it should go up.

I feel you may be referring to something like the ideas previously mentioned. If this took place, a majority of the players wouldn't be allowed to join. I also cant locate anything harmful for players under an average age limit. Sure, they may reference certain "things", and other players might post inappropriate content, but other than that, I don't see any reason for age restriction.


BTW, I'm only going to speak this tongue once