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Postby Souseiseki » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:48 pm

Reploid Productions wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:double glazing bitch yolo

don't warn me

Okay. She won't.

I will.

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like seriously. do people literally just not understand the concept of "jokes", even if it's literally plastered all over the post? are you literally under the impression that in the process of discussing katganistans inner ringo i decided to taunt her with my windows and flame her? have you not absent from the internet for the past 10 years?

i'm assuming this is serious because i don't think you'd be allowed to use warn tags as a joke
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:51 pm

Given your usual borderline baiting pattern and just-this-side-of-the-line posts ... no, not buying it. Not that my opinion will mean anything to you (given your on-the-record statements concerning me) and I'm sure you'll request another opinion, but hey.

EDIT: Bitch, if you were wondering, was the operative term that leapt to my eye. I get that your attempt at humor involved the double-glazing, referring to the windows line of discussion there. Still, your response was ill-advised.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:56 pm

Maybe I'm just a humor-blind failure at Internet, but I did not see any joke "literally plastered" anywhere. I saw Person A calling Person B a 'bitch.' And I see Nathi's already delivered a second opinion. That's the danger of tapdancing routinely on the line, you run the risk of your jokes misfiring.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:05 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Given your usual borderline baiting pattern and just-this-side-of-the-line posts ... no, not buying it. Not that my opinion will mean anything to you (given your on-the-record statements concerning me) and I'm sure you'll request another opinion, but hey.


yes, it seems weird that i'd have a clean record for nearly a year and then suddenly decide hey i miss having a record i'll just flame a mod that i haven't had any contact with for months! i'll choose one that also happens to agree with me in this debate because yeah that's because just how i roll! it's almost like that makes... absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Reploid Productions wrote:Maybe I'm just a humor-blind failure at Internet, but I did not see any joke "literally plastered" anywhere. I saw Person A calling Person B a 'double glazing bitch.' And I see Nathi's already delivered a second opinion. That's the danger of tapdancing routinely on the line, you run the risk of your jokes misfiring.


well, that's a good a start. i wasn't calling her a double glazing bitch. i'm the one with the double glazing actually. it's supposed to emphasize my swag double glazing windows. i'm also interested in how you worked "yolo" into it. i have included the first google result for "bitch yolo" (see also: yolo bitch, yolo biatch) so you can understand the context of my post.

e: see also: the character of jesse pinkman

e2: and well yeah, since DLN herself mentioned it, the opinion of someone that considers me a tedious whiner is, well
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:14 am

I read it as an insult, but my sense of humor may be rather thin today.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:39 am

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I read it as an insult, but my sense of humor may be rather thin today.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:41 am

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:I read it as an insult, but my sense of humor may be rather thin today.


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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:10 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Given your usual borderline baiting pattern and just-this-side-of-the-line posts ... no, not buying it. Not that my opinion will mean anything to you (given your on-the-record statements concerning me) and I'm sure you'll request another opinion, but hey.


yes, it seems weird that i'd have a clean record for nearly a year and then suddenly decide hey i miss having a record i'll just flame a mod that i haven't had any contact with for months! i'll choose one that also happens to agree with me in this debate because yeah that's because just how i roll! it's almost like that makes... absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Reploid Productions wrote:Maybe I'm just a humor-blind failure at Internet, but I did not see any joke "literally plastered" anywhere. I saw Person A calling Person B a 'double glazing bitch.' And I see Nathi's already delivered a second opinion. That's the danger of tapdancing routinely on the line, you run the risk of your jokes misfiring.


well, that's a good a start. i wasn't calling her a double glazing bitch. i'm the one with the double glazing actually. it's supposed to emphasize my swag double glazing windows. i'm also interested in how you worked "yolo" into it. i have included the first google result for "bitch yolo" (see also: yolo bitch, yolo biatch) so you can understand the context of my post.

e: see also: the character of jesse pinkman

e2: and well yeah, since DLN herself mentioned it, the opinion of someone that considers me a tedious whiner is, well

I don't believe I've ever called you a tedious whiner. Walk on.

Your 'swag double glazing windows yolo' would have been more than adequate without the 'bitch', which is what made it offensive. 4chan level humor has rarely found a warm fuzzy place in our little black modly hearts, I'm afraid. Yes, we've been rather solid on that one, historically. Adding in 'don't warn me' looked fairly baitish, especially when directed at a moderator.

What I was referring to with your pattern of behavior is things like the following:
Baity
Baity
Baity
Baity
Baity
Baity

Aaaand it goes on. Just a few at a glance. That's what's meant by tone and tendency. Which is a damn shame, because I think the majority of your posts are not only pertinent, but pretty spot on, even if they tend to aim to annoy.

So no. It isn't 'habit of baiting mods' though you do have a history that way. Its the overall tone you tend to approach things with. Hope that clarifies.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:34 am

Hey DLN...you forgot to lock the thread. :roll:
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:57 am

Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Hey DLN...you forgot to lock the thread. :roll:

Are you serious?

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:22 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Tiger Kingdom, stop the whole "Don't spam Moderation thing". It's not helpful, it's not wanted, and ironically, it is spamming. No official warning, but consider this a heads up.

...Okay.
Would have been nice if one of you had even bothered to hint that it was unappreciated, from me or anybody else (whom I see posting the same without even finger-waggling in about half of all moderation threads) in the past few months before we jump directly into threats, but sure, I'll cut it out.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:24 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Tiger Kingdom, stop the whole "Don't spam Moderation thing". It's not helpful, it's not wanted, and ironically, it is spamming. No official warning, but consider this a heads up.

...Okay.
Would have been nice if one of you had even bothered to hint that it was unappreciated, from me or anybody else (whom I see posting the same without even finger-waggling in about half of all moderation threads) in the past few months before we jump directly into threats, but sure, I'll cut it out.

People have been told, repeatedly, that we're quite capable of letting folks know when they're out of line in Moderation. It is the forum we all tend to see the most, I'd wager, and we are constantly going through threads to make sure they've been sorted. Don't spam means don't spam. If you're not adding anything to the report, you're spamming. End of.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:01 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f wrote:Hey DLN...you forgot to lock the thread. :roll:

Are you serious?

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Yes, I was serious.

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Postby West Faristan2 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:54 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
yes, it seems weird that i'd have a clean record for nearly a year and then suddenly decide hey i miss having a record i'll just flame a mod that i haven't had any contact with for months! i'll choose one that also happens to agree with me in this debate because yeah that's because just how i roll! it's almost like that makes... absolutely no sense whatsoever.



well, that's a good a start. i wasn't calling her a double glazing bitch. i'm the one with the double glazing actually. it's supposed to emphasize my swag double glazing windows. i'm also interested in how you worked "yolo" into it. i have included the first google result for "bitch yolo" (see also: yolo bitch, yolo biatch) so you can understand the context of my post.

e: see also: the character of jesse pinkman

e2: and well yeah, since DLN herself mentioned it, the opinion of someone that considers me a tedious whiner is, well

I don't believe I've ever called you a tedious whiner. Walk on.

Your 'swag double glazing windows yolo' would have been more than adequate without the 'bitch', which is what made it offensive. 4chan level humor has rarely found a warm fuzzy place in our little black modly hearts, I'm afraid. Yes, we've been rather solid on that one, historically. Adding in 'don't warn me' looked fairly baitish, especially when directed at a moderator.

What I was referring to with your pattern of behavior is things like the following:
Baity
Baity
Baity
Baity
Baity
Baity

Aaaand it goes on. Just a few at a glance. That's what's meant by tone and tendency. Which is a damn shame, because I think the majority of your posts are not only pertinent, but pretty spot on, even if they tend to aim to annoy.

So no. It isn't 'habit of baiting mods' though you do have a history that way. Its the overall tone you tend to approach things with. Hope that clarifies.


So even though, he stated that he was being facetious and even though Kat has yet to complain about this, you continue to insist that he was flaming? You presume to know what he intended better than he?
DLN refusing to help a poster be cause he disagreed with her in another thread:


viewtopic.php?f=16&t=265690

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Postby Katganistan » Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:25 am

West Faristan2 wrote: even though Kat has yet to complain about this, you continue to insist that he was flaming? You presume to know what he intended better than he?

So even though you have no idea of what was or was not discussed re: this matter you're going to be arrogant enough to speak for me? Do not private means of airing players' grievances (that is, GHR and #themodcave) exist?

Yes, I was offended.

Young women today may accept having "bitch" or "ho" or "slut" thrown in their face and accept it as the norm. Certainly a lot of the music today encourages it. Certainly a lot of the videos that accompany that music glorify it. I don't accept that. I find it offensive. Rather than respond intemperately, or self-moderate, both of which would have been completely inappropriate, I walked away from the computer and left it for others to determine whether or not my irritation at being referred to as a bitch was warranted.

Because truly, it's simple to see that 'double glazing' refers to the window, and 'bitch' refers to the person being addressed. You can insist it wasn't meant to be offensive and perhaps it wasn't; I could insist that by referring to people as a niggers I didn't mean to be racially offensive but only use it to mean low class, but offense would still be given.

Perhaps the lesson to be learned is that one should be very, VERY sure of one's audience before using such a term.

And that uninvolved and uninformed parties are truly not welcome to speak about other people's feelings, motives, and actions as if they have absolute knowledge of the situation.

[And to make this perfectly, explicitly clear, I am speaking here as an involved party in this mess, NOT as a moderator.]
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Mon Oct 14, 2013 5:56 am

And now that the offended party has made things amply clear, I believe we're done.


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